All Things 2017 Draft

meatball sub · Post #321 » by **meatball sub** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:02 am

"This is where all the plastic people melt."

Wow, Lavar's boy got worked.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #322 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:02 am

Oh my gosh guys we totally all need some big baller brand shoes!!! They even sound like such pussy willow grade wimp shoes.

greenroom31 · Post #323 » by **greenroom31** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:03 am

Homerclease wrote:
KGboss wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Jackson > Ball

We agree on this.

Ball is overrated and his dad is a cancer waiting to pop up.

Ball gets matched up against fox and gets owned.

Jackson gets matched up against Bridges and puts on a clinic.

The choice is really quite clear.

Bridges held his own against JJ. Not looking it up but I think he had like 22 points and 7 rebounds

KGboss · Post #324 » by **KGboss** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:06 am

Michael Holley got every one of his picks wrong tonight for anyone that listens to Dale and Holley.

Pretty funny

Homerclease · Post #325 » by **Homerclease** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:06 am

greenroom31 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
KGboss wrote:We agree on this.

Ball is overrated and his dad is a cancer waiting to pop up.

Ball gets matched up against fox and gets owned.

Jackson gets matched up against Bridges and puts on a clinic.

The choice is really quite clear.

Bridges held his own against JJ. Not looking it up but I think he had like 22 points and 7 rebounds

Oh he absolutely did. But Jackson left no doubt who was the better player on that night. Just like fox did tonight

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #326 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:07 am

Omg guys big baller brand shoes are so much better than yeezys

Bar Fight · Post #327 » by **Bar Fight** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:11 am

return2glory wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
return2glory wrote:Some draft boards are going to be changing after this game.

Fox movin up, Ball moving down.

You overestimate how much stock people put into one single game. How far did Wiggins and Parker drop after their bad tournament performances?

It's not like Ball is having a bad game. It's more like he is getting exposed for being slow, especially against someone lightening quick as Fox.

Ball is not Magic. He isn't Jason Kidd either. He will be good, but I don't think he has star potential. His shot and defense are questionable.

He didn't get exposed at all. These guys have been watching him all year. Do you not think they are already aware of his weaknesses? Especially considering he got outplayed by Fox earlier in the year already. The book is out on most of these guys and a tournament game is not drastically changing anything.

31to6 · Post #328 » by **31to6** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:13 am

I'm totally down with overreacting to this game and trashing Lonzo. I want guys who can get into the lane, really get into guys on D, and look built to last. All of why JJ is my #1 guy.

We need a top 2 pick, really...

FWIW Fox looks 100% like a Danny player for better or worse.

threrf23 · Post #329 » by **threrf23** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:29 am

Not draft related, but this Wisconsin team just won't go away. Highly likeable team.

lon3lytoaster · Post #330 » by **lon3lytoaster** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:40 am

31to6 wrote:I'm totally down with overreacting to this game and trashing Lonzo. I want guys who can get into the lane, really get into guys on D, and look built to last. All of why JJ is my #1 guy.

We need a top 2 pick, really...

FWIW Fox looks 100% like a Danny player for better or worse.

Agree on Fox. He, Jackson and Fultz are Ainge guys to a tee.

London2Boston · Post #331 » by **London2Boston** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:49 am

Tbf, most of Ball's weaknesses that you can see can also be found in either Fultz or Jackson. Not great defensively? Same with Fultz. Poor from the line? So are both Fultz and Jackson. Question marks over whether the shot translates to pro? Likewise with Jackson.

You can't over react to the tournament. Wiggins had like 5 points when he was eliminated. The three of them are great players who will make us much better, but also aren't without flaws. Fultz is obviously the guy with the least risk though, so you peg him as first and work from there and he wasn't even in the tournament to over react to so..

Bar Fight · Post #332 » by **Bar Fight** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:54 am

London2Boston wrote:Tbf, most of Ball's weaknesses that you can see can also be found in either Fultz or Jackson. Not great defensively? Same with Fultz. Poor from the line? So are both Fultz and Jackson. Question marks over whether the shot translates to pro? Likewise with Jackson.

You can't over react to the tournament. Wiggins had like 5 points when he was eliminated. The three of them are great players who will make us much better, but also aren't without flaws. Fultz is obviously the guy with the least risk though, so you peg him as first and work from there and he wasn't even in the tournament to over react to so..

You can't really argue that Fultz has trouble getting to the rim or scoring in traffic. That's the biggest concern with Ball for me.

Bar Fight · Post #333 » by **Bar Fight** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:55 am

Crazy shot to win the game for Florida BTW.

threrf23 · Post #334 » by **threrf23** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:00 am

Bar Fight wrote:Crazy shot to win the game for Florida BTW.

That was a hell of a finish.

Hayes should've actually missed his second free throw. Florida didn't have any timeouts remaining and wouldn't have been able to inbound the ball.

Shamrock · Post #335 » by **Shamrock** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:04 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Omg guys big baller brand shoes are so much better than yeezys

Anyone that buys any of his overpriced garbage merchandise needs to be exiled

Asian Celtic · Post #336 » by **Asian Celtic** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:05 am

UCLA lost with Ball putting up mediocre performance and suddenly he's being overtaken by jackson? Wow what 1 game does. I'm disappointed he didn't takeover the game but by no means am I changing my opinion on him still going 1/2 in the draft.

We can all agree though on getting at least a top4 pick is still great as any one of the projected guys can be franchise cornerstones.

Banks2Pierce · Post #337 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:08 am

meatball sub wrote:"This is where all the plastic people melt."

The plastic people are the ones who put too much stock in one game, though. Gotta weigh the whole body of work. I do feel a little less gung ho after this one and another game Lonzo had in his conf tourney, however. I don't know whether or not to trust in anyone's shot in this draft outside of Monk and freaking Markkanen.

31to6 · Post #338 » by **31to6** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:08 am

Don't worry I've had Jackson ahead of Ball for awhile now -- tonight's just what pushes me out of thinking that a top 4 pick = automatic franchise cornerstone.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #339 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:16 am

Shamrock wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Omg guys big baller brand shoes are so much better than yeezys

Anyone that buys any of his overpriced garbage merchandise needs to be exiled

It will come as a big surprise when Wal Mart is the only company willing to stock their gear for second rate prices

Disposable Hero · Post #340 » by **Disposable Hero** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:22 am

so glad people aren't being prisoners of the moment /s. UCLA just doesn't have nearly the talent Kentucky does. Blaming Ball is asinine. He looked to be banged up too. But despite the loss you could see flashes of brilliance from him especially passing and BBIQ.

BTW Fox was always this good. Maybe some of you are just now seeing that after putting others on a pedestal all year. I don't get why people have to tear some players down to prop up their personal favorite and be critical of those that don't agree. Most of these excellent prospects are similar in talent and for us, we can't go wrong with who we pick. Any of the point guards could turn out to be better than the others. Any of them. The first 6 picks could all be guards (Fultz, Ball, Smith, Fox, Ntilikina, Monk). Each of them brings something unique and each has a flaw(s). There's no use arguing over these kids. We'll get who we get and we'll love him no matter who it is.