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Post#261 » by Bleeding Green » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:59 am

Oh, I'm just assuming the season is over, but yeah if the season continues, yeah you'd have to push it back of course. But I don't believe that has been announced at all.
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Post#262 » by jmr07019 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:48 pm

I’m looking for a guy who can play defense first. That’s the only way you will get playing time. One of Brown, Kemba, Hayward can be the lead guy on the second unit.

Patrick Williams, precious Achiuwa, Vassell, Maledon, Haliburton, Ramsey, Sylla all fit the bill.
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Post#263 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:16 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:I can't imagine they'd change the draft. You can do it through teleconference in a worst-case. So you may not be able to individually work players out? Oh well, everyone is on equal footing there, so no big deal.


Given that the scouting process has been badly impacted by the pandemic, I think they'd want to postpone the draft just for reasons of practicality

And by the way -- the league can do whatever it wants, if it figures out soon enough what that is, even if it contradicts something hardcoded into the CBA. Why? Because they're obviously going to pay the players more than they technically have to, so in return they can get whatever relatively minor, harmless or fair flexibility they need to adapt to the pandemic's effects.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#264 » by Parliament10 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:51 am

The 2020 Draft is going to be pushed way back. Figure September, maybe even October.
The NBA will experiment with a Dec - June Season for 2020-21.

Not sure how they'll handle existing Deadlines, for Options, Gaurantees, Offers and so forth.
But, when the Draft does occur, I think that we should Trade away two of our 1st rounders, for Future Picks.

With our current Roster, we don't really need to fill much in this Draft.
It would be best to bank on Future Drafts.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#265 » by snowman » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:36 pm

Parliament10 wrote:The 2020 Draft is going to be pushed way back. Figure September, maybe even October.
The NBA will experiment with a Dec - June Season for 2020-21.

Not sure how they'll handle existing Deadlines, for Options, Gaurantees, Offers and so forth.
But, when the Draft does occur, I think that we should Trade away two of our 1st rounders, for Future Picks.

With our current Roster, we don't really need to fill much in this Draft.
It would be best to bank on Future Drafts.


I agree with trading some picks, but I don't think many teams are going to trade future picks in what may be a better draft for picks in this draft that may not be as good. I think we should attach our pick and the Bucks pick to a player for a player that can shoot.

I would love to see :

Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C from
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Luke Kennard from Detroit
23 year old, 6-5, 206 lb SG from Duke


or this :



Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Justin Jackson from Dallas
25 year old, 6-8, 210 lb F
Dallas 2020 2nd round pick
Dallas 2021 2nd round pick
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Post#266 » by big-shot-ROB » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:55 pm

snowman wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:The 2020 Draft is going to be pushed way back. Figure September, maybe even October.
The NBA will experiment with a Dec - June Season for 2020-21.

Not sure how they'll handle existing Deadlines, for Options, Gaurantees, Offers and so forth.
But, when the Draft does occur, I think that we should Trade away two of our 1st rounders, for Future Picks.

With our current Roster, we don't really need to fill much in this Draft.
It would be best to bank on Future Drafts.


I agree with trading some picks, but I don't think many teams are going to trade future picks in what may be a better draft for picks in this draft that may not be as good. I think we should attach our pick and the Bucks pick to a player for a player that can shoot.

I would love to see :

Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C from
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Luke Kennard from Detroit
23 year old, 6-5, 206 lb SG from Duke


or this :



Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Justin Jackson from Dallas
25 year old, 6-8, 210 lb F
Dallas 2020 2nd round pick
Dallas 2021 2nd round pick


DET doesn't even pick the phone with that first offer.
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Post#268 » by snowman » Thu Apr 2, 2020 3:38 am

big-shot-ROB wrote:
snowman wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:The 2020 Draft is going to be pushed way back. Figure September, maybe even October.
The NBA will experiment with a Dec - June Season for 2020-21.

Not sure how they'll handle existing Deadlines, for Options, Gaurantees, Offers and so forth.
But, when the Draft does occur, I think that we should Trade away two of our 1st rounders, for Future Picks.

With our current Roster, we don't really need to fill much in this Draft.
It would be best to bank on Future Drafts.


I agree with trading some picks, but I don't think many teams are going to trade future picks in what may be a better draft for picks in this draft that may not be as good. I think we should attach our pick and the Bucks pick to a player for a player that can shoot.

I would love to see :

Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C from
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Luke Kennard from Detroit
23 year old, 6-5, 206 lb SG from Duke


or this :



Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Justin Jackson from Dallas
25 year old, 6-8, 210 lb F
Dallas 2020 2nd round pick
Dallas 2021 2nd round pick


DET doesn't even pick the phone with that first offer.


ok so what about this?

