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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#301 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:49 pm

Celtics now have 3 of the top 9 offensive rebounders from last season (min 900 mins played) -- Moses (3rd), Timelord (6th), TT (9th). Miss your shots, guys!!
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Post#302 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:04 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Sneaky best part of this trade is that it happened before Phillys game tonight and you know its a distraction for them

lol, that's a stretch man. :)
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#303 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:05 pm

The need for a PG is being way overstated *IF Boston resigns Fournier. Tatum, Fournier are all ball needy yet play-makers (Tatum's continued improvement) with Smart and PP easily able to fill in the Gaps.

I still want another another shooting scoring 3-4 type.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#304 » by jfs1000d » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:06 pm

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Read on Twitter


THIS.


OKC got a 1st for taking on Al, then move him for a 1st. Impressive

Is it? They are spending $20m to acquire a first round pick.


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Post#305 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:08 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Having the ability to keep fournier is massive


still not sold on keeping fournier, though trading kemba makes it easier to swallow. the kemba+fournier lineup was a defensive atrocity.

but i think we've got to give nesmith/romeo room to grow. they've shown enough to deserve a chance.


Meh, Fournier’s best role would be 6th man and I dont think that impedes Nesmith or Romeo

Do you think Fournier can play "point" at all? If he's out there with 2 of say Romeo/Tatum/Al with no true PG, is that enough playmaking?
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#306 » by jfs1000d » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:10 pm

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SuperDeluxe wrote:Not familiar with Brown. Anybody has a 1-2 line summary?

Good rebounder and rim runner, can block shots, but can't finish through contact.

Last thing this team need sis another first round pick.

Don’t like losing Kemba scoring. But we could use al’s defense and shotmaking as well as passing. Desperately need a PG. it can’t be Marcus. He isn’t good enough.

End it line for Tristan? Probably gets traded in a package for a starting pg .


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Post#307 » by darylbe » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:12 pm

I wasn't sure, but after this, boosted confidence in Stevens as GM. It was enough to lose kemba, period. Saving money, and brown seems like a perfect (cheap) addition. I don't know enough about him, but PP to MB lobs off the bench for 4 pts a mimute sayyy whattt
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Post#308 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:13 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Sneaky best part of this trade is that it happened before Phillys game tonight and you know its a distraction for them

lol, that's a stretch man. :)


Ehh, I think Ben wants out. I think seeing someone go through something similar to him and coming out for the better once he left will resonate.

It is a stretch tho lol
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Post#309 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:14 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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still not sold on keeping fournier, though trading kemba makes it easier to swallow. the kemba+fournier lineup was a defensive atrocity.

but i think we've got to give nesmith/romeo room to grow. they've shown enough to deserve a chance.


Meh, Fournier’s best role would be 6th man and I dont think that impedes Nesmith or Romeo

Do you think Fournier can play "point" at all? If he's out there with 2 of say Romeo/Tatum/Al with no true PG, is that enough playmaking?


I think he can play a role similar to Hayward. He’s a ball mover and a floor spacer with a decent handle.
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Post#310 » by SLCceltic » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:14 pm

don't see how anybody can throw shade at this deal ...landing big Moses is significant for this roster ! he is a massive human being with size and skill, young, plenty of room to grow and HEALTHY !
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#311 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:14 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Sneaky best part of this trade is that it happened before Phillys game tonight and you know its a distraction for them

lol, that's a stretch man. :)


Ehh, I think Ben wants out. I think seeing someone go through something similar to him and coming out for the better once he left will resonate.

Ah, didn't think of the Ben angle, but he's gonna drop like 18-8-12 tonight and help force game 7.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#312 » by sam_I_am » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:14 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
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SuperDeluxe wrote:Not familiar with Brown. Anybody has a 1-2 line summary?

Good rebounder and rim runner, can block shots, but can't finish through contact.

Last thing this team need sis another first round pick.

Don’t like losing Kemba scoring. But we could use al’s defense and shotmaking as well as passing. Desperately need a PG. it can’t be Marcus. He isn’t good enough.

End it line for Tristan? Probably gets traded in a package for a starting pg .


