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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#281 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:28 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:He may elevate himself to the late First Round and you know who needs a Center...

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Post#282 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:14 am

Fierce1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:He may elevate himself to the late First Round and you know who needs a Center...

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Who needs a Center?

The Knicks!


You know it's the Celtics. You can't depend on either Horford or Porzingis going forward and Yang's Draft Stock is rising.
He's a bit glacial but very nifty with his moves ala Jokic and Kyle Anderson.
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Post#283 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:19 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:He may elevate himself to the late First Round and you know who needs a Center...

Read on Twitter

Who needs a Center?

The Knicks!


You know it's the Celtics. You can't depend on either Horford or Porzingis going forward and Yang's Draft Stock is rising.
He's a bit glacial but very nifty with his moves ala Jokic and Kyle Anderson.

Too early to talk about the demise of KP.

I'm not against drafting Yang, but if he's as good as you say he is, he won't last until #30.

I believe in living in the now and right now it's the Knicks who need a Center.
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Post#284 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:30 am

Fierce1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Who needs a Center?

The Knicks!


You know it's the Celtics. You can't depend on either Horford or Porzingis going forward and Yang's Draft Stock is rising.
He's a bit glacial but very nifty with his moves ala Jokic and Kyle Anderson.

Too early to talk about the demise of KP.

I'm not against drafting Yang, but if he's as good as you say he is, he won't last until #30.

I believe in living in the now and right now it's the Knicks who need a Center.


Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.
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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#285 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:42 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
You know it's the Celtics. You can't depend on either Horford or Porzingis going forward and Yang's Draft Stock is rising.
He's a bit glacial but very nifty with his moves ala Jokic and Kyle Anderson.

Too early to talk about the demise of KP.

I'm not against drafting Yang, but if he's as good as you say he is, he won't last until #30.

I believe in living in the now and right now it's the Knicks who need a Center.


Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.

What was our winning percentage with and without Porzi during the regular season last season? Improvement by rivals may have an impact (Chip high), but I don’t remember us being much worse without him.
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Post#286 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:55 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
You know it's the Celtics. You can't depend on either Horford or Porzingis going forward and Yang's Draft Stock is rising.
He's a bit glacial but very nifty with his moves ala Jokic and Kyle Anderson.

Too early to talk about the demise of KP.

I'm not against drafting Yang, but if he's as good as you say he is, he won't last until #30.

I believe in living in the now and right now it's the Knicks who need a Center.


Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.

No KP but guys like JT, Sam, PP, Tillman, and maybe some more will improve their game this coming season.

Look for JT to be more efficient.

The improved play from some of the Celtic players will offset the absence of KP.

Cs will still win 60+ games in 2025.

The team is just too good, even without KP.
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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#287 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:43 am

Fierce1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Too early to talk about the demise of KP.

I'm not against drafting Yang, but if he's as good as you say he is, he won't last until #30.

I believe in living in the now and right now it's the Knicks who need a Center.


Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.

No KP but guys like JT, Sam, PP, Tillman, and maybe some more will improve their game this coming season.

Look for JT to be more efficient.

The improved play from some of the Celtic players will offset the absence of KP.

Cs will still win 60+ games in 2025.

The team is just too good, even without KP.

I gotta Agree with that. = I think that our Team is very redundant, aka has Depth.
We're able to survive the Temporary loss of one major player. I'm not so sure about losing 2, for any great length, though.

Brad had made the Team a bit Injury Proof.
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Post#288 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:01 am

Parliament10 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.

No KP but guys like JT, Sam, PP, Tillman, and maybe some more will improve their game this coming season.

Look for JT to be more efficient.

The improved play from some of the Celtic players will offset the absence of KP.

Cs will still win 60+ games in 2025.

The team is just too good, even without KP.

I gotta Agree with that. = I think that our Team is very redundant, aka has Depth.
We're able to survive the Temporary loss of one major player. I'm not so sure about losing 2, for any great length, though.

Brad had made the Team a bit Injury Proof.

Some of the mainstream media guys, like Shaq, said the Celts had an easy path to the championship.

They're clearly downplaying the fact that the Cs were missing KP for the majority of the playoffs and KP was only healthy in the finals for 1 and a half games.

So yeah, missing 1 piece is not a big deal, but losing 2 key pieces would be a different story.
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Post#289 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:27 am

Saw some Spurs vs. China highlights.

Hansen Yang is just not 1 step slow, he's 1.5 steps slow.

He's worse than Enes Kanter on defense outside the paint.

Yang might go in the 2nd round or undrafted in 2025.
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Post#290 » by ThePigeon » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:47 pm

Saw a few SL games
Except the MEM - UTA and maybe MEM - 76ERS games, all the other were crap
A lot of guards that can't handle the ball, stupid turnovers, lackluster defense and overall stupid play (I saw more contested long 3s than JT had the last 3 seasons combined in just few games)

I just hope to see the style of play of the big club played by our SL team. Play smart, pass the ball, penetrate and pass, get open looks and play decent defense

I will be bummed if we play stupid brand of bball
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Post#291 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:55 pm

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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Too early to talk about the demise of KP.

I'm not against drafting Yang, but if he's as good as you say he is, he won't last until #30.

I believe in living in the now and right now it's the Knicks who need a Center.


Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.

What was our winning percentage with and without Porzi during the regular season last season? Improvement by rivals may have an impact (Chip high), but I don’t remember us being much worse without him.


It's a mistake to think in last season's terms: Other than Porzingis, the Celtics were very injury free - it's difficult to
depend on something like that occurring for two years in a row.The Eastern Conference is going to be much tougher this
season; no easy cake walk through it. The Celts are likely to manage the Regular Season: Finish with a worst
record but be ready to dominate during the Playoffs.
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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#292 » by Gant » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:02 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Too early to talk about the demise of KP.

I'm not against drafting Yang, but if he's as good as you say he is, he won't last until #30.

I believe in living in the now and right now it's the Knicks who need a Center.


Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.

What was our winning percentage with and without Porzi during the regular season last season? Improvement by rivals may have an impact (Chip high), but I don’t remember us being much worse without him.

The Celtics were very good with any one player out. Their record without key players this past season: 11-2 without Holiday. 7-1 without Tatum. 21-4 without Porzingis in the regular season, plus 10-2 in the playoffs. 12-0 without Brown. 6-3 without White. 13-4 without Horford.
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Post#293 » by Parliament10 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:50 pm

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Shak_Celts wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.

What was our winning percentage with and without Porzi during the regular season last season? Improvement by rivals may have an impact (Chip high), but I don’t remember us being much worse without him.

The Celtics were very good with any one player out. Their record without key players this past season: 11-2 without Holiday. 7-1 without Tatum. 21-4 without Porzingis in the regular season, plus 10-2 in the playoffs. 12-0 without Brown. 6-3 without White. 13-4 without Horford.

It helps when you have 6 Starters. And then our Guards can both play the 1-2 positions. Most of our Starters play 2 positions.
It makes the Starting Unit (essentially a 6-Man Unit) very flexible.
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Post#294 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:12 pm

I'm thinking travel day today?
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Post#295 » by Dogen » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:10 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Saw some Spurs vs. China highlights.

Hansen Yang is just not 1 step slow, he's 1.5 steps slow.

He's worse than Enes Kanter on defense outside the paint.

Yang might go in the 2nd round or undrafted in 2025.


If we're looking for a 7-foot Chinese rookie to save us if there are injuries to our bigs next year, the team is in trouble.

He's more like 1.75 steps slow :wink:

Yang and Edey both have a nice summer league game, and suddenly the age of the dinosaurs is back. I try to look at Yang's moves and superimpose them into an actual NBA playoff game, and he's probably off the court in less than 2 minutes.
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Post#296 » by Dogen » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:17 pm

ThePigeon wrote:Saw a few SL games
Except the MEM - UTA and maybe MEM - 76ERS games, all the other were crap
A lot of guards that can't handle the ball, stupid turnovers, lackluster defense and overall stupid play (I saw more contested long 3s than JT had the last 3 seasons combined in just few games)

I just hope to see the style of play of the big club played by our SL team. Play smart, pass the ball, penetrate and pass, get open looks and play decent defense

I will be bummed if we play stupid brand of bball


I've only seen a few summer league clips but likewise not impressed so far. When Celtics crank it up on Saturday I'll pay more attention.

In these early games I wonder if there is sort of an unstated (or stated) wink wink, like, "Hey, let me get mine and I'll let you get yours. We all want to be talked about as the next Steph Curry".

Then after the first week, the team coaches and GM's are paying more attention and making decisions on cuts. Suddenly the defense magically improves!
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Post#297 » by Darth Celtic » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:22 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
You know it's the Celtics. You can't depend on either Horford or Porzingis going forward and Yang's Draft Stock is rising.
He's a bit glacial but very nifty with his moves ala Jokic and Kyle Anderson.

Too early to talk about the demise of KP.

I'm not against drafting Yang, but if he's as good as you say he is, he won't last until #30.

I believe in living in the now and right now it's the Knicks who need a Center.


Who says the Celtics are drafting 30? No Porzingis until January, their record is likely to take a bit of a hit.
And with the rest of the NBA gunning for them and improvement among their rivals, it's going to be
a rougher haul this upcoming season... Now, the Celtics aren't going to be in the Lottery (Goodbye Cooper Flagg)
but somewhere from 20 - 30 is likely in the cards.

Without kp in regular season we still had best record percentage wise. Expecting not to be at least 28 is idiotic
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Re: Summer League 2024 – California (July 6-10); Utah (July 8-10); Vegas (July 12-22) 

Post#298 » by Hal14 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:24 pm

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Post#300 » by Dogen » Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:48 pm

Hal14 wrote:Jared Dudley is cooking:

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Dudley dropping some truth bombs. The point about teams building around 2 All Stars is important. These guys in SL want to show off their bag, but they ain't gonna get much chance as a 14 or 15th guy. Show your defense, learn the sets, take good passes and shots, make good reads, be there on time and bring an extra towel for waiving. The trained eyes on the bench and in the stands know what they are shopping for.

The exception is the higher draft picks. More casual fans want to see them show off their stuff, partially for bragging rights and justification of taking one player over another. That's part of the allure and fun of summer league -- all the potential on display. Doesn't mean much for regular season but it's fun for us.

For the players on the outside looking for a steady gig, heed The Dudley's words!
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