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Post#321 » by K For Three » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:03 am

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Banks2Pierce wrote:Wonder when people will turn on him after his likely slow start? I predict it's by Halloween that we'll see stuff like he'll never be the same again, etc. Just prepping myself for it.
There is definite concern and we don’t have to wait till Halloween for it. That’s different from turning on him. Right or wrong there were those including in the Celtics organization that thought he might play at the end of last year. Until he plays at a high level,similar to what Paul George was able to get back there will be nervousness


When we signed him, we needed Hayward to be our best all-around player, averaging at least 20 ppg. However, after trading for Kyrie and having Tatum, Brown and Rozier blossom, we no longer need him to score 20 ppg. I would be happy if he turned into a smaller Al Horford by just giving the game what it needs. 15-17 ppg, 6 apg, 5-6 rpg is fine.

Unfortunately, he will be crucified by the media due to his contract.


Speaking of Al Horford, he played A LOT of games the last few years. He will need the occasional rest games too or help out there this year.

I thought in preseason while Gordon's shot was off and he was out of it at times offensively, I might be wrong but I felt he was being active on the defensive end the best he could.

Gordon CAN help this team.
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Post#322 » by Valid » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:20 am

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Banks2Pierce wrote:Wonder when people will turn on him after his likely slow start? I predict it's by Halloween that we'll see stuff like he'll never be the same again, etc. Just prepping myself for it.
There is definite concern and we don’t have to wait till Halloween for it. That’s different from turning on him. Right or wrong there were those including in the Celtics organization that thought he might play at the end of last year. Until he plays at a high level,similar to what Paul George was able to get back there will be nervousness

No. There weren't. Brad maintained all year long that Hayward would not be back last season. The only people who thought Hayward had a shot of returning were hopeful Celtics fans.
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Post#323 » by K For Three » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:21 pm

Celtics love story!!!!

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https://nesn.com/2018/10/how-gordon-haywards-wife-robyn-helped-celtics-forward-after-injury/

Gordon Hayward’s wife wasted no time helping him rehab from his injury.

As you know, the Boston Celtics forward suffered a gruesome ankle dislocation and broken tibia during the team’s game against the Cleveland Cavaliers to open the 2017-18 NBA season. And if it wasn’t for his wife, Robyn Hayward, the All-Star forward may not have began the road to recovery right away.

Robyn put her husband to work quickly. In fact, it started the day Gordon came home from the hospital after his surgery.

“Like I had just gotten back home. I wasn’t mentally ready to start, I guess,” Gordon told the Boston Herald’s Mark Murphy. “I was down the hall throwing a pity party for myself, and she was like, ‘No, no.’ She was just on it, like, ‘Get up. Walk around, you’re supposed to walk around, get up.’”

Robyn told Murphy the doctors wanted Gordon to do arm exercises, so she brought several dumbbells down to Gordon, who was in a hospital bed in the couple’s living room.

“I was like, ‘OK, let’s do those exercises,'” Robyn said. “He was like, ‘I just got home.’ I said I don’t care. That’s what they said, so let’s do it. He was probably like, ‘Get away.’”

It was a long process for Gordon. But he’s back on his feet and ready to step foot in TD Garden for the first time in a Celtics uniform Tuesday when Boston opens up its season against the Philadelphia 76ers.


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Post#324 » by K For Three » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:26 pm

https://nesn.com/2018/10/gordon-hayward-a-little-anxious-for-opening-night-return-to-celtics/

“Definitely a little anxious, just a little bit nervous. I think that’s natural, though,” Hayward said ahead of Boston’s 2018-19 season opener against the Philadelphia 76ers, according to NBC Sports Boston. “Once you get out there and get your blood flowing and get up and down the court a couple times, that’ll go away. Just looking forward to being out there, that’s a big step for me. Like I said in the preseason, too, being out there on the floor after what happened is a big step.”

This isn’t Hayward’s first game action since the season-ending injury he suffered last October. He played in three exhibition games with Boston in recent weeks before sitting out the team’s preseason finale on Oct. 6 due to back pain.

It’s the first meaningful game for Hayward since that fateful night in Cleveland, though. And he’s clearly champing at the bit despite the understandable nervousness surrounding his return and the 25-minute restriction Celtics coach Brad Stevens plans to impose as the 28-year-old eases his way back into things.

“I’m going to go in and play as hard as I can when I’m out there on the floor,” Hayward said, per NBC Sports Boston. “That’s something that, as a player, you can’t stand — minutes and limiting the amount of minutes. I think if you would ask all the players, they’d want to be out there the whole game.

“I understand, as far as what happened, and then trying to make sure that I’m kinda going at an upward path. First game of the year, it’s the goal, and so I have to accept that. When I’m out there, I’m going to be playing hard, hard as I can.”

