Trade Ideas Thread, 2020-21

[ConstableGeneva]

I'll take Jingles over Bertans, Bjelica, Gallo, Warren, etc. I doubt Jazz gives him up even for the #14.

[djFan71]

I'll take Jingles over Bertans, Bjelica, Gallo, Warren, etc. I doubt Jazz gives him up even for the #14.

Do you think we could even it out or is it a lost cause? To see how interested you are.... would you include Grant and/or 30?

14, 30, Grant, Semi for Ingles. Agreed on at draft. Completed after you sign both picks.

[ConstableGeneva]

I'll take Jingles over Bertans, Bjelica, Gallo, Warren, etc. I doubt Jazz gives him up even for the #14.

Do you think we could even it out or is it a lost cause. To see how interested you are.... would you include Grant and/or 30?

14, 30, Grant, Semi for Ingles. Agreed on at draft. Completed after you sign both picks.

Remove 30 and I think it's fair value. But I'm going the other way actually. How about Kanter, Poirier, Semi, and #30 for Ingles? Hahah.

I would do the trade you're proposing for someone in his 20s and a potential keeper after their current contract.

I might just sign Evan Turner for that tall-ish ballhandler role (sadly without the shooting).

[djFan71]

I'll take Jingles over Bertans, Bjelica, Gallo, Warren, etc. I doubt Jazz gives him up even for the #14.

Do you think we could even it out or is it a lost cause. To see how interested you are.... would you include Grant and/or 30?

14, 30, Grant, Semi for Ingles. Agreed on at draft. Completed after you sign both picks.

Remove 30 and I think it's fair value. But I'm going the other way actually. How about Kanter, Poirier, Semi, and #30 for Ingles? Hahah.

I would do the trade you're proposing for someone in his 20s and a potential keeper after their current contract.

I might just sign Evan Turner for that tall-ish ballhandler role (sadly without the shooting).

I think you might get banned from the T&T board even for posting that first version over here.

I do agree it's probably 30 or Grant. Just wanted to push the boundary. But, I doubt the Jazz think they're rebuilding, so they're not gonna sell off good players for picks, so you'd kinda have to convince them. Definitely a win now move for Danny. I didn't realize Ingles was quite that old (just turned 33) but you get 2 more good years then hopefully someone else has taken over by then.

ET over Wanamaker for backup point? ET at least has a better post game. Err..... postgame game, that is.

[djFan71]

Hayward, Theis, 14 for #2 & Horford & PHI '21 1st:
https://tradenba.com/trades/uc18KkLz0

Under the tax if you fill spot 14 with vet min/rookie. That helps delay repeater past the end of Al's deal which is key since years 2 & 3 would be brutal tax when Tatum's max kicks in, but you have time to make moves.

Get LaMelo? Then 26, 30 on Reed, Bey, Woodard, etc, as available.

You can also keep the Philly/Horford part out and take Powell/Wright/big TPE instead. Which is better if you can do a S&T later for someone like Favors or Ibaka. But if you can't the big options at full MLE are very underwhelming.

[snowman]

I'm pretty sure that the Horford ship has sailed. He still would be the only big on the floor in Brad's system, and that was what made him leave in the first place. Plus, that contract.....I'd rather keep Hayward anyway.

[flintsky21]

This is the not the draft you'd want to trade up. This draft lack star power at the top but it's a deep draft, so having 3 first rounders is probably better than having 1 at the top. While many pegged Edwards, Ball and Wiseman as the top 3, I don't feel there's much difference in talent level for the 1st 15 or even 20 guys. Nesmith could easily be a better fit at the pro level than Anthony Edwards, and there's probably nothing much that separates Ball, Hayes and Haliburton from Kira Lewis, Tyrell Terry and Cole Anthony. Or Achiuwa from Okungwu.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I feel like its time for one of our board deep throats to point us in the right direction.
We have collectively lost our way.

Yup.

