2020 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 -- (8PM, Wed, Nov. 18, ESPN)

[themoneyteam2]

BostonCouch actually has good draft takes at least in terms of players he likes before the draft.

The guy who thinks Dembouya would have carried the C's to the Finals this year? ROFL

What is Tillie's comp?

Doumbouya in addition to other players he was calling for before the draft. Clarke and Bazley. Bazley was the best rookie in the bubble and the playoffs, Clarke was basically Shawn Marion as a rookie. SO yeah, probably right there. Doumbouya looks like a bum to me, never got the attraction.

Easy comp is Maxi Kleber.

Yeah he did have Clarke and Bazley which is fair but I think a lot of us did.

Keep in mind he also had Bol Bol, Naz Reid, and Isiah Roby as who would've been better draft picks and claimed that if we picked any of those **** bums we'd be in the Finals lol.

[djFan71]

I see Celtics and Bolmaro in some of the mock drafts and I cringe... please Danny, avoid Bolmaro, I don't want a SG who can't shoot.

He's not that good, and he won't see many minutes if he stays in Barcelona.

Draft & Stash Poku if he's available at #30 (or Petrusev if he isn't). That's it.

That said, if the Celtics draft him I'll root for the kid to become the next Ginobili, but that's hardly happening.

I assume you watch Barcelona a lot? How is his playmaking/defense? Those are the reasons I've read to like him. The shot is definitely worrisome. In the 2nd round, gambling on him developing a shot with the playmaking and defense makes him worth a gamble, but I am hardly sold on it. Especially if the strengths aren't really that amazing.

He's good at attacking the basket, is competent at defense, but he's not a standout playmaker or a shooter. He hasn't really cracked Barcelona's rotation, he played a bit more last season when they were plagued by injuries, but he has too many players before him at the 1 and 2 spots (Heurtel, Calathes, Abrines, Higgins, Kuric...). So if you stash him, he might not see the court as much as he needs to keep developing.

Nothing against the kid, but I can't see him as a good first round pick. At #47,might gamble on him, but I'd rather gamble on better shooters.

Thanks. I read somewhere about the playmaking and he sounded like a good gamble. Without that or shooting... well. Maybe not.

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No wonder so many execs are terrible at drafting lol. In what world is Cole the 35th best player in this draft?

For Cole #35 is fair. He is vastly, vastly overrated. He's a product of hype. I hope the exec works for the Celtics. If we were to draft him at #14 it would be a waste of a pick, one of the worst at that general area of the draft ainge's ever made.

[Squigglepuffin]

Let's play a game. If the Celtics could trade the 14th pick to any of the top 7 teams in the draft, which deal would you do?

1. To Minnesota for Malik Beasley
2. To Golden State for Eric Paschall
3. To Charlotte for Miles Bridges
4. To Chicago for Wendell Carter Jr.
5. To Cleveland for Darius Garland
6. To Atlanta for Cam Reddish
7. To Detroit for Luke Kennard

For #14? None.

[Shak_Celts]

Would love Tyrell Terry but not sure about picking him at 14. If there's any way to trade 26 and 30 to move up to like 20-22 then I think that's the move to take. Terry likely won't be there

The guy is just too skinny. He's built like a twig. He's going to get abused on defense badly.

He’s grown— was 6’1 155 when he first got to Stanford. He’s apparently 6’3 174 right now. Ill take the height with a grain of salt but he’s visibly bigger in the newest images we have of him.

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Still too skinny, but hopefully the trend continues and he can add another 10-15 lbs

Not everyone has to be there day one, i like the work already! I just hope he did it because he loves the game and not just to get drafted. Our picks need to work hard like the Jays and smart!!

[Squigglepuffin]

The guy is just too skinny. He's built like a twig. He's going to get abused on defense badly.

He’s grown— was 6’1 155 when he first got to Stanford. He’s apparently 6’3 174 right now. Ill take the height with a grain of salt but he’s visibly bigger in the newest images we have of him.

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Still too skinny, but hopefully the trend continues and he can add another 10-15 lbs

Not everyone had to be there day one, i like the work already! I just hope he did it because he loves the game and not just to get drafted. Our picks need to work like the Jays and smart!!

Also concerning is imo he has a high centre of gravity, which coupled with his weight is not a good thing. He may be an intelligent player but the translation of his game to the NBA requires him to have a body capable of going against NBA level athletes, and it is just concerning that those two attributes usually mean he'd get knocked off balance pretty easily when trying to absorb any contact in the NBA.

[snowman]

I really like Tre Jones from Duke at 26 or 30. 6'2.5 / 185 lbs is a good size for a point guard. 36% 3 pt avg. 6.4 asst. 1.8 steals. Can we say Marcus Smart lite ? You know his defense is going to be there coming from Duke. I don't know, but a couple years under Kemba and Smart could bring this guy along.

[threrf23]

He’s grown— was 6’1 155 when he first got to Stanford. He’s apparently 6’3 174 right now. Ill take the height with a grain of salt but he’s visibly bigger in the newest images we have of him.

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Still too skinny, but hopefully the trend continues and he can add another 10-15 lbs

Not everyone had to be there day one, i like the work already! I just hope he did it because he loves the game and not just to get drafted. Our picks need to work like the Jays and smart!!

Also concerning is imo he has a high centre of gravity, which coupled with his weight is not a good thing. He may be an intelligent player but the translation of his game to the NBA requires him to have a body capable of going against NBA level athletes, and it is just concerning that those two attributes usually mean he'd get knocked off balance pretty easily when trying to absorb any contact in the NBA.

