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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#282 » by djFan71 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:12 pm

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/3/29/18286503/five-most-interesting-players-nba-2018-19-lebron-harden-kyrie
It bears mentioning that Irving is having an unbelievable statistical season. Dude’s averaging 23.8 points, 7.1 assists, and 5.1 rebounds per game on 49/40/87 shooting splits, good for a true shooting percentage of .592. The list of other players to hit those numbers over a full season is six iconic names long: Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, and James Harden. That’s the kind of season Kyrie’s having.

Irving has been Boston’s single biggest offensive bellwether: The Celtics average 7.2 more points per 100 possessions with him on the court than off it, scoring like the Nuggets in his minutes and the Grizzlies when he sits. He has also been one of the NBA’s most lethal late-game weapons: Only Harden, Kemba Walker, and Kawhi Leonard have scored more points in the final five minutes of games in which the score is within five points. This might be the best Irving has been, all around, during the regular season; he will likely be rewarded with an All-NBA selection.


Then, of course, it devolves into off court stuff... But, main point being: dude's playing really well.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#283 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Fri Apr 5, 2019 12:56 am

https://985thesportshub.com/2019/04/04/another-nba-executive-believes-kyrie-irving-and-kevin-durant-will-team-up-with-knicks-2019/

Not really new news I suppose but it reinforces as to what many people believe is going to happen.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#284 » by K For Three » Fri Apr 5, 2019 1:08 am

More optimistic lately.

Kyrie stay in Boston.

C's go on a tear.

LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#285 » by Jaqua92 » Fri Apr 5, 2019 1:16 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:https://985thesportshub.com/2019/04/04/another-nba-executive-believes-kyrie-irving-and-kevin-durant-will-team-up-with-knicks-2019/

Not really new news I suppose but it reinforces as to what many people believe is going to happen.
It doesn't. They know no more than we do.

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Post#286 » by Afam » Fri Apr 5, 2019 2:35 am

Wait until kyrie experiences what the playoffs is like in Boston. He is here to stay.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#287 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Apr 5, 2019 2:48 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:https://985thesportshub.com/2019/04/04/another-nba-executive-believes-kyrie-irving-and-kevin-durant-will-team-up-with-knicks-2019/

Not really new news I suppose but it reinforces as to what many people believe is going to happen.


Are these the same executives who thought PG to LAL was a lock?
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#288 » by GoGreen » Fri Apr 5, 2019 2:53 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:https://985thesportshub.com/2019/04/04/another-nba-executive-believes-kyrie-irving-and-kevin-durant-will-team-up-with-knicks-2019/

Not really new news I suppose but it reinforces as to what many people believe is going to happen.


Are these the same executives who thought PG to LAL was a lock?


Conveniently located in the last paragraph...

"While nobody in Boston wants to hear executives talk like this about a potential New York superteam developing, it's certainly worth noting that some executives remain skeptical that the Knicks can pull this off. That's partially due to the poor reputation of owner James Dolan, and because of the aforementioned cap space issues as well."

I'm not gonna worry about it. The NBA is so much of a damn soap opera sometimes.. you don't know who is leaking this ****.
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Post#290 » by exculpatory » Fri Apr 5, 2019 3:16 pm

Error.
SamIam 2010: Truth's ability to play so incredibly efficiently is so UNDERAPPRECIATED. Bballcool 2012: Amazing how great Pierce has been for so long. Continues to defy age! KG 2013: P is original Celtic. Wherever he goes, we go. This is The Truth's house.
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Post#291 » by exculpatory » Fri Apr 5, 2019 3:20 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
It reinforces what many people believe is going to happen.


You really are such a pessimistic thinker man.

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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#292 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Apr 5, 2019 3:27 pm

Kyrie was born to be a Knick,
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#293 » by Theocy » Fri Apr 5, 2019 4:05 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Kyrie was born to be a Knick,



Lebron was born to be a Knick too. The amount of crazy he would bring to that court woukd be stupendous. Instead he has to deal with lavar ball :lol:

I still firmly believe he is a lock to stay. We ar kind of diggign this hole. How many players went out to say i am signig a contract ? It’s silly to ask him to prove he isnt leaving while all he has done is prove he is staying.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#294 » by 3D Chess » Fri Apr 5, 2019 4:42 pm

djFan71 wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/3/29/18286503/five-most-interesting-players-nba-2018-19-lebron-harden-kyrie
It bears mentioning that Irving is having an unbelievable statistical season. Dude’s averaging 23.8 points, 7.1 assists, and 5.1 rebounds per game on 49/40/87 shooting splits, good for a true shooting percentage of .592. The list of other players to hit those numbers over a full season is six iconic names long: Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, and James Harden. That’s the kind of season Kyrie’s having.

