Rajon Rondo Traded To The Mavericks.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I mean to say I told you so on Rondo's trade value, but I did.

So... lemme just say that if you think "winning" a trade is more important than how a trade fits into the bigger picture, you can probably just stop reading this now, and you won't grasp any of it anyways.

Bottom line is that we are better off now than we were 24 hours ago. If you disagree, it's probably because you were delusional about what Rondo's trade value would be, what his next contract will be and whether or not it was going to be us to pay him that contract.

Ange just made the best of a bad situation, and we will be in a better spot this summer as a result, with another draft pick, a higher lottery pick, more cap room and more possibilities than we were looking at without this deal.

Take it like men. It's what had to be done.

You're just thrilled you made the right prediction on this- that doesn't mean you WERE right. This could've gone differently..

Something went down behind the scenes- possibly Rondo or his agent threatening to publicly demand a trade and announce he wouldn't re-sign in Boston. Then you are talking about losing him for nothing, or worse than nothing.

[frothbrain]

it's amazing cuban traded trash roleplayers and **** picks for his starting center and now starting pg.

[bs_and_cs]

I m on Dallas bandwagon now. So done with Cs.

Bye. We don't want you back either.

Especially when we raise Banner 18.

Hopefully all the fake fans leave now, so we can find out who the real fans are who stand by the team through thick and thin.

Lol... This team is ATLEAST 4 yrs from a title, barring a miracle... Where is the optimism for this franchise coming from? Our 'talent' is not wanted anywhere else, we have no bigs and no PG. And our GM has been drafting his fair share of busts aka JR Giddens, Fab Melo etc... Why would anyone come play here? Our cap space is worthless... And we all know how well the lottery works for us... This team is going to be unwatchable

See ya later then.

I hate pretend fans.

[Parliament10]

I just got on. I'm shocked! -- I didn't think that Danny would actually do it.

Rondo must have given him the indication that he wasn't going to sign, or not at a reasonable rate.

[Smitty731]

Also, remember that the TPE is only valuable if we actually use it. I gotta scan and see who falls in the range of 12.9 million that might be a trade target this year or next. The clock on that TPE starts as soon as the trade is official.

Might be good to start as a separate thread for tracking purposes given Ainge's track record of using those TPEs. Although if I recall correctly you can use part of the TPE for a salary below the TPE amount, correct?

That is correct. You just can't combine the TPE with a player salary, or another TPE, to take in a larger salary.

[jfs1000d]

We are 9-14 and lost a PG who avg. 8 Ppg and shot 40 percent from the floor and can't hit FTs. I like what rondo brings when he's motivated, but he is nowhere near what we thought he was. And, he's moody. I still think we can win 36 games.

[BakersDozen]

I don't know how it would work but maybe we can use that tpe to get Monroe.

[greenroom31]

Also, remember that the TPE is only valuable if we actually use it. I gotta scan and see who falls in the range of 12.9 million that might be a trade target this year or next. The clock on that TPE starts as soon as the trade is official.

Might be good to start as a separate thread for tracking purposes given Ainge's track record of using those TPEs. Although if I recall correctly you can use part of the TPE for a salary below the TPE amount, correct?

That is correct. You just can't combine the TPE with a player salary, or another TPE, to take in a larger salary.

Cool... so really it can be used for any player under $13 million. This link was a pretty helpful refresher on TPEs:

http://midlevelexceptional.com/2014/07/ ... exception/

[mbsnmisc]

Damn, we just got uglier. Without obtaining Gortat ,or Dalembert I thought that was impossible.

[Captain_Caveman]

You're just thrilled you made the right prediction on this- that doesn't mean you WERE right.

What the **** does that even mean?

[gocelts]

The blind Danny humpers are out in full force....hilarious....there is isn't a single intelligent reason to do this trade. The Dallas pick is WORTHLESS and Wright could have been had in free agency. Danny has mismanaged this to the point of extending this even longer.

Fire a Danny and give someone with a brain a fresh start now!

[greenroom31]

I don't know how it would work but maybe we can use that tpe to get Monroe.

Sure -- we would use ~$5.5 million of the $12.9 million plus draft pick(s) to get Monroe, which would leave us with a ~$7.4 million TPE and Detroit wouldn't have to take back any players or contracts.

[beb0p]

Flip Nelson, Wright, Crawder, plus Marcus Thornton for Demarcus Cousins!!

[ryaningf]

I mean to say I told you so on Rondo's trade value, but I did.

So... lemme just say that if you think "winning" a trade is more important than how a trade fits into the bigger picture, you can probably just stop reading this now, and you won't grasp any of it anyways.

Bottom line is that we are better off now than we were 24 hours ago. If you disagree, it's probably because you were delusional about what Rondo's trade value would be, what his next contract will be and whether or not it was going to be us to pay him that contract.

Ange just made the best of a bad situation, and we will be in a better spot this summer as a result, with another draft pick, a higher lottery pick, more cap room and more possibilities than we were looking at without this deal.

