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Post#261 » by Parliament10 » Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:54 am

Fierce1 wrote:That's one of the weakest, if not the weakest, grouping.

Cs should win all 4 games.

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Post#263 » by cl2117 » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:31 am

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Fierce1 wrote:That's one of the weakest, if not the weakest, grouping.

Cs should win all 4 games.

Yeah. We just gotta be serious this year, and go for the Championship.
Over half a Million for each play on the Winning Team. Half that for Two-Ways.

I wonder if this kind of money will eventually impact where two-way guys or even low tier FAs want to sign.

A two-way guy makes $579k. He can get another $250k by being on the winning team, which is 43% increase. Even just making the quarter final or semi's gives you an extra 5-10% on your base salary. If you're a decent two-way guy with options, maybe that helps swing things if you know one team is far more likely to phone in the tournament than the other. It's obviously not going to be the main factor for anyone, but that's a decent chunk of change you could potentially collect mid-season if you're on the right team.

Heck for a guy who lands on the end of the roster with a 15th spot like Walsh did last year that'd be an extra $500k on top of a $1.2m salary. Certainly nothing to scoff at for a fringe NBA player. Even if you're a vet making the maximum "vet min", that's $3.3m so you could add another 15% on top of that by winning. Even PP would make an extra 7% if the C's won next year.

Will be interesting to see how it impacts things as we go forward, especially if the prize pools increase significantly. Imagine if young/fringe guys were out there competing for a chance to double their salary. That'd really add some intrigue to this thing.
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Post#265 » by 165bows » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:40 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:That's one of the weakest, if not the weakest, grouping.

Cs should win all 4 games.

Yeah. We just gotta be serious this year, and go for the Championship.
Over half a Million for each play on the Winning Team. Half that for Two-Ways.

I wonder if this kind of money will eventually impact where two-way guys or even low tier FAs want to sign.

A two-way guy makes $579k. He can get another $250k by being on the winning team, which is 43% increase. Even just making the quarter final or semi's gives you an extra 5-10% on your base salary. If you're a decent two-way guy with options, maybe that helps swing things if you know one team is far more likely to phone in the tournament than the other. It's obviously not going to be the main factor for anyone, but that's a decent chunk of change you could potentially collect mid-season if you're on the right team.

Heck for a guy who lands on the end of the roster with a 15th spot like Walsh did last year that'd be an extra $500k on top of a $1.2m salary. Certainly nothing to scoff at for a fringe NBA player. Even if you're a vet making the maximum "vet min", that's $3.3m so you could add another 15% on top of that by winning. Even PP would make an extra 7% if the C's won next year.

Will be interesting to see how it impacts things as we go forward, especially if the prize pools increase significantly. Imagine if young/fringe guys were out there competing for a chance to double their salary. That'd really add some intrigue to this thing.

Iirc there is a bonus for the actual Finals as well? Can’t remember the details on that.
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Fierce1 wrote:That's one of the weakest, if not the weakest, grouping.

Cs should win all 4 games.

Yeah. We just gotta be serious this year, and go for the Championship.
Over half a Million for each play on the Winning Team. Half that for Two-Ways.


I hope the C's never win the midseason tournament so we never have to hang one of those stupid banners.
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Post#269 » by playa-hater » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:57 pm

slow death here.. what day is training camp?? Dog days of summer catching up to me already :(
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Post#270 » by Parliament10 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 3:30 pm

playa-hater wrote:slow death here.. what day is training camp?? Dog days of summer catching up to me already :(

Hang tight, Buddy.

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Sept. 24: Celtics & Nuggets media days (first day of practice can begin Sept. 25)
Sept. 30: Media days for remaining 28 NBA teams (first day of practice can begin Oct. 1)
Oct. 4 & 6: NBA Abu Dhabi Games 2024 (Celtics vs. Nuggets)
Oct. 6: NBA Canada Series (Toronto Raptors vs. Washington Wizards | Montreal)
Oct. 12-13: Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame Enshrinement Weekend (Springfield, MA)
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Post#271 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:05 pm

I think this is going to be a really interesting year to find out who are gonna be keepers off the back of the bench.

We took JD Davison in the 2nd in 2022.
Sacto took Queta in the 2nd in 2021.
Jordan Walsh in the 2nd last year.
Then this year Baylor Scheierman at 30 and Anton Watson at 54.
Plus Jaden Springer.

The top seven or eight is pretty much set but we’re gonna need rotation players coming up through the ranks given Jrue and Al’s age.