Irving has been Boston’s single biggest offensive bellwether: The Celtics average 7.2 more points per 100 possessions with him on the court than off it, scoring like the Nuggets in his minutes and the Grizzlies when he sits. He has also been one of the NBA’s most lethal late-game weapons: Only Harden, Kemba Walker, and Kawhi Leonard have scored more points in the final five minutes of games in which the score is within five points. This might be the best Irving has been, all around, during the regular season; he will likely be rewarded with an All-NBA selection.


Then, of course, it devolves into off court stuff... But, main point being: dude's playing really well.

To the "this team is better without Kyrie" and even the "Kyrie needs to stop shooting early clock 3's" crowds... read and weep.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#295 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Apr 5, 2019 5:55 pm

3D Chess wrote:
djFan71 wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/3/29/18286503/five-most-interesting-players-nba-2018-19-lebron-harden-kyrie
It bears mentioning that Irving is having an unbelievable statistical season. Dude’s averaging 23.8 points, 7.1 assists, and 5.1 rebounds per game on 49/40/87 shooting splits, good for a true shooting percentage of .592. The list of other players to hit those numbers over a full season is six iconic names long: Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, and James Harden. That’s the kind of season Kyrie’s having.

Irving has been Boston’s single biggest offensive bellwether: The Celtics average 7.2 more points per 100 possessions with him on the court than off it, scoring like the Nuggets in his minutes and the Grizzlies when he sits. He has also been one of the NBA’s most lethal late-game weapons: Only Harden, Kemba Walker, and Kawhi Leonard have scored more points in the final five minutes of games in which the score is within five points. This might be the best Irving has been, all around, during the regular season; he will likely be rewarded with an All-NBA selection.


Then, of course, it devolves into off court stuff... But, main point being: dude's playing really well.

To the "this team is better without Kyrie" and even the "Kyrie needs to stop shooting early clock 3's" crowds... read and weep.


Funny how the article doesn't mention the defense when Kyrie is on the court.
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Post#296 » by sully00 » Fri Apr 5, 2019 6:16 pm

GoGreen wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:https://985thesportshub.com/2019/04/04/another-nba-executive-believes-kyrie-irving-and-kevin-durant-will-team-up-with-knicks-2019/

Not really new news I suppose but it reinforces as to what many people believe is going to happen.


Are these the same executives who thought PG to LAL was a lock?


Conveniently located in the last paragraph...

"While nobody in Boston wants to hear executives talk like this about a potential New York superteam developing, it's certainly worth noting that some executives remain skeptical that the Knicks can pull this off. That's partially due to the poor reputation of owner James Dolan, and because of the aforementioned cap space issues as well."

I'm not gonna worry about it. The NBA is so much of a damn soap opera sometimes.. you don't know who is leaking this ****.


The real issue is the inability to create a "super team." Pat Riley isn't running the Knicks. There is no Dwayne Wade on the roster. So assume Durant and Irving are committed to this thing and day one sign with the Knicks then where are they at? They are Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving and the worst roster in the NBA playing for a coach who has lost twice as many games as he has won and a front office that is universally considered the worst in the NBA. All of things that should matter when the money is even are the worst possible scenario.

The lottery and draft will play out prior to all of this but assume the Knicks overcome the 86% odds and land Zion. They still have to convince NO to trade them Davis and do it in a time frame so that they can try and fill out a roster because they will have to find 9 guys in FA to play for the minimum. I guess in the East these 3 guys and a G league roster can win half of their games if they stay healthy a thing that Davis and Irving have not been able to do and Durant is turning 31 and has never actually carried a team. OKC and GS were stacked. What is the best case scenario? They go .500 win 45 games? Now Durant is 32 and Davis is FA. They can add a FA or two at that point but they are going to have dumped their draft picks in the deal for Davis.

