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REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0)

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What was most bad?

Celts defense in first half/overall
19
16%
Celts mistakes late
17
15%
We lost to the Sixers without Embiid
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18%
A particular player was the ass of shame
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3%
That nasty beard
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6%
Everything I'm just pissed
21
18%
Justin Jackson
4
3%
Other/Coach/Team
24
21%
 
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#261 » by keevsnick1 » Tue May 2, 2023 4:08 am

Feed Your Head wrote:In the second half, the Sixers went hard with crowding/trapping Tatum. On top of that, they very aggressively went into ball denial mode with Jaylen, both worked pretty well.

It was great execution by the Sixers, Celtics will need to figure out a way to counter it.


I don't really agree with either of these. I don't think I remember the sixer denying Jaylen the ball all that much, they didn't really have to. the c's made no effort to get him the ball. As for Tatum doubles there were a few late game, late in the shot clock, but for the most part i thought a lot of the c's woes were self-inflicted.

To some degree the c's were victims of their own early success. They played awesome team basketball in the first, and Tatum got hot in the second. Then in the third they stopped doing ALL the things that made them successful in the first place. They got overly reliant on Tatum matchup hunting, they stopped making the right pass, and they slowed WAAAAY down. It was the classic Celtics offensive collapse we've seen in fourth quarters all year, except they started it in the third quarter instead of waiting for the last 6 minutes.

Too often this team looks at their offensive success, and takes all the wrong lessons. Instead of playing the ball movement beautiful game basketball that builds them a lead they slow down, iso, and rely on tough shot making to bail them out. But they aren't good enough at it for it to work.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#262 » by JR Hawks » Tue May 2, 2023 4:10 am

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Celts17Pride wrote:People always like to blame this player or that player. Bottom line is the Celtics as a team didn't defend the whole night long, kept turning the ball over (16 turnovers) especially in crunch time and made zero defensive adjustments the whole night long until it was too late.

That's the reason why the Celtics lost. Pretty simple

And there doesn't seem to be any sign that they'll start to play any defense any time soon.


They literally can't with Al on the floor. He's a liability.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#263 » by titlebound1 » Tue May 2, 2023 4:17 am

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Bar Fight wrote:If we guard him like we did tonight? No, he won't :lol:


He was hitting pretty tough shots. We for sure need to address the match up problems on switches...But he was not just jacking up uncontested 3s. This was a big time performance...he hit a few REALLY tough ones right out of the gate. It's not going to happen again like that. It was a throwback game

This is what happens when you play drop against elite pull-up shooters. They get into a rhythm early and it's lights out from that point on. There was not a single doubt in my mind that he was gonna hit that go-ahead three.


Yeah it is for sure a major flaw. I agree that guys should be fighting over picks. Sometimes easier said than done...especially when it's PJ Tucker out there setting them.

It took a career game from Harden to squeak out a win. Not to mention some really bad performances out of a few our guys. I'm not worried.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#264 » by Triple7 » Tue May 2, 2023 4:21 am

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MagicBagley18 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
Yup, let's coach on what a guy's done "throughout the years" and ignore recent stats. :crazy: There should be no "automatic" here or "he's earned it" junk. Smart is not the same on defense this season, and he's just not good on offensive possessions in a game's final seconds.

Even with his below DPOY defense, I'd still have him out there on the defensive end. Just not on the offensive side. If the game dictates it with no stoppage that's one thing, but it's another thing when you have him out there after a Timeout, and a whole other level if the play called involves him.


I saw multiple big plays tonight…


But the end result was a loss, as was the Atlanta loss where we relied on him too heavily on final possessions.


Smart is the least of our worries. He did fine this game. Tatum is what i’m worried. He doesn’t have a go to shot other than chuxking 3’s. When he goes to the basket, i don’t have confidence of him making the shot, even if it’s a wide open layup. He holds the ball too long, even in the double, like what happened when his pass was deflected. He anticipates/expects contact and a call when he drives, instead of just trying to make the shot, and let the refs do their job.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#265 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue May 2, 2023 4:30 am

The Sixers dropped 121 in game 1 against the Nets behind unsustainably hot shooting from 3. They scored 96, 102 and 96 the rest of the series.

The Sixers dropped 119 in game 1 behind unsustainably hot shooting from 3. Hopefully their offense goes the same way it went against the Nets the rest of the series.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#266 » by TheMartian » Tue May 2, 2023 4:31 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Read on Twitter


No kidding


So did the Hawks. The funny **** is they told me it happened because ATL was 3rd in offensive rating but Philly wouldn’t because they were 14th or something.


All teams have to do is set one simple screen and the ballhandler has a clean look at a three OR he can go downhill..dude can pick. Harden literally had his best game in years and people are wondering why.


Credit to Doc Rivers here. They did their homework and knew the Cs were stubbornly playing drop coverage, so he devised a game plan accordingly.

Again, and I find myself saying this ad nauseam - your move, JOE.
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Post#267 » by MaxwellSmart » Tue May 2, 2023 4:39 am

We have the Deepest Team in the League and Mazzulla plays 7 guys---AFRAID to put in his Bench players....it's on him.
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Post#268 » by BK_2020 » Tue May 2, 2023 4:40 am

titlebound1 wrote:It took a career game from Harden to squeak out a win. Not to mention some really bad performances out of a few our guys. I'm not worried.

