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Post#321 » by Crownontherocks » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:48 am

Reports said from wojo earlier that fakers and knicks refused to be part of 3 team trade that didnt land rondo.

Does that mean we try to flip wright or nelson?

And does that mean were going to trade wright before deadline?
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Post#322 » by sully00 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:49 am

The really strange part of this deal is this team really needs Nelson and Wright's skill set. The idea of being an 8th seed type team with no Rondo doesn't sound exciting now but if in two months we are doing it with Smart in Rondo's role I think Ainge has done his job. Wright gives this team the athleticism and shot blocking it desperately needs in the post, you pick up another '15 draft pick. Wright is just an expiring contract right now but he is only 27 and was a top 10 pick coming into the league and is kind of a modern day Bo Outlaw he may end up being a guy you sign.

I am glad this over and we can move forward we know who we are now and what this team is trying to do. The best part is Rondo went to a great spot for him and now he doesn't really have a reason to go NY or LA and make us hate him. It is easy to root for the Mavs.
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Post#323 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:49 am

Howard Mass wrote:On the replies to my post, I saying it shows how valuable first round picks are.

Now, Rondo becoming a free agent at year's end also probably devalued him a bit but the first is the biggest asset in the deal.

It shows how valuable they are becoming but you guys are not getting a good return here.


They were never going to. He was going to get paid a lot and had a lot of control in terms of who was going to pay it to him, which he was intent on exercising. That killed his market dead.

Given that the Celts likely didn't want to match (or even exceed) the FA offers he was going to get, if they even had that option, they did what had to be done.

In sum, while they didn't win the trade, the did the right thing in the bigger picture.
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Post#324 » by KJandHondo35 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:49 am

Here's the thing with Green, I'm not sure he's the type of guy that *wins* games. Even when putting up 30, easily can still be a loss. Maybe the best thing for him would just let him average 18 shots a night for the rest of the season, and use him if you have to on draft night to move up to Okafor or Towns. Just kind of as a safety net incase the Celtics are at like 5 and odd team out again.

Just a thought, if DA can get like an MKG? Heck yeah do the trade, but I'm not seeing it.
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Re: Rajon Rondo Traded To The Mavericks. 

Post#325 » by Darth Celtic » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:50 am

When ainge traded walker the first time, everyone screamed he didn't get enough. Fire ainge, horrible trade, raef's corpse isn't worth it. In the end, that contract, and those picks ended in players and contracts used to get Ray and KG. Just saying. Don't judge a trade for 2-3 years really. Smart showed in limited time he can outplay rondo.
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Re: Rajon Rondo Traded To The Mavericks. 

Post#326 » by DarkAzcura » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:50 am

Crownontherocks wrote:Reports said from wojo earlier that fakers and knicks refused to be part of 3 team trade that didnt land rondo.

Does that mean we try to flip wright or nelson?

And does that mean were going to trade wright before deadline?



Really doubt we are trying to flip Wright in any deal unless it's a really good one. He may be listed as a PF, but he honestly fills a hole we've had here for years. And I mean, years. He's a nice piece to have.

The value we got back sucks generally speaking, but I'm kinda excited to have a big dude who can throw it down a bit and block some shots. It'll be nice to watch for a change, heh..
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Post#327 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:50 am

Come on, Caveman. You really need to insult my intelligence on this?
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Post#328 » by theman » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:51 am

GuyClinch wrote:Ainge has got guts - I didn't think he had it in him. People think I am some Rondo hater and am really excited about this. But it was clear to everyone that Ainge wasn't going to get the 3 to 4 stars to surround Rondo with to get the best out of him. And it was clear to Ainge at least that Rondo was looking for greener pastures.


So now instead of finding 3 stars to surround Rondo Danny needs to find 3 stars and a Rondo.
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Re: Rajon Rondo Traded To The Mavericks. 

Post#329 » by smith2373 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:52 am

sully00 wrote:The really strange part of this deal is this team really needs Nelson and Wright's skill set. The idea of being an 8th seed type team with no Rondo doesn't sound exciting now but if in two months we are doing it with Smart in Rondo's role I think Ainge has done his job. Wright gives this team the athleticism and shot blocking it desperately needs in the post, you pick up another '15 draft pick. Wright is just an expiring contract right now but he is only 27 and was a top 10 pick coming into the league and is kind of a modern day Bo Outlaw he may end up being a guy you sign.

I am glad this over and we can move forward we know who we are now and what this team is trying to do. The best part is Rondo went to a great spot for him and now he doesn't really have a reason to go NY or LA and make us hate him. It is easy to root for the Mavs.


Nelson is pretty washed up honestly. I don't expect him to still be here past February, whether it's a trade or buyout.
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Post#330 » by Jammer » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:53 am

If the Celtics are only getting one First Rounder it should 2017, unprotected.

They already have two Firsts, #31, and another second rounder in 2015,

and three Firsts and two second rounders in 2016.

So they have four picks in June without this trade, and five picks next year.

They definately should be going for the 2017, when they only have one First, and maybe no second at all.

They have two Firsts in 2018.
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Post#331 » by Howard Mass » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:55 am

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Howard Mass wrote:On the replies to my post, I saying it shows how valuable first round picks are.

Now, Rondo becoming a free agent at year's end also probably devalued him a bit but the first is the biggest asset in the deal.

It shows how valuable they are becoming but you guys are not getting a good return here.


They were never going to. He was going to get paid a lot and had a lot of control in terms of who was going to pay it to him, which he was intent on exercising. That killed his market dead.