Take it like men. It's what had to be done.

Unless this trade helps us win the lottery (it's a lottery and thus causation is impossible to prove even if that does happen) or unless Danny drafts the next Jimmy Butler with Dallas's late first rounder, I don't see how we're better off than we were 24 hours ago. Everything is still dependent on Danny's ability to make good moves going forward and this deal may have created one or two more options but we're still waiting on Danny to make something of all those options. I understand how having more options is better than have less options, but he needs to actually make something happen. Free agency is another area where now we have "more options" but likely nothing to show for all that when it comes right down to getting names on dotted lines.

Take this as a slight on Rondo's ability if you must, but I don't think his absence helps this team tank any harder than it has been. Might even hurt the tank. Need to move Green, Thornton, Bass if you want to really steer this thing downward and it's questionable whether Danny can even make those things happen IMO.

[Smitty731]

I don't know how it would work but maybe we can use that tpe to get Monroe.

Sure -- we would use ~$5.5 million of the $12.9 million plus draft pick(s) to get Monroe, which would leave us with a ~$7.4 million TPE and Detroit wouldn't have to take back any players or contracts.

What in the world would the Celtics do with Zeller, Sullinger, Olynyk, Wright, Bass AND Monroe. None of those guys can play SF. No team, never mind a rebuilding team, needs 6 big men. Some other guys gotta start moving out before more big men come in.

[irie]

I don't know how it would work but maybe we can use that tpe to get Monroe.

Sure -- we would use ~$5.5 million of the $12.9 million plus draft pick(s) to get Monroe, which would leave us with a ~$7.4 million TPE and Detroit wouldn't have to take back any players or contracts.

Not sure why the Celtics would trade for Monroe. No bird rights, impending free agency, no defense, kind of redundant with the roster.

I like him and all, but trading for him doesn't seem like the ideal use of (a portion of) that TPE.

[BannersOnly]

I don't get the puffing out the chests from the Rondo haters. Congrats, the guy is gone. However, make no mistake, this roster was, is and will continue to be complete ****. That's just the truth.............we all got to deal with it. It was 22 years from 1986 to 2008. It's now been 7 years since our last title and it may be another decade EASY before we are sniffing another one.......maybe more. Keep thinking we are closer with guys names Zeller, Bradley, Smart and Sully, but you are kidding yourselves. We are going to suck for a LONG time.

[lon3lytoaster]

[quote="greenroom31"][quote="BakersDozen"]I don't know how it would work but maybe we can use that tpe to get Monroe.[/quote]

Sure -- we would use ~$5.5 million of the $12.9 million plus draft pick(s) to get Monroe, which would leave us with a ~$7.4 million TPE and Detroit wouldn't have to take back any players or contracts.[/quote]

Kind of hesitant without having his bird rights, but otherwise I'd be happy flipping that Dallas pick for him.

[Captain_Caveman]

I mean to say I told you so on Rondo's trade value, but I did.

So... lemme just say that if you think "winning" a trade is more important than how a trade fits into the bigger picture, you can probably just stop reading this now, and you won't grasp any of it anyways.

Bottom line is that we are better off now than we were 24 hours ago. If you disagree, it's probably because you were delusional about what Rondo's trade value would be, what his next contract will be and whether or not it was going to be us to pay him that contract.

Ange just made the best of a bad situation, and we will be in a better spot this summer as a result, with another draft pick, a higher lottery pick, more cap room and more possibilities than we were looking at without this deal.

Take it like men. It's what had to be done.

Unless this trade helps us win the lottery (it's a lottery and thus causation is impossible to prove even if that does happen) or unless Danny drafts the next Jimmy Butler with Dallas's late first rounder, I don't see how we're better off than we were 24 hours ago. Everything is still dependent on Danny's ability to make good moves going forward and this deal may have created one or two more options but we're still waiting on Danny to make something of all those options. I understand how having more options is better than have less options, but he needs to actually make something happen. Free agency is another area where now we have "more options" but likely nothing to show for all that when it comes right down to getting names on dotted lines.

Take this as a slight on Rondo's ability if you must, but I don't think his absence helps this team tank any harder than it has been. Might even hurt the tank. Need to move Green, Thornton, Bass if you want to really steer this thing downward and it's questionable whether Danny can even make those things happen IMO.

OK... but IMO we have a better lottery pick now, another 1st to deal, more cap room, a big TPE and a couple of extra role player assets to deal.

Who is going to play PG again?

[theman]

So let me get this straight. Ainge just traded the Celtics best player for JaJuan Johnson.

Why not hold out for any other future first like in 2019?

Personally I would just assume lose Rondo for nothing over the summer. I know the trade makes the team worse and improves the Celtics own pick but realisticly by how much? Two slots maybe? The Celtics are not getting a top three pick.

So what is the rebuilding plan now? I thought it was a collect assets to trade to get a star or two to pair with Rondo. Now it is to suck until some how lucking into 3 all star players in the draft?

Rondo for JaJuan Johnson.