Terry intrigues me because I feel there are strong parallels to Steve Nash. Both were said to have the same approximate strengths and weaknesses, neither was a particularly heralded recruit. Steve Nash was listed at 6'3 195 after four years of college; Terry is now listed at 6'3 175. Freshman year stats were similar.

On one hand, if TT is the next Steve Nash, it feels like a no brainer to draft him. On the other hand, however, even if he were to develop like Steve Nash - Nash wasn't really able to establish himself as a starting PG until he turned 25 (which isn't uncommon amongst PGs). Whereas Terry just turned 20 a little more than a week ago...

So I'd completely trust Danny if he drafted the guy, but I also wouldn't expect much return for at least a few seasons; he'd be a long term investment IMO.

[Celts17Pride]

Celtics walk away with Precious Achiuwa and Tyrell Terry in this draft I will be doing cartwheels

[Squigglepuffin]

Not everyone had to be there day one, i like the work already! I just hope he did it because he loves the game and not just to get drafted. Our picks need to work like the Jays and smart!!

Also concerning is imo he has a high centre of gravity, which coupled with his weight is not a good thing. He may be an intelligent player but the translation of his game to the NBA requires him to have a body capable of going against NBA level athletes, and it is just concerning that those two attributes usually mean he'd get knocked off balance pretty easily when trying to absorb any contact in the NBA.

Terry intrigues me because I feel there are strong parallels to Steve Nash. Both were said to have the same approximate strengths and weaknesses, neither was a particularly heralded recruit. Steve Nash was listed at 6'3 195 after four years of college; Terry is now listed at 6'3 175. Freshman year stats were similar.

On one hand, if TT is the next Steve Nash, it feels like a no brainer to draft him. On the other hand, however, even if he were to develop like Steve Nash - Nash wasn't really able to establish himself as a starting PG until he turned 25 (which isn't uncommon amongst PGs). Whereas Terry just turned 20 a little more than a week ago...

So I'd completely trust Danny if he drafted the guy, but I also wouldn't expect much return for at least a few seasons; he'd be a long term investment IMO.

Nash had a much lower centre of gravity, a better A/TO ratio, was a better scorer and passer.

[threrf23]

Nash had a much lower centre of gravity, a better A/TO ratio, was a better scorer and passer.

As a freshman in college?

Not sure about center of gravity, but Tyrell Terry had the better A/TO ratio, and scored more per game and per 40 (similar efficiency).

[Parliament10]

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Best all around big prospect if he can stay healthy in my opinion. He fits the Celtics offense to a tee as well.

Killian Tillie shot 49.0% (24-49) on 'Pick and Pop 3s' over his four years at Gonzaga

Over those four years, he was a career 44.4% (106-239) 3-point shooter.

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Celtics have probably "talked to" almost every prospect in their range. But this guy is a little intriguing. Injuries are terrifying.

I would take him at 47. He fits in Brad Stevens system.

Definitely not before 47, he is ranked as prosepect #68 by nbadraft.net He doesn;t rebound or block shots so he is limited to being a spot up shooter of the bench in situations where we need just that (iE zone busting). I don't see us taking all 4 picks, but I guess we could do worse at 47. 5 rebounds per game for a 6-10 guy won't cut it. I don;t see us drafting him.

At 47, he could be a Two-Way contract for us.
We can kick the tires, that way.

[Parliament10]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/boston-celtics-team-salary/

10/15/20 — Player option on Gordon Hayward.
10/16/20 — NBA Draft.
10/17/20 — Player option on Enes Kanter.
10/17/20 — Team option on Semi Ojeleye.
10/17/20 — Qualifying offer deadlines for Jaylen Brown and Brad Wanamaker.
10/19/20-10/23/20 — NBA Moratorium.
10/21/20 — Daniel Theis’ $5 million guarantees for 2020-21.
10/31/20 — Team option on Robert Williams, Romeo Langford and Grant Williams (revised date TBD).

The Draft is now Nov. 18.
But I haven't heard any movement on these other dates?

It makes a difference, as to who we pick up, based upon who we're keeping.

[Kalela]

Tillie is awesome. It is unfortunate he can't stay healthy. I don't know where the Nuggets pick but I can see them taking him this year if they have a late first round pick.

[Homerclease]

Celtics walk away with Precious Achiuwa and Tyrell Terry in this draft I will be doing cartwheels

I’ve come around on Terry but as someone who loves the raw athlete type I still want nothing to do with Precious. Terry would be fine for me at 14, I’m starting to like Bane more and more at 26. Terry, Bane and Azibuke would be a great first round IMO

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[SmartWentCrazy]

Celtics walk away with Precious Achiuwa and Tyrell Terry in this draft I will be doing cartwheels

Precious sucks; ill be mad we blew another pick if we draft him

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Terry is growing on me. Could be a real sparkplug off the bench.

Little likeLou WIll

[Celts17Pride]

Celtics walk away with Precious Achiuwa and Tyrell Terry in this draft I will be doing cartwheels

Precious sucks; ill be mad we blew another pick if we draft him

In my opinion Celtics need a defensive big who can guard the Bam Adebayo, AD and Giannis type players. It’s a desperate need. I think Precious has the potential to be that guy.

[JHTruth]

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Thanks for doing all our pre-draft interviews Mike! Really saved us a lot of time and effort!