Bos trades:
V. Poirier and the 2020 Bucks 1st rd pick


Dallas trades:
Justin Jackson

Why for Boston:
Boston wants one more wing to come off the bench, to go along with Tatum, Brown and Romeo Langford, as a plan B if Hayward opts out of his player option. Boston also has 3 1st round picks this coming draft and doesn't need more rookies after having 5 this past season, along with 2 more on 2 ways. Poirier is one of these rookies. Jackson would be ready for playing time faster than what they could get at 30, which is where the Bucks pick is at. Boston also needs room at the 5 to bring Tacko Fall on board.

Why for Dallas:
With Powell out for who knows how long, Poirier give them a 26 yr old 7'0 on a cheap 1 year (2.6 mil) contract, along with an additional 1st for more depth.
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Post#269 » by big-shot-ROB » Thu Apr 2, 2020 8:42 am

snowman wrote:
Spoiler:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
snowman wrote:
I agree with trading some picks, but I don't think many teams are going to trade future picks in what may be a better draft for picks in this draft that may not be as good. I think we should attach our pick and the Bucks pick to a player for a player that can shoot.

I would love to see :

Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C from
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Luke Kennard from Detroit
23 year old, 6-5, 206 lb SG from Duke


or this :



Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Justin Jackson from Dallas
25 year old, 6-8, 210 lb F
Dallas 2020 2nd round pick
Dallas 2021 2nd round pick


DET doesn't even pick the phone with that first offer.


ok so what about this?

Bos trades:
V. Poirier and the 2020 Bucks 1st rd pick


Dallas trades:
Justin Jackson

Why for Boston:
Boston wants one more wing to come off the bench, to go along with Tatum, Brown and Romeo Langford, as a plan B if Hayward opts out of his player option. Boston also has 3 1st round picks this coming draft and doesn't need more rookies after having 5 this past season, along with 2 more on 2 ways. Poirier is one of these rookies. Jackson would be ready for playing time faster than what they could get at 30, which is where the Bucks pick is at. Boston also needs room at the 5 to bring Tacko Fall on board.

Why for Dallas:
With Powell out for who knows how long, Poirier give them a 26 yr old 7'0 on a cheap 1 year (2.6 mil) contract, along with an additional 1st for more depth.


That's a better fair offer but I think it's an overpay. Poirer is more serviceable than we give him credit for. On a playoff game, I'd prefer him over Tacko every time. Something like Poirer + early 2n round pick is better, specially given JJ has only 1 year of contract after this season.
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Post#270 » by Parliament10 » Thu Apr 2, 2020 5:47 pm

What do you think it would take for the Celtics to get the Warriors pick, and taking James Wiseman with it?
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Post#271 » by snowman » Thu Apr 2, 2020 9:40 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:
snowman wrote:
Spoiler:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
DET doesn't even pick the phone with that first offer.


ok so what about this?

Bos trades:
V. Poirier and the 2020 Bucks 1st rd pick


Dallas trades:
Justin Jackson

Why for Boston:
Boston wants one more wing to come off the bench, to go along with Tatum, Brown and Romeo Langford, as a plan B if Hayward opts out of his player option. Boston also has 3 1st round picks this coming draft and doesn't need more rookies after having 5 this past season, along with 2 more on 2 ways. Poirier is one of these rookies. Jackson would be ready for playing time faster than what they could get at 30, which is where the Bucks pick is at. Boston also needs room at the 5 to bring Tacko Fall on board.

Why for Dallas:
With Powell out for who knows how long, Poirier give them a 26 yr old 7'0 on a cheap 1 year (2.6 mil) contract, along with an additional 1st for more depth.


That's a better fair offer but I think it's an overpay. Poirer is more serviceable than we give him credit for. On a playoff game, I'd prefer him over Tacko every time. Something like Poirer + early 2n round pick is better, specially given JJ has only 1 year of contract after this season.


Jackson has next season under contract and the following season has a qualifying offer. I really think he would thrive in Brad's system. I've followed him since his time as a Tar Heel, and really think he has more to offer then what he's shown.
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Post#272 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Apr 3, 2020 1:00 pm

snowman wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
snowman wrote:
I agree with trading some picks, but I don't think many teams are going to trade future picks in what may be a better draft for picks in this draft that may not be as good. I think we should attach our pick and the Bucks pick to a player for a player that can shoot.

I would love to see :

Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C from
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Luke Kennard from Detroit
23 year old, 6-5, 206 lb SG from Duke


or this :



Vincent Poirier
26 year old, 7-0, 235 lb C
Boston 2020 1st round pick
Milwaukee 2020 1st round pick

for

Justin Jackson from Dallas
25 year old, 6-8, 210 lb F
Dallas 2020 2nd round pick
Dallas 2021 2nd round pick


DET doesn't even pick the phone with that first offer.


ok so what about this?

