Bleeding Green wrote:Hal14 wrote:Anyone else think Udoka being hired could mean good news for Madar?
I mean, the only knock anyone seems to have on Madar is "oh, he isn't experienced at the NBA level, he's only 20 so might be too young...we might not want a rookie PG getting big minutes, especially with Tatum/Brown in their prime - we need to win now - let's get a veteran PG"
Well guess what team Udoka spent 7 out of his 9 NBA coaching seasons with, and 3 out of his 7 NBA playing seasons with? The Spurs. Who was their starting PG? Tony Parker. Parker was only a rookie. He was only 19. He was coming over from Europe. Tim Duncan was in his prime and wanted to win now. Yet Parker earned their starting PG job over Terry Porter and Antonio Daniels.
Udoka knows what type of player Parker was very well, he had a front row seat. So if Brad signs Madar I'm sure Udoka will give Madar a chance to earn minutes, because Udoka will probably see some similarities between Madar and Parker. And if Udoka is able to bring on Damon Stoudemire as assistant, that will only help Madar's development even more..
Not just Udoka, but he is bringing Hardy on too who was also in San Antonio when Parker was playing. You hear Udoka in the press conferences talking about he doesn't want to just go to the playoffs - he wants to win a championship. This dude wants to win. I guarantee you that either Udoka has already seen footage of Madar or he will soon and when he does he's gonna say to Stevens "why don't we sign this kid, bring him over and see what he can do? Especially since you just traded our starting PG for a couple of centers"
This seems a bit of a stretch. Parker was 25 when Udoka first played for the Spurs. You may as well say, "is this good for Payton Pritchard?" because Udoka first played with Derek Fisher in LA. A four-year college guard who was underdrafted, similar to Payton Pritchard. Are Parker and Madar even similar players?
Parker may have been 25 when Udoka joined the Spurs, but Udoka was with the Spurs a long time as a player and coach when Parker was there. No doubt Udoka is aware of what the Spurs (and what parker did) before he got there. what coach on earth (other than Popovich) is more aware of what Parker was able to do at the NBA level - for the Spurs - coming over as a 19 year old kid than Udoka? That's all I'm saying.
And IMO they are very similar players in terms of their style of play, their physique (both a little bit skinny but really tough/scrappy so it doesn't hold them back much), similar quickness, similar athleticism, the way they move on the court, the way they keep their head up all the time when they have the ball to see the whole floor so they can quickly find the open man. the way they can hit floaters in the lane, the way they can create off the dribble, always on the attack on offense, keeping pressure on the defense, similar in terms of some of the crafty, shifty dribble drive moves they make to free up their shot as well as some of the highlight reel finishes at the rim they make - even through contact, similar in terms of moving without the ball, knowing when to cut to the rim for back door layups, similar in terms of the way they run an offense, control the pace and similar in terms of knowing when to drive, when to shoot and when to pass, similar in terms of the way they handle the ball - very good handle but at times they both dribble a little high and loose - but overall Parker had a little bit better handle.
Madar is basically Parker, except Madar is 1 inch taller, a little better defender, better outside shooter. Parker is a little bit quicker - Parker is one of the quickest guards of all time. Parker is also better at being able to stop on a dime and hit the pull-up jumper - he was really freaking good at that - Madar can get there, though - it wasn't until Parker was a few years into the league until he got really freaking good at that, and Madar is only 20.