I know there was talk about some sort of business deal that involves Durant's friends or agent or whatever. If the Knicks were sold I would buy into this concept but what half decent business person would get involved with Dolan and MSG it always ends badly and usually for the other person the Dolans keep on keeping on.

It is hard to follow at times. What happened to Lebron this year should have been obvious to everyone except Lebron apparently. Durant being shocked at the hate he got for jumping to the Warriors was amazing maybe he is just stupid and can't connect the dots and realize that he is going to be 32 years old playing 40 mpg trying to get the 7th seed. We have covered Kyrie to no end at least with him he is young enough that he can have a long view.
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Post#297 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Fri Apr 5, 2019 6:35 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
3D Chess wrote:
djFan71 wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/3/29/18286503/five-most-interesting-players-nba-2018-19-lebron-harden-kyrie


Then, of course, it devolves into off court stuff... But, main point being: dude's playing really well.

To the "this team is better without Kyrie" and even the "Kyrie needs to stop shooting early clock 3's" crowds... read and weep.


Funny how the article doesn't mention the defense when Kyrie is on the court.


Kyrie is having the best season of his career defensively. Career high in Defensive win shares, positive score on Defensive Box plus minus, defensive boards, steals and blocks per game. While he will never be confused with Gary Payton, this year is the one year that you really can't question Kyrie on defense, because he is out there busting his tail.
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Post#298 » by truth18 » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:14 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:https://985thesportshub.com/2019/04/04/another-nba-executive-believes-kyrie-irving-and-kevin-durant-will-team-up-with-knicks-2019/

Not really new news I suppose but it reinforces as to what many people believe is going to happen.


Kyrie may leave, he may not, but the day the Knicks get no one of real importance is going to be a **** show on here and boost my forum ego into the nosebleeds even though I have no rational reason for my lack of faith in anything good happening to their franchise.

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Kyrie stay in Boston.

C's go on a tear.

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Post#299 » by CeltsfaninDC » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:31 pm

I agree with nearly everything here. The one factor that you sort of mentioned in the $$$. Aren’t the Cs able to pay Kyrie significantly more than the Knicks? Who is taking less pay to play under the circumstances you define below with a lower chance of winning anything?

sully00 wrote:
The real issue is the inability to create a "super team." Pat Riley isn't running the Knicks. There is no Dwayne Wade on the roster. So assume Durant and Irving are committed to this thing and day one sign with the Knicks then where are they at? They are Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving and the worst roster in the NBA playing for a coach who has lost twice as many games as he has won and a front office that is universally considered the worst in the NBA. All of things that should matter when the money is even are the worst possible scenario.

The lottery and draft will play out prior to all of this but assume the Knicks overcome the 86% odds and land Zion. They still have to convince NO to trade them Davis and do it in a time frame so that they can try and fill out a roster because they will have to find 9 guys in FA to play for the minimum. I guess in the East these 3 guys and a G league roster can win half of their games if they stay healthy a thing that Davis and Irving have not been able to do and Durant is turning 31 and has never actually carried a team. OKC and GS were stacked. What is the best case scenario? They go .500 win 45 games? Now Durant is 32 and Davis is FA. They can add a FA or two at that point but they are going to have dumped their draft picks in the deal for Davis.

I know there was talk about some sort of business deal that involves Durant's friends or agent or whatever. If the Knicks were sold I would buy into this concept but what half decent business person would get involved with Dolan and MSG it always ends badly and usually for the other person the Dolans keep on keeping on.

It is hard to follow at times. What happened to Lebron this year should have been obvious to everyone except Lebron apparently. Durant being shocked at the hate he got for jumping to the Warriors was amazing maybe he is just stupid and can't connect the dots and realize that he is going to be 32 years old playing 40 mpg trying to get the 7th seed. We have covered Kyrie to no end at least with him he is young enough that he can have a long view.
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Re: The Kyrie support thread - he still bleeds green 

Post#300 » by Jaqua92 » Fri Apr 5, 2019 9:33 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
3D Chess wrote:
djFan71 wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/3/29/18286503/five-most-interesting-players-nba-2018-19-lebron-harden-kyrie


Then, of course, it devolves into off court stuff... But, main point being: dude's playing really well.

To the "this team is better without Kyrie" and even the "Kyrie needs to stop shooting early clock 3's" crowds... read and weep.


Funny how the article doesn't mention the defense when Kyrie is on the court.
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