I think we will learn a lot this season about who of these guys are gonna be keepers. Typically with late first and second round picks less than 25% will have impactful NBA careers. After summer league I’m actually lower on Walsh, Davison and Scheierman, about the same on Springer and Queta, and higher on Anton Watson. So we’ll see.

And Jordan Walsh actually is not guaranteed after this season, so I really hope we see significant progress. Svi and Oshae played 1000 minutes last year so all these guys should get something of a chance and I am looking forward to see how the young guys look playing competitive NBA minutes.
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Re: Celtics 2024-25, Season Thread 

Post#273 » by Parliament10 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:25 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:I think this is going to be a really interesting year to find out who are gonna be keepers off the back of the bench.

We took JD Davison in the 2nd in 2022.
Sacto took Queta in the 2nd in 2021.
Jordan Walsh in the 2nd last year.
Then this year Baylor Scheierman at 30 and Anton Watson at 54.
Plus Jaden Springer.

The top seven or eight is pretty much set but we’re gonna need rotation players coming up through the ranks given Jrue and Al’s age.

I think we will learn a lot this season about who of these guys are gonna be keepers. Typically with late first and second round picks less than 25% will have impactful NBA careers. After summer league I’m actually lower on Walsh, Davison and Scheierman, about the same on Springer and Queta, and higher on Anton Watson. So we’ll see.

And Jordan Walsh actually is not guaranteed after this season, so I really hope we see significant progress. Svi and Oshae played 1000 minutes last year so all these guys should get something of a chance and I am looking forward to see how the young guys look playing competitive NBA minutes.

I like this setup. Plenty of opportunity to promote from within.
Tillman is the biggest question for me.
It would be great if he could pick up those 3's, like Horford did when he first came here.


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Starters: Holiday - White - Brown - Tatum - Porzingis
Rotation: Pritchard - Hauser - Walsh - Tillman - Horford
Reserves: XXXX - Springer - Scheierman - Kornet/Queta
Two-Ways: Davison - Peterson - Watson
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Post#274 » by Dogen » Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:49 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:I think this is going to be a really interesting year to find out who are gonna be keepers off the back of the bench.

We took JD Davison in the 2nd in 2022.
Sacto took Queta in the 2nd in 2021.
Jordan Walsh in the 2nd last year.
Then this year Baylor Scheierman at 30 and Anton Watson at 54.
Plus Jaden Springer.

The top seven or eight is pretty much set but we’re gonna need rotation players coming up through the ranks given Jrue and Al’s age.

I think we will learn a lot this season about who of these guys are gonna be keepers. Typically with late first and second round picks less than 25% will have impactful NBA careers. After summer league I’m actually lower on Walsh, Davison and Scheierman, about the same on Springer and Queta, and higher on Anton Watson. So we’ll see.

And Jordan Walsh actually is not guaranteed after this season, so I really hope we see significant progress. Svi and Oshae played 1000 minutes last year so all these guys should get something of a chance and I am looking forward to see how the young guys look playing competitive NBA minutes.


I expect Queta and Tillman will get some run with KP out, but out of the other guys I think Jaden Springer to be the guy that moves most firmly into the rotation. Holiday and White are going to need to be managed to some degree after playing competitively all summer. Too much is at stake for them to be worn out by next May.

Springer can be that third guy at guard. I think Pritchard will still be valuable for some point and shooting duties, but we need another strong defender in the backcourt. Jaden can handle the ball and defend, he just needs to figure out the corner three and how he can fill in as part of the best defensive backcourt in the league (frankly one of the best of all time).

It's a tall order, but I think Springer is going to turn some heads once he gets his role down.
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Post#275 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:12 pm

Yea Springer is the guy at the intersection of life, so to speak. He is either gonna step up have an Avery Bradley, Bruce Bowen, Lindsey Hunter type of impact career or he’s just not. I think this season will tell a lot. My hopes are increased, I’m higher on him than I was, and I agree Springer has a definite chance to be a good guard in that physical defensive bulldog mold.

I still wonder if he’ll outperform a couple of defensive dudes (Adem Bona, Jamal Shead) in the draft we could have had for cheaper, longer if we just kept the #41 pick, but we’ll see, overall Springer is probably the guy I’m most excited about for this season.

Because one way or another, we’re gonna find out what Jaden Springer is all about, and it’s gonna be THIS year. So let’s GO!

lol, sucks the season is like two months away, lol

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redslastlaugh wrote:I think this is going to be a really interesting year to find out who are gonna be keepers off the back of the bench.

We took JD Davison in the 2nd in 2022.
Sacto took Queta in the 2nd in 2021.
Jordan Walsh in the 2nd last year.
Then this year Baylor Scheierman at 30 and Anton Watson at 54.
Plus Jaden Springer.