45 points isn't really a career game for Harden. He's scored in the 40s like 100 times in his career.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#269 » by BK_2020 » Tue May 2, 2023 4:41 am

Triple7 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
I saw multiple big plays tonight…


But the end result was a loss, as was the Atlanta loss where we relied on him too heavily on final possessions.


Smart is the least of our worries. He did fine this game. Tatum is what i’m worried. He doesn’t have a go to shot other than chuxking 3’s. When he goes to the basket, i don’t have confidence of him making the shot, even if it’s a wide open layup. He holds the ball too long, even in the double, like what happened when his pass was deflected. He anticipates/expects contact and a call when he drives, instead of just trying to make the shot, and let the refs do their job.

Yeah if Tatum keeps scoring 39 on 25 shots we gonna be back in the lottery pretty soon. He just doesn't know how to score.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#270 » by Triple7 » Tue May 2, 2023 4:52 am

I know homers will say this is just one game, and we will **** up a game, might as well early in the series. All that is BS. This loss was embarassing. No leadership in this team. No sense of urgency. No focus and discipline. They will never change.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#271 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Tue May 2, 2023 4:59 am

Feed Your Head wrote:In the second half, the Sixers went hard with crowding/trapping Tatum. On top of that, they very aggressively went into ball denial mode with Jaylen, both worked pretty well.

It was great execution by the Sixers, Celtics will need to figure out a way to counter it.

They played exceptionally well in offense all game and in defense the second half.

I need to watch the game again if I'm feeling masochistic because I feel that for the period from the first timeout of the game until the last of the first half that the Celts played their best defense of the game but Philly just hit a lot of well contested shots, despite this we went from 7 behind to 10 ahead in that period. It felt to me that they shouldn't react to those shots falling in that period and keep the defense the same but I felt we adjusted for the worse defense wise. Combine this with an offensive drop and there you have it.
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Post#272 » by lon3lytoaster » Tue May 2, 2023 5:02 am

Offer Spoelstra an ownership stake to take over this mess.
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Post#273 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue May 2, 2023 5:11 am

We need game 2. And 3. We need to do MUCH, MUCH better. I'm still worried about this team.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#274 » by TheMartian » Tue May 2, 2023 5:19 am

This team needs to be careful they don't dig themselves in too deep a hole like what the Bucks did. Everyone was so confident the Bucks will win game 5 at home and get momentum back and it ended up costing them the series.

They need to stay focused and start playing defense. It's all about effort with these players.
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Post#275 » by The Corey's » Tue May 2, 2023 5:20 am

The only thing keeping them from winning the championship is Joe.

And he's showing major signs that he's not up for the gig.
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Post#276 » by GreenBloodedC » Tue May 2, 2023 5:20 am

I'm so frustrated. It's very clear that our coach is holding us back. Sorry.
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Post#277 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue May 2, 2023 5:21 am

The Corey's wrote:The only thing keeping them from winning the championship is Joe.

And he's showing major signs that he's not up for the gig.


Bro, we said that about Brad, too. Who would you hire? Let's get Jeff Hornacek in. :lol: Keep Joe as an assistant.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#278 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue May 2, 2023 5:22 am

TheMartian wrote:This team needs to be careful they don't dig themselves in too deep a hole like what the Bucks did. Everyone was so confident the Bucks will win game 5 at home and get momentum back and it ended up costing them the series.

They need to stay focused and start playing defense. It's all about effort with these players.


We do need to come out with more intensity on defense next game. I still believe we're the better team and we match very well with the 6ers, but we need to play like it.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#279 » by The Corey's » Tue May 2, 2023 5:24 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:
The Corey's wrote:The only thing keeping them from winning the championship is Joe.

And he's showing major signs that he's not up for the gig.


Bro, we said that about Brad, too. Who would you hire? Let's get Jeff Hornacek in. :lol: Keep Joe as an assistant.



You see the game winning play he drew up? The defense on Harden game winning 3? What was said in the timeout prior to that?

What about the worst play in professional sport history on the turnover by Brogdan?

This is what the coaching has got us. A man who doesn't make adjustments and has no feel for the game.

I don't know who the answer is. Its becoming quite an undeniable truth that Joe is just one of the boys and not the leader they need.
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Post#280 » by lon3lytoaster » Tue May 2, 2023 5:45 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:
The Corey's wrote:The only thing keeping them from winning the championship is Joe.

And he's showing major signs that he's not up for the gig.


Bro, we said that about Brad, too. Who would you hire? Let's get Jeff Hornacek in. :lol: Keep Joe as an assistant.


That’s not really fair to say. It probably was time for a change maybe and I think Udoka was the perfect fit for these guys but Steven’s entire tenure was spent battling LeBron with Isaiah Thomas, recovering from Hayward breaking his leg game 1, the Irving side show and having to start Daniel Theis in a conference finals.

Joe got a ready made roster he has no idea what to do with.

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