Hayward averaged a career-high 21.9 points and 5.4 rebounds per game in his final season with the Utah Jazz before signing with the Celtics in free agency in July 2017. He’s expected to eventually play a huge role for a Boston team with NBA Finals aspirations, but he’s well aware there will be skeptics until he shows his injury doesn’t pose a threat to his potential this season and beyond.

“Just internally, proving to myself that I can be the same player that I was,” Hayward said. “I want to get back out there on the court and show everybody what I can do.”
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Post#325 » by Valid » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:00 am

I can only imagine the ovation he is going to get tomorrow.
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Post#326 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:27 am

Valid wrote:I can only imagine the ovation he is going to get tomorrow.

...and my ovulation after he hits his first triple then later after he dunks on Ben Coward Simmons.
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Post#327 » by mbsnmisc » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:27 am

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Still not over Robyn blocking me on IG. I was just concerned and curious about Gordon, his progress... and every single detail about their lives. What's wrong with that?!

What kind of snacks did you have for Gordo? :lol:
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Post#329 » by K For Three » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:43 pm

I mean lets be real. Gordon rocks.

Just how good does this guy look having only played 3 games so far? :droop:

Very excited for him.
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Post#330 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:29 pm

Kyrie For Three wrote:I mean lets be real. Gordon rocks.

Just how good does this guy look having only played 3 games so far? :droop:

Very excited for him.


Ive thought hes looked good for you guys, especially after that opening night. I mean the last 2 games hes averaging 12/5.5/2.5 on 47% shooting from the floor and 50% from 3 in just 24 minutes. Also either than Horford, he has been playing the smartest defense for you guys. I mean the per 36 on that is basically 18/8/3, I dont think anyone was thinking he would be looking that good in game 2 and 3 of this season. His jumper looks really good and his defense looks good. Transition and finishing around the paint is the only really rough spot for him, which shouldnt be that surprising. I think come playoff time he is going to be looking really close to his last year in Utah.
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Post#331 » by K For Three » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:08 pm

He admits though that his ankle is sore when he plays but it sounds like it is considered normal and could pass with time this year.

https://clutchpoints.com/celtics-news-gordon-hayward-admits-ankle-soreness-after-every-game-will-be-an-issue-for-a-while/

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Hopefully this isn't an issue down the road but I would bet he feels something almost always since his body is still adjusting.

I think my ankle sometimes hurts just thinking about what happened to him last October.
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Post#332 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:14 pm

Kyrie For Three wrote:He admits though that his ankle is sore when he plays but it sounds like it is considered normal and could pass with time this year.

https://clutchpoints.com/celtics-news-gordon-hayward-admits-ankle-soreness-after-every-game-will-be-an-issue-for-a-while/

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Hopefully this isn't an issue down the road but I would bet he feels something almost always since his body is still adjusting.

I think my ankle sometimes hurts just thinking about what happened to him last October.


Im not a doctor but I wouldnt be surprised if the soreness is just from inactivity on that ankle. Just like if you havent worked out a muscle in a long time, the first few times you work it out it is really sore. I wouldnt be shocked if this is similar just to a far greater extent. Im sure if it was something the doctors werent expecting, he wouldve been shut down.
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Post#333 » by SichtingLives » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:12 am

Appreciate everyone keeping up with the Gordons hurt/working his way back threads the past year but it's time to talk about Gordon's role on the basketball court and his future impact as a leader of this team.

We pined for his playmaking ability last year and sure enough we damn sure still need it. He is rounding into form physically, probably another month to go, maybe a bit more before the explosion, lift and confidence are solid (and longer still to truly finish the process of recovery), and still a minutes restriction which in turn is ****** up rotations, but I see him, Al and Kyrie as the most important pieces of this team just like we thought in the first place. The notions of "we'll take what we can get" and ok if he's some form of a role player chatter have lingered too long and its time to stop tempering expectations. If we are going to succeed, we will need the Gordon we paid for and by damn it I do believe that's the Gordon we'll get sooner than not.

We were all robbed of the opportunity to see what a Gordon led team would look like last year and with so many cats now out of the bag we may have forgotten that we signed a legit all-star level 2nd option player in his prime. His role is going to be huge once he is physically capable of shouldering the load and feels fully recovered. Incredibly smart and centered player. Too much talk about the other guys, especially the young guys. They'll be fine. Tatum will be a star and major contributor this year but for all his talent he is still young and show its, Brown is going to figure his **** out. Once Gordon is fully back this team is going to be steamrolling opponents. So for that we need to be patient still, he's been an afterthought so far and we're underselling what he's going to bring to this team because of this horrific injury and its long aftermath. But it's coming, I can see it already.
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Post#334 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:55 am

Kyrie For Three wrote:Celtics love story!!!!

:love: :love: :love:

https://nesn.com/2018/10/how-gordon-haywards-wife-robyn-helped-celtics-forward-after-injury/

Gordon Hayward’s wife wasted no time helping him rehab from his injury.

