2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27)

[Homerclease]

Newest DX mock has the Celtics selecting Jaylon Tyson at 30

That's my guy!

Pritchard, Tyson, Hauser great start for a 2nd unit.

My dream draft would be:

30 - Jaylon Tyson
54 - Oso Ighodaro

Last 6’7” guy they took from Cal worked out pretty well.

[hugepatsfan]

Yeah, I'm sure they're exploring all possibilities because that's their job.

But actually pulling the trigger is a different story.

I just don't see PP getting moved for a draft pick.

I guess the way I envision it is they have their big board. They list all the prospects they like. And then they compare that to a list of guys on their team and who they'd move for. There'd obviously be zero players they'd move Tatum or Brown for. Can't imagine anyone they'd move White, Holiday or Porzingis for considering our status as a contender.

I'm sure there's a list of prospects they'd move Horford, Hauser, Pritchard, etc. for though. Realistically, I don't expect there to be much, if any overlap. My guess is that considering our status as a contender, the time it would take a rookie to get up to speed, the risk that said rookie is a dud, the strength of our role players, the intangible aspect of selling someone, etc. they'll value our in house guys more than rookies. Because even if there's a guy they like better long term they have to weight the intangible impact and the developmental timeline.

But if there were a deal out there where Pritchard could net you #18, my guess is that it starts to get close. It's conceivable to me that there'd be a guy on the board at #18 that they might prefer over Pritchard, all things considered. That's all I'm saying.

Maybe with Danny Ainge, but I don't think Brad works like that.

Too risky, even for a #18 pick.

How about this, what is your prediction?

My prediction is the Cs will trade down unless they really can't pass up on someone at #30.

I am not that knowledgeable about the draft, but my uneducated prediction is that they stay put at #30 and take... Minnesota G Cam Christie.

It's not the biggest "need" but I feel good about his projection here...

He's got the shooting thing down - a necessity for Mazzulla ball.

Good size for a guard to where he should be able to avoid being a huge liability if he works on his fundamentals and gives efforts, both of which he seems to have flashed. He'll also have to get stronger.

Doesn't seem like a pure point guard but seems like someone who can do enough of it to play next with forwards that have lots of ball handling/playmaking responsibilities like Tatum/Brown do. Kind of like how neither White nor Holiday are true "pass first" or ball handling PGs but they keep the ball moving and handle as needed.

Playing time won't be very plentiful to start, but he can can spend time in the G League getting stronger and working on his defensive game. Right now we're stocked at guard with Holiday/White starting and Pritchard off the bench. But Pritchard's size still can render him unplayable against certain iso matchups. Christie's size might make him a viable option in that sense. And there's always the possibility that one of the guards is dealt as a salary matching piece as a replacement for Porzingis or Horford down the line.

[Hal14]

Nikola Djurisic is interesting.

doesn't he have an injury concern?

I think you're thinking of the other Serbian who once played for Mega, Nikola Topic. Topic just suffered a partially torn ACL.

Djurisic is healthy - here's an in depth article on him:
https://theswishtheory.com/2024-nba-draft-articles/2024/06/scouting-report-assessing-fit-and-maximising-nikola-djurisic-in-the-nba/

TL/DR he says Djurisic is a 1st round caliber prospect. His best attribute is his driving ability. Shooting is good but needs to work on getting it more consistent (something our staff could help with..and he's only 20 yrs old so still very young..), defense is ok but could also use some work.. passing/playmaking is very good - probably his 2nd best attribute.

[Dogen]

If here was a trade where they thought trading up would be good value for the guy they'd be getting my guess is they would absolutely trade up.

Of course that's a possibility.

So what's your prediction?

What will the Celtics do in the draft?

My guess is they stay at 30 and end up taking somebody like Scheierman, Tyson or Daiet at 30, since you can never have enough wings. Its hard to know for sure because this draft feels all over the place. I bet they'd take Filipowski, Holmes or Ware if any of the three was available at 30 since those feel like their type of big, but I don't think those guys get to 30.

I'd think if one of Filipowski, Holmes or Ware is there at 30, it will be only one of them. But that's a good shot at front court help if any of those guys slips to 30.

With Scheierman, Tyson or Dadiet, it could be all three are there at 30. Which do you prefer? They are very different players, yet similar position. Scheierman or Tyson could add something next season, whereas Dadiet may be a stash overseas for a year. I like his upside though and it's very tempting at 30 to pick him for the future. There are some reports that Dadiet is linked to the Celtics.