Given that the Celts likely didn't want to match (or even exceed) the FA offers he was going to get, if they even had that option, they did what had to be done.

In sum, while they didn't win the trade, the did the right thing in the bigger picture.


You never get the best value when your dealing an all-star.

I do think all of you were hoping for more though.
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Re: Rajon Rondo Traded To The Mavericks. 

Post#332 » by StojkoVrankovic » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:57 am

Darth Celtic wrote:When ainge traded walker the first time, everyone screamed he didn't get enough. Fire ainge, horrible trade, raef's corpse isn't worth it. In the end, that contract, and those picks ended in players and contracts used to get Ray and KG. Just saying. Don't judge a trade for 2-3 years really. Smart showed in limited time he can outplay rondo.

The team that gets the best player wins just about every trade that happens in the NBA.


What did Smart do again? I remember that 1 good game he played on offense, but outplay Rondo? That didn't happen
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Re: Rajon Rondo Traded To The Mavericks. 

Post#333 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:57 am

Howard Mass wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:On the replies to my post, I saying it shows how valuable first round picks are.

Now, Rondo becoming a free agent at year's end also probably devalued him a bit but the first is the biggest asset in the deal.

It shows how valuable they are becoming but you guys are not getting a good return here.


They were never going to. He was going to get paid a lot and had a lot of control in terms of who was going to pay it to him, which he was intent on exercising. That killed his market dead.

Given that the Celts likely didn't want to match (or even exceed) the FA offers he was going to get, if they even had that option, they did what had to be done.

In sum, while they didn't win the trade, the did the right thing in the bigger picture.


You never get the best value when your dealing an all-star.

I do think all of you were hoping for more though.


I certainly wasn't expecting more. Only thing that surprises me about it is that it is a similar return to what we likely could have gotten in a sign-and-trade this summer.

No matter, time to liquidate Green and Bass as well.
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Post#334 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:59 am

Jammer wrote:If the Celtics are only getting one First Rounder it should 2017, unprotected.

They already have two Firsts, #31, and another second rounder in 2015,

and three Firsts and two second rounders in 2016.

So they have four picks in June without this trade, and five picks next year.

They definately should be going for the 2017, when they only have one First, and maybe no second at all.

They have two Firsts in 2018.


Dallas won't want to do that, as it would impede their ability to include future picks in trades for several years to come. I'm good with an unprotected 2015. Won't root for injuries to them or the Clips, but should they happen, either of those teams could easily slip into the lottery.
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Post#335 » by smith2373 » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:02 am

Howard Mass wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:On the replies to my post, I saying it shows how valuable first round picks are.

Now, Rondo becoming a free agent at year's end also probably devalued him a bit but the first is the biggest asset in the deal.

It shows how valuable they are becoming but you guys are not getting a good return here.


They were never going to. He was going to get paid a lot and had a lot of control in terms of who was going to pay it to him, which he was intent on exercising. That killed his market dead.

Given that the Celts likely didn't want to match (or even exceed) the FA offers he was going to get, if they even had that option, they did what had to be done.

In sum, while they didn't win the trade, the did the right thing in the bigger picture.


You never get the best value when your dealing an all-star.

I do think all of you were hoping for more though.


I wasn't expecting to get a return like Minnesota got for Kevin Love but at the same time I also thought he would be able to fetch more than a couple backups, a late 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder.

Makes me wonder if the rumors last year about the Kings offering Thomas, McLemore and picks for Rondo if he was willing to play there was really the truth or just a Danny Ainge smokescreen
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Post#336 » by Banks2Pierce » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:03 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
Dallas won't want to do that, as it would impede their ability to include future picks in trades for several years to come. I'm good with an unprotected 2015. Won't root for injuries to them or the Clips, but should they happen, either of those teams could easily slip into the lottery.


Think I read somewhere within the last hour that the Dallas pick is lotto protected.

Props on calling the return a while ago.

I started to get fully on board with the Deal Rondo camp a few weeks ago, but thought we'd be able to do slightly better with the return. Pretty clear that the limited market, rental possibility, and questionable play did their damage.
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Post#337 » by BakersDozen » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:04 am

KJandHondo35 wrote:Here's the thing with Green, I'm not sure he's the type of guy that *wins* games. Even when putting up 30, easily can still be a loss. Maybe the best thing for him would just let him average 18 shots a night for the rest of the season, and use him if you have to on draft night to move up to Okafor or Towns. Just kind of as a safety net incase the Celtics are at like 5 and odd team out again.

Just a thought, if DA can get like an MKG? Heck yeah do the trade, but I'm not seeing it.


I don't think the Hornets would trade MKG for Green...we could get Stephonson im guessing,but do we really want to open that can of worms? I wonder if the Bulls would have any interest in Green. Would they put McBuckets on the table for him?
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Post#338 » by theman » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:04 am

Jammer wrote:If the Celtics are only getting one First Rounder it should 2017, unprotected.

They already have two Firsts, #31, and another second rounder in 2015,

and three Firsts and two second rounders in 2016.

So they have four picks in June without this trade, and five picks next year.

They definately should be going for the 2017, when they only have one First, and maybe no second at all.

They have two Firsts in 2018.


I was thinking 2019.
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Post#339 » by Marvel » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:05 am

Wright is a backup. Meer is washed up and Jae...i don't even. ****

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Post#340 » by Banks2Pierce » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:06 am

Looks like we won't be getting that pick until 2016 after that latest Woj tweet.

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