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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#281 » by cloverleaf » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:05 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Rozier, Smart, Wanamaker

Hmmm!!

They're all Combo Guards.


Danny's favorite--combo guards!
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#282 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:59 am

From his team, would prefer in this order, Luigi Datome, Jan Vesely, and then Wanamaker.

Sign all three, great bench depth.

Remember, he isn't Adam Emmenecker. Wanamaker would be very useful, as the third point guard.
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Post#283 » by LewisnotMiller » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:05 am

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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#284 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:06 am

Wanamaker can play. Lefty slasher. He beat the Celtics almost singlehandedly in an exhibition game a few years ago. The question is whether or not Boston can come up with a more attractive package than FCS Barcelona, which can offer far more perks than an NBA team plus a much shorter season plus the attractiveness of Barcelona as a place to live.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#285 » by djFan71 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:01 am

Feel like this is a good chance to say I have no interest in bringing Larkin back. He's just not durable.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#286 » by cl2117 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:33 am

I know nothing about Wanamaker so I can't honestly have an opinion on this.

That being said, I do LOVE the fact that we are clearly putting more emphasis on trolling the Euro leagues for bench depth like Theis/Larkin and presumably draft-and-stash candidates like Yabusele. Hitting on either of those types of additions or ideally both will be HUGE in the coming years where we are going to be multiple max guys and constantly juggling the cap.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#287 » by Scoonie » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:18 am

djFan71 wrote:Feel like this is a good chance to say I have no interest in bringing Larkin back. He's just not durable.


I liked what he brought to the table this past year, but you're definitely right. He constantly had minor injuries or illnesses. Not a player that you can rely on.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#288 » by brackdan70 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:37 am

My guess would be if we don’t draft a ball handler type we sign a guy like Wanamaker
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#289 » by GWVan » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:19 pm

It's too early for this to be out there, this is a ploy to get a bigger contract in Europe or to pump up the guy to get other teams interested.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#290 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm

GWVan wrote:It's too early for this to be out there, this is a ploy to get a bigger contract in Europe or to pump up the guy to get other teams interested.

Possible, but the Theis news came out around this time last year.\

EDIT: Just checked, the news we signed Theis was on June 19, 2017 :o
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Post#291 » by Homerclease » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:23 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Wanamaker can play. Lefty slasher. He beat the Celtics almost singlehandedly in an exhibition game a few years ago. The question is whether or not Boston can come up with a more attractive package than FCS Barcelona, which can offer far more perks than an NBA team plus a much shorter season plus the attractiveness of Barcelona as a place to live.

Didn’t Larkin turn down big bucks last year to stay in Europe for another shot stateside though?
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#292 » by GWVan » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:36 pm

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GWVan wrote:It's too early for this to be out there, this is a ploy to get a bigger contract in Europe or to pump up the guy to get other teams interested.

Possible, but the Theis news came out around this time last year.\

EDIT: Just checked, the news we signed Theis was on June 19, 2017 :o


Hmmm, that surprised me, we didn't sign him until a month later. I think Larkin was a done deal before I even heard of it.

This does look like a good deal to replace Larkin. Larkin came back from Europe have an opportunity at a nice NBA payday so he will almost certainly leave the Celtics and get one, and deserve it.
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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#293 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:16 pm

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Re: Jackie Mac on Marcus Smart's RFA--"He's going for the money" 

Post#294 » by bucknersrevenge » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:18 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:The whole notion that Smart is shooting to much is an inaccurate perception. Last two seasons and the playoffs this year he is at 9.5 FGs per game in about 30 minutes. Much lower rate than All of our rotation guys, with the exception of Baynes.


It isn't inaccurate at all, he is marcus smart, not a random player, almost 10 shots per game is absurd for one of the worst shooters in the league. Even a player like tony allen that was rather better and more efficient than smart using his offensive skills never took more than 8-8.5 shots per game, except in 1 playoffs run. The same can be said about roberson. He should be as good as beverly as a shooter at least to shoot 9-10 shots per game, and he isn't.


You have to shoot the shots that you're supposed to take. Brad will chew you out if you don't. Sure he may take 2-3 "heat checks" that he shouldn't a game. So does Terry Rozier. The only difference is that Terry hits more of those. Marcus would be a fool to go into every game worrying about what his shooting % is and whether or not that should impact his decisions in the flow of a game. And anyone expecting that of ANY Brad Stevens-coached player would be a fool too.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#295 » by AzogTheDefilier » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:00 pm

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AzogTheDefilier wrote:I 2nd that motion. HARD PASS!!!!


Why?


He can't shoot and is slow when moving laterally. I'd take my chances with Keenan Evans if they can make some trades and acquire a 2nd round pick.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#296 » by cloverleaf » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:17 pm

Since when does Danny play up, from leaks to the local Celtics media, whomever he's actually interested in?

I think he's going with a combo guard feint, while looking to bag a Gobert at #27.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#297 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:51 pm

cloverleaf wrote:Since when does Danny play up, from leaks to the local Celtics media, whomever he's actually interested in?

I think he's going with a combo guard feint, while looking to bag a Gobert at #27.

David Pick had Celtics interest in Theis last year.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#298 » by Parliament10 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:06 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Wanamaker can play. Lefty slasher. He beat the Celtics almost singlehandedly in an exhibition game a few years ago. The question is whether or not Boston can come up with a more attractive package than FCS Barcelona, which can offer far more perks than an NBA team plus a much shorter season plus the attractiveness of Barcelona as a place to live.

Didn’t Larkin turn down big bucks last year to stay in Europe for another shot stateside though?

Yeah. Larkin did turn down more money. As Did Baynes, and I'm sure Theis, as well.


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GWVan wrote:It's too early for this to be out there, this is a ploy to get a bigger contract in Europe or to pump up the guy to get other teams interested.

Possible, but the Theis news came out around this time last year.\

EDIT: Just checked, the news we signed Theis was on June 19, 2017 :o


Hmmm, that surprised me, we didn't sign him until a month later. I think Larkin was a done deal before I even heard of it.

This does look like a good deal to replace Larkin. Larkin came back from Europe have an opportunity at a nice NBA payday so he will almost certainly leave the Celtics and get one, and deserve it.

Larkin may, in fact, be looking for a much deserved payday, and more playing time, and involvement.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#299 » by canman1971 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:10 pm

I used to bartend on a tugboat turned restaurant called the Wannamaker. So there's that.
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Re: Report: Celtics "Strongly Considering" signing Euroleague Star Brad Wanamaker 

Post#300 » by Homerclease » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:11 pm

Horford/Baynes/Spellman
Tatum/Morris/Theis
Hayward/Morris/Semi
Brown/Rozier/Bird
Irving/Smart/Wannamaker

Yabu traded for a second, Nader waived, Allen and said second rounder on 2 way contracts

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