[keevsnick1]

Of course that's a possibility.

So what's your prediction?

What will the Celtics do in the draft?

My guess is they stay at 30 and end up taking somebody like Scheierman, Tyson or Daiet at 30, since you can never have enough wings. Its hard to know for sure because this draft feels all over the place. I bet they'd take Filipowski, Holmes or Ware if any of the three was available at 30 since those feel like their type of big, but I don't think those guys get to 30.

I'd think if one of Filipowski, Holmes or Ware is there at 30, it will be only one of them, and that's a good shot at front court help.

With Scheierman, Tyson or Dadiet, it could be all three are there at 30. Which do you prefer? They are very different players, yet similar position. Scheierman or Tyson could add something next season, whereas Dadiet may be a stash overseas for a year. I like his upside though and it's very tempting at 30 to pick him for the future.

I literally have no idea where those three will go. Some mocks have all three off the board by 30, some have 2 of the three still available. I usually skew towards younger prospects who I think have more upside, so I'd go Dadiet, Tyson then Scheierman but i think each one has their selling points. Really as far as I'm concerned if you can't go with a shooting big just pick somebody 6'6-6'8, add them to Walsh, and hope one of those two works out long term.

[keevsnick1]

Newest DX mock has the Celtics selecting Jaylon Tyson at 30

That's my guy!

Pritchard, Tyson, Hauser great start for a 2nd unit.

My dream draft would be:

30 - Jaylon Tyson
54 - Oso Ighodaro

Last 6’7” guy they took from Cal worked out pretty well.

Honestly picking another "Jay" from Cal seems as good a direction as any.

[Fierce1]

Filipowski is the safe pick, in case Kornet leaves in FA.

[Hal14]

I am not that knowledgeable about the draft, but my uneducated prediction is that they stay put at #30 and take... Minnesota G Cam Christie.

It's not the biggest "need" but I feel good about his projection here...

He's got the shooting thing down - a necessity for Mazzulla ball.

Good size for a guard to where he should be able to avoid being a huge liability if he works on his fundamentals and gives efforts, both of which he seems to have flashed. He'll also have to get stronger.

Doesn't seem like a pure point guard but seems like someone who can do enough of it to play next with forwards that have lots of ball handling/playmaking responsibilities like Tatum/Brown do. Kind of like how neither White nor Holiday are true "pass first" or ball handling PGs but they keep the ball moving and handle as needed.

Playing time won't be very plentiful to start, but he can can spend time in the G League getting stronger and working on his defensive game. Right now we're stocked at guard with Holiday/White starting and Pritchard off the bench. But Pritchard's size still can render him unplayable against certain iso matchups. Christie's size might make him a viable option in that sense. And there's always the possibility that one of the guards is dealt as a salary matching piece as a replacement for Porzingis or Horford down the line.

Interesting.

Just this afternoon you seemed adamant that the right move was to draft a big.

What made you flip?

Is it because you're saying that shooting is a necessity for Mazzulla ball, but you're now thinking that the bigs who are likely to be available at 30 aren't great shooters?

As for Cam Christie, a couple of notes:

-FWIW, I consider him more of a wing than a guard. Not a very good POA defender, doesn't really handle the ball or have the type of quickness you'd want in a guard. He's a combination 2/3 type of guy..definitely not a guy who would play the 1. From a positional standpoint (and his size..and his game is somewhat familiar to him) he's kind of like Aaron Nesmith.

There actually was an interesting article I came across a few months ago about these guys who are about 6'4 - 6'6", but don't play PG..they called them "not quite wings" because often the wings who are 6'7-6'10" have a better shot at sticking in the league:
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/examining-the-small-guard-crunch

-I see Christie as more of a mid to late 2nd round guy..think he'd be a reach at 30. Mainly because while he's young..and can shoot and has decent size, he doesn't really offer enough other stuff. I just think at pick 30 I'd be looking for something more. It's nice if you can shoot but I'd be looking for more other stuff - whether it's rebounding, defense, size, athleticism, playmaking, ball handling, rim pressure, etc.