It's been a long time since we had some insider bombs on here, they were amazing pieces of info to have.

It’s too early for insider bombs. Wait a few weeks

Yup— every FO is planning for a million different scenario’s right now and things are just too loosely formed until there is a better idea regarding where the cap/tax will be.

[100proof]

Hayward, Theis, 14 for #2 & Horford & PHI '21 1st:
https://tradenba.com/trades/uc18KkLz0

Under the tax if you fill spot 14 with vet min/rookie. That helps delay repeater past the end of Al's deal which is key since years 2 & 3 would be brutal tax when Tatum's max kicks in, but you have time to make moves.

Get LaMelo? Then 26, 30 on Reed, Bey, Woodard, etc, as available.

You can also keep the Philly/Horford part out and take Powell/Wright/big TPE instead. Which is better if you can do a S&T later for someone like Favors or Ibaka. But if you can't the big options at full MLE are very underwhelming.

Funny you post this, I was thinking something similar this morning.

https://tradenba.com/trades/M2lY0djG9

Mine is a little different.

Trying to keep as few of Moving parts as possible I have it as:

GSW in: Horford, #14, #26
out: Wiggins and #2

Horford is a superior fit for them to Wiggins. Perfect center for their system, Great at setting screens, can pass as good as any center and can space the floor and block shots. Salary is less and contract is better long term than Wiggins.
Curry
Pool or MLE
Klay
Draymond
Horford




Philly in: Wiggins, Edwards #30
out: Horford

Philly adds the superior fit for them. Wiggins makes them younger and gives them a 3rd/4th option scoring threat off the wing.
Simmons
Richardson
Wiggins
Harris
Embiid


Chicago in: Romeo, Poirier #2, Future pick from Boston Lotto and end of draft protected. (1-14 and 25-30 protected)
out: WCJ, #4

Chicago grabs Wiseman at #2 and make a better front court pairing with Lavine
White
Lavine
Romeo/Porter
Markannen
Wiseman



Boston in: #4, WCJ
out: Romeo, Poirier, Edwards, #14, #26, Heavily protected First

Boston consolidates picks and youth to move up in draft and add a Center that should fit Steven's system to a T.

Can get a top PG prospect at 4(Haliburton or Hayes) and PF at 30 (Reed or Woodard) and a scorer at 47 (riller, Joe, Scribb, Hinton, HArris, Stanley, Hall) Use vet min on a PG and another PF if Kanter does opt out.


Kemba/#4/Vet min
Brown/Smart/#47
Hayward/GrantW
Tatum/#30/Vet min
WCJ/Theis/Timelord

[100proof]

What does it take to add either Deni or Okoro to the team?

Brown
Deni
Tatum

as a sg/sf/pf trio is deadly.


And as a consolation
Smart/Brown/Okoro/Tatum is a team that would not get scored on.

[100proof]

The full youth movement trade.

Kemba, Poirier to Knicks

Hayward, Edwards and #14 to Cavs

#5, #8, Exum, Portis to Boston.

Move shed 43 million in salary this season (tpe) also the 25 million incoming salaries are expiring.

Draft OO and Okoro at 5 and 8.

Team has the best Defense in the NBA by a mile. Tatum, Brown and Smart score in the starting lineup with Romeo and Exum picking up the slack off the bench.

Need to draft some shooters at 26 and 30 (Riller/Bane and Reed or Woodard)

Have Max capspace to round out roster.

20 mill to Ibaka (1 year)
14 mill to Joe Harris (3 years)
10 mill to Teague (2 years)

Have to buy someone out, or trade them off, or just put Exum on inactive list. use pick 47 as a 2wp



Smart/Teague/Exum
Brown/Harris
Okoro/Romeo/Bane
Tatum/Theis/GrantW/Reed
Ibaka/OO/Timelord/Portis

No one will score on the team.,

[BK_2020]

Having to watch Smart/ Teague/Exum at point guard sounds like a punishment for some heinous evil deed.