Bos trades:
V. Poirier and the 2020 Bucks 1st rd pick


Dallas trades:
Justin Jackson

Why for Boston:
Boston wants one more wing to come off the bench, to go along with Tatum, Brown and Romeo Langford, as a plan B if Hayward opts out of his player option. Boston also has 3 1st round picks this coming draft and doesn't need more rookies after having 5 this past season, along with 2 more on 2 ways. Poirier is one of these rookies. Jackson would be ready for playing time faster than what they could get at 30, which is where the Bucks pick is at. Boston also needs room at the 5 to bring Tacko Fall on board.

Why for Dallas:
With Powell out for who knows how long, Poirier give them a 26 yr old 7'0 on a cheap 1 year (2.6 mil) contract, along with an additional 1st for more depth.


One thing to keep in mind is that we don't know what Kanter will do yet. If he opts out, I don't think we have a logjam anymore and it would make sense to keep Poirier. Justin Jackson is an okay player but this feels like a "rearrange the deck chairs" kind of move. Danny usually doesn't make moves like this. He'd go after a guy who adds something that we don't already have.
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Post#273 » by 100proof » Fri Apr 3, 2020 5:18 pm

Parliament10 wrote:What do you think it would take for the Celtics to get the Warriors pick, and taking James Wiseman with it?



I dont think you need the warriors pick to get him.

I think he is available at 4.

Warriors will go edwards.
Minny, cavs, atlanta all have their big rotaton set.

He goes no further than 5.

So the cost, imo, is hayward and a pick. I think all of minny, cavs, and atlanta cam all use hayward alot more than boston and boston can use a super athletic 7foot2 inch beast at center.
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Post#274 » by Parliament10 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 5:25 pm

100proof wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:What do you think it would take for the Celtics to get the Warriors pick, and taking James Wiseman with it?



I dont think you need the warriors pick to get him.

I think he is available at 4.

Warriors will go edwards.
Minny, cavs, atlanta all have their big rotaton set.

He goes no further than 5.

So the cost, imo, is hayward and a pick. I think all of minny, cavs, and atlanta cam all use hayward alot more than boston and boston can use a super athletic 7foot2 inch beast at center.

Yeah. That's the thing. They could end up at 5, right? Once the Lottery is done.
But, I guess Danny would wait for the Lottery, and then hone his sights a little better.

I was thinking about Hayward and a pick, being the cost.
Hayward (at the moment) has his Option Date at 4 days past the Draft. Could get tricky.
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Post#275 » by djFan71 » Fri Apr 3, 2020 7:02 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
100proof wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:What do you think it would take for the Celtics to get the Warriors pick, and taking James Wiseman with it?



I dont think you need the warriors pick to get him.

I think he is available at 4.

Warriors will go edwards.
Minny, cavs, atlanta all have their big rotaton set.

He goes no further than 5.

So the cost, imo, is hayward and a pick. I think all of minny, cavs, and atlanta cam all use hayward alot more than boston and boston can use a super athletic 7foot2 inch beast at center.

Yeah. That's the thing. They could end up at 5, right? Once the Lottery is done.
But, I guess Danny would wait for the Lottery, and then hone his sights a little better.

I was thinking about Hayward and a pick, being the cost.
Hayward (at the moment) has his Option Date at 4 days past the Draft. Could get tricky.

Pretty much have to take Wiggins back as part of that trade, and Gordon would have to opt-in first, or you can't trade him.
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Post#276 » by bucknersrevenge » Sat Apr 4, 2020 7:37 pm

100proof wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:What do you think it would take for the Celtics to get the Warriors pick, and taking James Wiseman with it?



I dont think you need the warriors pick to get him.

I think he is available at 4.

Warriors will go edwards.
Minny, cavs, atlanta all have their big rotaton set.

He goes no further than 5.

So the cost, imo, is hayward and a pick. I think all of minny, cavs, and atlanta cam all use hayward alot more than boston and boston can use a super athletic 7foot2 inch beast at center.


I think the Warriors go Toppin for sure. And what's more, reports (FWIW) say that Toppin wants GSW more than any place. Hayward is gonna be a tough trade piece because he can opt out if he doesn't like his destination. Basically, Tatum would be the only way to get Wiseman. Wanna do that?
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Post#277 » by 100proof » Sun Apr 5, 2020 3:19 am

bucknersrevenge wrote:
100proof wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:What do you think it would take for the Celtics to get the Warriors pick, and taking James Wiseman with it?