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100% agree. Would LAL sign and trade Schroeder for TT? I haven’t watched him play since he played with Al in Atlanta. Is he still any good? Is he still a pass first plus defender?
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#313 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:15 pm

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Meh, Fournier’s best role would be 6th man and I dont think that impedes Nesmith or Romeo

Do you think Fournier can play "point" at all? If he's out there with 2 of say Romeo/Tatum/Al with no true PG, is that enough playmaking?


I think he can play a role similar to Hayward. He’s a ball mover and a floor spacer with a decent handle.

Yeah, I've always felt he's Hayward-Lite. Barring further moves, I think he or Romeo is going to have to take on some of that role, or there's just not room.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#314 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:15 pm

djFan71 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
djFan71 wrote:lol, that's a stretch man. :)


Ehh, I think Ben wants out. I think seeing someone go through something similar to him and coming out for the better once he left will resonate.

Ah, didn't think of the Ben angle, but he's gonna drop like 18-8-12 tonight and help force game 7.


Im just forever jaded by Kyrie tanking when he clearly wanted out and think Ben may be doing the same
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Post#315 » by SuperDeluxe » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:16 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
CeltsFlow wrote:Good rebounder and rim runner, can block shots, but can't finish through contact.

Last thing this team need sis another first round pick.

Don’t like losing Kemba scoring. But we could use al’s defense and shotmaking as well as passing. Desperately need a PG. it can’t be Marcus. He isn’t good enough.

End it line for Tristan? Probably gets traded in a package for a starting pg .


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100% agree. Would LAL sign and trade Schroeder for TT? I haven’t watched him play since he played with Al in Atlanta. Is he still any good? Is he still a pass first plus defender?

As far as my experience watching Schröder play goes, he loves to pass the ball to himself.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#316 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:18 pm

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Ehh, I think Ben wants out. I think seeing someone go through something similar to him and coming out for the better once he left will resonate.

Ah, didn't think of the Ben angle, but he's gonna drop like 18-8-12 tonight and help force game 7.


Im just forever jaded by Kyrie tanking when he clearly wanted out and think Ben may be doing the same

I dunno. I can see the similarities, but the stakes are a little different. We were dysfunctional all year and clearly outmatched against the Bucks and Kyrie flat out quit. But, Sixers are the #1 seed.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#317 » by ChopLuey » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:24 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:Having the ability to keep fournier is massive


Nah, we need two way players. No room for players who can’t defend a chair. Hopefully we can S&T him for something or let him walk.


There is absolutely room for Fournier to help us win games, this is silly


Come playoffs all you have to do is give the ball to who he is guarding. Sure he can help you win some regular season games, but for how much $ are you willing to pay a player who is a major defensive liability.
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Post#318 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:25 pm

djFan71 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Ah, didn't think of the Ben angle, but he's gonna drop like 18-8-12 tonight and help force game 7.


Im just forever jaded by Kyrie tanking when he clearly wanted out and think Ben may be doing the same

I dunno. I can see the similarities, but the stakes are a little different. We were dysfunctional all year and clearly outmatched against the Bucks and Kyrie flat out quit. But, Sixers are the #1 seed.


They tried to trade him for Harden. He eventually got over it cuz its Harden. Then they tried to trade for Lowry, Simmons received the message and his play strongly dipped.
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Post#319 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:26 pm

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Nah, we need two way players. No room for players who can’t defend a chair. Hopefully we can S&T him for something or let him walk.


There is absolutely room for Fournier to help us win games, this is silly


Come playoffs all you have to do is give the ball to who he is guarding. Sure he can help you win some regular season games, but for how much $ are you willing to pay a player who is a major defensive liability.


Sure, some teams in the post season will hurt him. But the regular season still matters. And we had top defenses with crappy PGs regularly, my guess is we can figure out one meh wing defender
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#320 » by djFan71 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:27 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Im just forever jaded by Kyrie tanking when he clearly wanted out and think Ben may be doing the same

I dunno. I can see the similarities, but the stakes are a little different. We were dysfunctional all year and clearly outmatched against the Bucks and Kyrie flat out quit. But, Sixers are the #1 seed.


They tried to trade him for Harden. He eventually got over it cuz its Harden. Then they tried to trade for Lowry, Simmons received the message and his play strongly dipped.

Wow, didn't know the Lowry one.

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