[100proof]

Having to watch Smart/ Teague/Exum at point guard sounds like a punishment for some heinous evil deed.

why?

Smart has proven to be able to be a lead guard.
Teague is a competent PG as well.


Who would you sign if not Jeff?

[BK_2020]

Smart for all his virtues on defense is a boneheaded low bbiq player who has delusions about being a bigtime playmaker and 3 point shooter. Teague doesn't know how to run the pnr and got run out of Minnesota even though they didn't have a single viable pg behind him. Exum is... ugh.
Whenever Smart became the primary ballhandler the Celtics offense was in shambles. Given that even elite perimeter defense is overrated, I think BOS should trade Smart while his value is high (1st team all-D lol) for a big guard that can run an offense like Lonzo or Rubio.

[BK_2020]

Jeff Teague is a monster and he should be locked up so children don't have to watch him play basketball.
Watch him practice exemplary social distancing though even before COVID-19.

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[djFan71]

I'm pretty sure that the Horford ship has sailed. He still would be the only big on the floor in Brad's system, and that was what made him leave in the first place. Plus, that contract.....I'd rather keep Hayward anyway.

I'm definitely on team keep Hayward. But if you know he's gone after next year, then try to get something. But, after some sleep I agree that something shouldn't be Al.

[snowman]

I'm pretty sure that the Horford ship has sailed. He still would be the only big on the floor in Brad's system, and that was what made him leave in the first place. Plus, that contract.....I'd rather keep Hayward anyway.

I'm definitely on team keep Hayward. But if you know he's gone after next year, then try to get something. But, after some sleep I agree that something shouldn't be Al.

ok lets say Hayward opts in, but tells Danny "I'm gone after this season" or Danny just wants to move on from Hayward after next season. Which ever MAY OR MAY NOT be the case, let's just say the Celtic brass realize that this is his last year with us. Personally, I would rather offer Hayward a sign and trade option after next season, or let him walk, if he turns down an extension from us, then to take on a bad contract or a bad player. I know we get no cap relief from him leaving, and it doesn't create any more cap space if we don't get anything in return. I also realize that it doesn't give us any kind of salary slot to sign a free agent, at least not that year. What we do gain is a year away from the repeater level of the lux tax. What I'm suggesting is playing hardball with his agent. We all know he is going to pick up his option, and it's very doubtful that an agreement can be reached on a number that both sides would be satisfied with, on a longer but team friendly contract. So, After Hayward picks up his option, let him play out the season. Then offer a contract around OR SLIGHTLY BELOW what Brown is making. If he excepts great, if not then offer to sign and trade where ever his agent can work out a deal. There will not be many teams that will have the kind of money he may want, and still be in contention for the playoffs. Also, the other FA's that will be available that off season are going to be taking the lions share of that FA money, (Giannis, Davis, LeBron, George, Ayton, Abebayo, Mitchell, Morant ) as well.

Don't get me wrong, I think Hayward would be really good for this team over the next 3 or 4 years, at the right price. But, If I am Danny, I'm not going to keep this team in lux tax hell any longer than I have too.

[Dannyboy36]

Could we get John Collins in a Marcus Smart centric deal?

[Feed Your Head]

Could we get John Collins in a Marcus Smart centric deal?

Smart>Collins in today’s NBA.

[playa-hater]

A new one, I think:

14, Poirier, Semi, *, cash for Joe Ingles.

Jazz are in a weird win now, but can't really win mode. They could use another piece to grow with Spider, but not sure if they would do this or not.

Ingles would fit our system very nicely - this should placate some of the Gallo fans I annoyed in the other thread.
We still pick up some swings/bigs at 26 & 30.


* We would need a tiny bit more salary. So either add Edwards/javonte, or send them to a 3rd team or send an opted-in Kanter back to them or POR. Etc, etc.

methinks you mean me