Christie's defense is not very good. He is very limited in terms of ball handling, being able to create his own shot.. can make like 1 or 2 dribbles and rise up into a pull up jumper around the elbows or from 3..that's about it, very limited "bag", cannot pressure the rim or finish at the rim. He shot 47% at the rim this season, which is absolutely horrible..6 dunks which is a very low number for a 6'6" wing (it's partly because he is not really an NBA-level athlete, imo). Doesn't really rebound or offer much playmaking.

Plus he's really skinny.

Between needing to get stronger and the fact that he's only 18..and needs work on defense. I doubt he will be ready to contribute anything in year 1. Not to mention if defenders play up on him to take away his 3 pt shot, he is very limited with what he can do off the dribble to combat that..

[Dogen]

Man, the mocks are all over the place today. This is going to be an interesting draft. Very little consensus, which means good opportunities for savvy GM's to swoop in and grab some value in the later picks.

[redslastlaugh]

Of course that's a possibility.

So what's your prediction?

What will the Celtics do in the draft?

My guess is they stay at 30 and end up taking somebody like Scheierman, Tyson or Daiet at 30, since you can never have enough wings. Its hard to know for sure because this draft feels all over the place. I bet they'd take Filipowski, Holmes or Ware if any of the three was available at 30 since those feel like their type of big, but I don't think those guys get to 30.

I'd think if one of Filipowski, Holmes or Ware is there at 30, it will be only one of them. But that's a good shot at front court help if any of those guys slips to 30.

With Scheierman, Tyson or Dadiet, it could be all three are there at 30. Which do you prefer?

Of Filipowski, Holmes & Ware, my preference is Holmes, Filipowski, Ware.

Of Scheierman, Tyson, & Dadiet, my preference is Scheierman, Tyson, Dadiet. Heavy preference for the first two but Dadiet being so young and not having to necessarily come over next year is still intriguing.

[Celts17Pride]

Man, the mocks are all over the place today. This is going to be an interesting draft. Very little consensus, which means good opportunities for savvy GM's to swoop in and grab some value in the later picks.

Draft is going to be insane tomorrow. Tons of movement.

[Shak_Celts]

Osooooooo?!

[CelticsPride18]

Jaylon Tyson should be the pick. We don’t miss with the jays

[redslastlaugh]

Givony has C’s taking Tyson at 30 in the last released mock on espn.

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Jaylon Tyson should be the pick. We don’t miss with the jays

[Dogen]

Givony has C’s taking Tyson at 30 in the last released mock on espn.

Read on Twitter

Jaylon Tyson should be the pick. We don’t miss with the jays

That same ESPN mock has the Celtics taking Jalen Bridges at 54, too. Can't miss!!!

[playa-hater]

We are getting Baylor Scheierman.. At least that's what my gut is telling me... We are not trading up or down either...

[chakdaddy]

I don't really think there's a DeAndre Jordan to pass on, thankfully. Let Utah take Giddens

[chakdaddy]

I kinda like Keshad Johnson in the 2nd rd

[Dogen]

I would love to get 2 of the following

Wings
Jaylon Tyson
Ajay Mitchell
Baylor Scheierman - Worked out for Celtics
Joihnny Furphy
Bronny James
Pacome Dadiet - Worked out for Celtics
Dillon Jones - Worked out for Celtics

Forward
Kyle Fillipowski
Bobi Klintman
Jonathan Mogbo - Worked out for Celtics

Starting to wonder if Dillon Jones is Brad's guy. He doesn't get mentioned much here but seems like a player that could plug in and get minutes.

I'd like to trade into two early/mid 2nds and get one of Tyson/Scheierman/Dadiet/Jones/Johnson (wings) and one of Mogbo /Isodhogo/Bona/Freeman/Chomche (bigs)

Feeling greedy, but hey, there'll be some good role players in this draft.

[redslastlaugh]

Brooklyn is so rich in future picks and are now looking to tank this upcoming year. Do they want in to this draft? Would they give up a future protected first to get #30 and we just trade out entirely? Or are they going to dump any good players, like their young bigs Sharpe and Clowney to just bottom out entirely?

Someone said Nets just want to win ten games next year for the great 2025 draft lottery odds.

Might be a fire sale in Brooklyn. I have to take a look at their roster, books and list of future picks.

Let Brooklyn take this years JR Giddens.

I don't really think there's a DeAndre Jordan to pass on, thankfully. Let Utah take Giddens