The top seven or eight is pretty much set but we’re gonna need rotation players coming up through the ranks given Jrue and Al’s age.

I think we will learn a lot this season about who of these guys are gonna be keepers. Typically with late first and second round picks less than 25% will have impactful NBA careers. After summer league I’m actually lower on Walsh, Davison and Scheierman, about the same on Springer and Queta, and higher on Anton Watson. So we’ll see.

And Jordan Walsh actually is not guaranteed after this season, so I really hope we see significant progress. Svi and Oshae played 1000 minutes last year so all these guys should get something of a chance and I am looking forward to see how the young guys look playing competitive NBA minutes.


I expect Queta and Tillman will get some run with KP out, but out of the other guys I think Jaden Springer to be the guy that moves most firmly into the rotation. Holiday and White are going to need to be managed to some degree after playing competitively all summer. Too much is at stake for them to be worn out by next May.

Springer can be that third guy at guard. I think Pritchard will still be valuable for some point and shooting duties, but we need another strong defender in the backcourt. Jaden can handle the ball and defend, he just needs to figure out the corner three and how he can fill in as part of the best defensive backcourt in the league (frankly one of the best of all time).

It's a tall order, but I think Springer is going to turn some heads once he gets his role down.
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Post#276 » by Dogen » Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:37 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Yea Springer is the guy at the intersection of life, so to speak. He is either gonna step up have an Avery Bradley, Bruce Bowen, Lindsey Hunter type of impact career or he’s just not. I think this season will tell a lot. My hopes are increased, I’m higher on him than I was, and I agree Springer has a definite chance to be a good guard in that physical defensive bulldog mold.

I still wonder if he’ll outperform a couple of defensive dudes (Adem Bona, Jamal Shead) in the draft we could have had for cheaper, longer if we just kept the #41 pick, but we’ll see, overall Springer is probably the guy I’m most excited about for this season.

Because one way or another, we’re gonna find out what Jaden Springer is all about, and it’s gonna be THIS year. So let’s GO!

lol, sucks the season is like two months away, lol

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redslastlaugh wrote:I think this is going to be a really interesting year to find out who are gonna be keepers off the back of the bench.

We took JD Davison in the 2nd in 2022.
Sacto took Queta in the 2nd in 2021.
Jordan Walsh in the 2nd last year.
Then this year Baylor Scheierman at 30 and Anton Watson at 54.
Plus Jaden Springer.

The top seven or eight is pretty much set but we’re gonna need rotation players coming up through the ranks given Jrue and Al’s age.

I think we will learn a lot this season about who of these guys are gonna be keepers. Typically with late first and second round picks less than 25% will have impactful NBA careers. After summer league I’m actually lower on Walsh, Davison and Scheierman, about the same on Springer and Queta, and higher on Anton Watson. So we’ll see.

And Jordan Walsh actually is not guaranteed after this season, so I really hope we see significant progress. Svi and Oshae played 1000 minutes last year so all these guys should get something of a chance and I am looking forward to see how the young guys look playing competitive NBA minutes.


I expect Queta and Tillman will get some run with KP out, but out of the other guys I think Jaden Springer to be the guy that moves most firmly into the rotation. Holiday and White are going to need to be managed to some degree after playing competitively all summer. Too much is at stake for them to be worn out by next May.

Springer can be that third guy at guard. I think Pritchard will still be valuable for some point and shooting duties, but we need another strong defender in the backcourt. Jaden can handle the ball and defend, he just needs to figure out the corner three and how he can fill in as part of the best defensive backcourt in the league (frankly one of the best of all time).

It's a tall order, but I think Springer is going to turn some heads once he gets his role down.


I had the same sinking feeling during the draft, "OMG look at all the quality BIGS left!" But, honestly, most of these guys are not gonna make it. I had Bona ranked above Watson, for example, but after watching them both in summer league a bit, I think Brad got the guy he wanted that fits the team. Jaden just needs to be more of a Stay Ready guy, but ready now. Otherwise, yeah, it may have been better to add another developmental player and get an established vet in Springer's roster spot.

But, we don't need to worry about all that because we both understand that Springer is going to be holy terror on the league this year and everybody's gonna be like "WTF Brad, you got another steal!", and Daryl Morey can hide his head back into the stinking cesspool he crawled out of. GIFTING us Springer!!! LOLOLOLOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#280 » by Tyakack » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:56 pm

Repeating is hard so I wouldn't bet on the C's repeating. They'd need alot of luck again among other things. They do however, have as good a chance as any other team that has repeated in the past. Should be a fun season.

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