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One Love wrote:Laker fan in peace... I am not sure on Rondo's value today given the knee & locker room issues but would you consider a 1st round pick (could be a high lottery pick if Kobe can't regain some of his form) with either Nash or Lin (both expiring contracts)... You would most likely end up with two lottery picks next year to add to your young core...
On a side note, I think Smart will be a poor mans D Wade.. Good luck next year...
Slartibartfast wrote:You really think this has reached Love/Paul/Melo/Dwight status? I don't see it. Big difference between wanting to explore free agency, and buying a one-way ticket out of town like all those guys did.
One Love wrote:Laker fan in peace... I am not sure on Rondo's value today given the knee & locker room issues but would you consider a 1st round pick (could be a high lottery pick if Kobe can't regain some of his form) with either Nash or Lin (both expiring contracts)... You would most likely end up with two lottery picks next year to add to your young core...
On a side note, I think Smart will be a poor mans D Wade.. Good luck next year...
sully00 wrote: I know he has refused a contract extension, and while it was problematic at the time it could be revisited now and would be about what he is going to get in FA.
I think Rondo and the organization are likely being honest with each other. Why would you draft Marcus Smart at 6 and sign Bradley to an 8 mil a year contract if one of those guys is coming off the bench for the next 5 or 6 years because your going to max out Rondo?
Slartibartfast wrote:sully00 wrote: I know he has refused a contract extension, and while it was problematic at the time it could be revisited now and would be about what he is going to get in FA.
I think Rondo and the organization are likely being honest with each other. Why would you draft Marcus Smart at 6 and sign Bradley to an 8 mil a year contract if one of those guys is coming off the bench for the next 5 or 6 years because your going to max out Rondo?
I probably would refuse a contract extension @ $15 mil too if I saw a guy like Gortat pull down 5/$60 at age 30. Obviously the C's looking like a lottery team for the foreseeable future plays in that decision too, but I wouldn't read too much into the refusal to extend.
And I agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense to draft a back-up at #6 (or pay a back-up $8 mil per). Though that also makes the earlier Rondo for Bledsoe suggestion a non sequitur.
Smart at #6 makes the most sense as Rondo's replacement in a full rebuild or trade bait in a plus Rondo reload. From Ainge's past eagerness to trade for veteran stars and evident aversion to long-term rebuilds, I think the latter is still Plan A, with the former as a solid back-up plan.
CelticFaninLBC wrote:One Love wrote:Laker fan in peace... I am not sure on Rondo's value today given the knee & locker room issues but would you consider a 1st round pick (could be a high lottery pick if Kobe can't regain some of his form) with either Nash or Lin (both expiring contracts)... You would most likely end up with two lottery picks next year to add to your young core...
On a side note, I think Smart will be a poor mans D Wade.. Good luck next year...
Your pick belongs to PHX...
165bows wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:One Love wrote:Laker fan in peace... I am not sure on Rondo's value today given the knee & locker room issues but would you consider a 1st round pick (could be a high lottery pick if Kobe can't regain some of his form) with either Nash or Lin (both expiring contracts)... You would most likely end up with two lottery picks next year to add to your young core...
On a side note, I think Smart will be a poor mans D Wade.. Good luck next year...
Your pick belongs to PHX...
They don't have one of their own to trade until 2019. They still owe a pick to Orlando for Dwight in 2017.
They'll have some cash to spend next summer though!
CelticFaninLBC wrote:165bows wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:
Your pick belongs to PHX...
They don't have one of their own to trade until 2019. They still owe a pick to Orlando for Dwight in 2017.
They'll have some cash to spend next summer though!
They do have Houston's 2015 pick, which they could offer along with Randle...
For Rajon Rondo, little has changed. He and those around him have long held that his intention for the final two years of his contract with Boston is to play out the deal, first showing that he is healthy after returning from ACL surgery last year, then bouncing back into All-Star form this year as he heads into 2015 free agency.
165bows wrote:CelticFaninLBC wrote:165bows wrote:
They don't have one of their own to trade until 2019. They still owe a pick to Orlando for Dwight in 2017.
They'll have some cash to spend next summer though!
They do have Houston's 2015 pick, which they could offer along with Randle...
Yes true. Though that one is pretty well protected.
Does beg the question of who LA would target in FA. Kobe comes off the books in two summers from now, coinciding with Durant, so that seems obvious. Who would they want next summer though to help in that regards now that Love is likely out of play?
One Love wrote:Laker fan in peace... I am not sure on Rondo's value today given the knee & locker room issues but would you consider a 1st round pick (could be a high lottery pick if Kobe can't regain some of his form) with either Nash or Lin (both expiring contracts)... You would most likely end up with two lottery picks next year to add to your young core...
On a side note, I think Smart will be a poor mans D Wade.. Good luck next year...
sully00 wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:You really think this has reached Love/Paul/Melo/Dwight status? I don't see it. Big difference between wanting to explore free agency, and buying a one-way ticket out of town like all those guys did.
I don't think there is bad blood between Rondo and the organization I think they both understand the reality. I think that they tried really hard to land Love and if some opportunity becomes available to add a veteran star I am sure they would look at it.
My point was that the player always denies making the trade demand because it makes them look bad. Each of those guys situations were different but they all denied demanding a trade. Carmelo Anthony refused an extension, Howard just wanted to get to FA, Paul is probably the one who demanded a trade, and in the case of Kevin Love he let the team know he wasn't going to re-sign with them. Has Rondo told the team flat out he isn't coming back? I don't know. I know he has refused a contract extension, and while it was problematic at the time it could be revisited now and would be about what he is going to get in FA.
I think Rondo and the organization are likely being honest with each other. Why would you draft Marcus Smart at 6 and sign Bradley to an 8 mil a year contract if one of those guys is coming off the bench for the next 5 or 6 years because your going to max out Rondo?
baubo wrote:I'm under the impression that players' contracts disallow them to officially request trades. Which is why every trade request rumor is just that, a "rumor" and never on record. And that when a player denies asking for a trade, he's simply not being stupid enough to break his own contract and get fined by the league.
Am I wrong on this?
Tenbomber wrote:When Rondo steps up to the plate (himself) and states his intentions or if he signs an extention with the ballclub, then I will believe him....
Till then this is just so much BS.....
He needs to decide if he is on the bus or off it!
Sagev wrote:Why sign an extension? He gets more money (and years) if he signs in free agency. He wouldn't sign an extension with the team he is traded to (if he is traded).
Bad-Thoma wrote:He's repeatedly stated that he wants to be a Celtic, doesn't like change, etc. As for an extension, in his shoes why not keep his options open and see what the C's can or can't accomplish this season? All this is a non-story.