I dont think you need the warriors pick to get him.

I think he is available at 4.

Warriors will go edwards.
Minny, cavs, atlanta all have their big rotaton set.

He goes no further than 5.

So the cost, imo, is hayward and a pick. I think all of minny, cavs, and atlanta cam all use hayward alot more than boston and boston can use a super athletic 7foot2 inch beast at center.


I think the Warriors go Toppin for sure. And what's more, reports (FWIW) say that Toppin wants GSW more than any place. Hayward is gonna be a tough trade piece because he can opt out if he doesn't like his destination. Basically, Tatum would be the only way to get Wiseman. Wanna do that?



That is a big leap there

Hayward is untradable (in your opinion) so the next logical option is trading tatum, a potential superstar.

not smart, brown, kemba, langford, williams, picks, nope, tatum
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Post#278 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Apr 5, 2020 6:15 am

100proof wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
100proof wrote:

I dont think you need the warriors pick to get him.

I think he is available at 4.

Warriors will go edwards.
Minny, cavs, atlanta all have their big rotaton set.

He goes no further than 5.

So the cost, imo, is hayward and a pick. I think all of minny, cavs, and atlanta cam all use hayward alot more than boston and boston can use a super athletic 7foot2 inch beast at center.


I think the Warriors go Toppin for sure. And what's more, reports (FWIW) say that Toppin wants GSW more than any place. Hayward is gonna be a tough trade piece because he can opt out if he doesn't like his destination. Basically, Tatum would be the only way to get Wiseman. Wanna do that?



That is a big leap there

Hayward is untradable (in your opinion) so the next logical option is trading tatum, a potential superstar.

not smart, brown, kemba, langford, williams, picks, nope, tatum


I can't find a rationale for GSW to move off that lotto pick unless they're getting a lotto level talent back. Not to mention salaries have to match. I think Hayward is untradeable from a salary standpoint with Golden St unless we took Wiggins back which Brad would never do. He's untradeable from the standpoint that Brad loves him and after this season I can't see Brad giving up on him, nor Gordon wanting to go anywhere else. And because of Gordon's player option, any team trading for him is risking him exercising that option. It's not big leap at all. It barely takes baby steps to get to this.

And as for Toppin, FWIW, this is what his parents are saying:

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/04/01/parents-obi-toppin-wants-to-play-for-golden-state-warriors/

The recently crowned NCAA National player of the year who's 6-8, jumps out the gym, finishes in transition and shoots out to 3 wants GSW. With Golden State's salary crunch why would they trade low cost-controlled high-level talent for anyone not named Tatum?
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Post#279 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Apr 5, 2020 6:42 am

I think our guy is Patrick Williams. We need another Williams to add to the team so why not?

https://www.thestepien.com/2020/02/28/patrick-williams-scouting-report/

Everything in this kid's scouting report oozes what Brad loves in players. Good size. NBA ready body. Good wingspan. Can guard multiple positions. Team defender. Team guy Good IQ. Can shoot it a bit. Finishes decent. And he's young enough that you can send him up to Maine to work on his skills for all of next year.



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Post#280 » by 100proof » Sun Apr 5, 2020 1:00 pm

bucknersrevenge wrote:
100proof wrote:
bucknersrevenge wrote:
I think the Warriors go Toppin for sure. And what's more, reports (FWIW) say that Toppin wants GSW more than any place. Hayward is gonna be a tough trade piece because he can opt out if he doesn't like his destination. Basically, Tatum would be the only way to get Wiseman. Wanna do that?



That is a big leap there

Hayward is untradable (in your opinion) so the next logical option is trading tatum, a potential superstar.

not smart, brown, kemba, langford, williams, picks, nope, tatum


I can't find a rationale for GSW to move off that lotto pick unless they're getting a lotto level talent back. Not to mention salaries have to match. I think Hayward is untradeable from a salary standpoint with Golden St unless we took Wiggins back which Brad would never do. He's untradeable from the standpoint that Brad loves him and after this season I can't see Brad giving up on him, nor Gordon wanting to go anywhere else. And because of Gordon's player option, any team trading for him is risking him exercising that option. It's not big leap at all. It barely takes baby steps to get to this.

And as for Toppin, FWIW, this is what his parents are saying:

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/04/01/parents-obi-toppin-wants-to-play-for-golden-state-warriors/

The recently crowned NCAA National player of the year who's 6-8, jumps out the gym, finishes in transition and shoots out to 3 wants GSW. With Golden State's salary crunch why would they trade low cost-controlled high-level talent for anyone not named Tatum?


Its moot anyway.

I clearly stted earlier that GSW would not be taking wiseman and pick 3-5 is where he can be got

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