As you know, the Boston Celtics forward suffered a gruesome ankle dislocation and broken tibia during the team’s game against the Cleveland Cavaliers to open the 2017-18 NBA season. And if it wasn’t for his wife, Robyn Hayward, the All-Star forward may not have began the road to recovery right away.

Robyn put her husband to work quickly. In fact, it started the day Gordon came home from the hospital after his surgery.

“Like I had just gotten back home. I wasn’t mentally ready to start, I guess,” Gordon told the Boston Herald’s Mark Murphy. “I was down the hall throwing a pity party for myself, and she was like, ‘No, no.’ She was just on it, like, ‘Get up. Walk around, you’re supposed to walk around, get up.’”

Robyn told Murphy the doctors wanted Gordon to do arm exercises, so she brought several dumbbells down to Gordon, who was in a hospital bed in the couple’s living room.

“I was like, ‘OK, let’s do those exercises,'” Robyn said. “He was like, ‘I just got home.’ I said I don’t care. That’s what they said, so let’s do it. He was probably like, ‘Get away.’”

It was a long process for Gordon. But he’s back on his feet and ready to step foot in TD Garden for the first time in a Celtics uniform Tuesday when Boston opens up its season against the Philadelphia 76ers.


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Post#335 » by K For Three » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:00 am

SichtingLives wrote:Appreciate everyone keeping up with the Gordons hurt/working his way back threads the past year but it's time to talk about Gordon's role on the basketball court and his future impact as a leader of this team.

We pined for his playmaking ability last year and sure enough we damn sure still need it. He is rounding into form physically, probably another month to go, maybe a bit more before the explosion, lift and confidence are solid (and longer still to truly finish the process of recovery), and still a minutes restriction which in turn is ****** up rotations, but I see him, Al and Kyrie as the most important pieces of this team just like we thought in the first place. The notions of "we'll take what we can get" and ok if he's some form of a role player chatter have lingered too long and its time to stop tempering expectations. If we are going to succeed, we will need the Gordon we paid for and by damn it I do believe that's the Gordon we'll get sooner than not.

We were all robbed of the opportunity to see what a Gordon led team would look like last year and with so many cats now out of the bag we may have forgotten that we signed a legit all-star level 2nd option player in his prime. His role is going to be huge once he is physically capable of shouldering the load and feels fully recovered. Incredibly smart and centered player. Too much talk about the other guys, especially the young guys. They'll be fine. Tatum will be a star and major contributor this year but for all his talent he is still young and show its, Brown is going to figure his **** out. Once Gordon is fully back this team is going to be steamrolling opponents. So for that we need to be patient still, he's been an afterthought so far and we're underselling what he's going to bring to this team because of this horrific injury and its long aftermath. But it's coming, I can see it already.


My bold prediction for the playoffs is that Gordon will be the Celtics BEST all around player. Kyrie second then Tatum/Al.
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Post#336 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:08 am

There's no reason he shouldn't at least be a solid above average starter at the very least
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Post#337 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:47 pm

Impressed by how smart Hayward is, and how he’s finding sneaky ways to score to compensate for his lack of vertical lift - he had a couple of scores against Detroit where he used his speed to create separation and then adjusted the timing on his release.
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Post#338 » by Valid » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:21 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Impressed by how smart Hayward is, and how he’s finding sneaky ways to score to compensate for his lack of vertical lift - he had a couple of scores against Detroit where he used his speed to create separation and then adjusted the timing on his release.

That finish over Drummond was incredibly impressive.
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Post#339 » by Jaqua92 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:37 pm

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Kyrie For Three wrote:He admits though that his ankle is sore when he plays but it sounds like it is considered normal and could pass with time this year.

https://clutchpoints.com/celtics-news-gordon-hayward-admits-ankle-soreness-after-every-game-will-be-an-issue-for-a-while/

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Hopefully this isn't an issue down the road but I would bet he feels something almost always since his body is still adjusting.

I think my ankle sometimes hurts just thinking about what happened to him last October.


Im not a doctor but I wouldnt be surprised if the soreness is just from inactivity on that ankle. Just like if you havent worked out a muscle in a long time, the first few times you work it out it is really sore. I wouldnt be shocked if this is similar just to a far greater extent. Im sure if it was something the doctors werent expecting, he wouldve been shut down.
I can vouch. I was paralyzed for about 2 months this summer with Guillian Barre. In my last week of rehab now, home, and finally am jogging again. Soreness and tightness everytime I do something.

And thats only a few months of inactivity. Gordon's ankle will absolutely loosen up.

He's looked good

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Post#340 » by Andrew McCeltic » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:51 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Impressed by how smart Hayward is, and how he’s finding sneaky ways to score to compensate for his lack of vertical lift - he had a couple of scores against Detroit where he used his speed to create separation and then adjusted the timing on his release.

That finish over Drummond was incredibly impressive.


Yeah, that and a transition play where he jetted under the rim for a reverse layup - I’ve never seen a player evolve so rapidly to compensate for an athletic limitation.. starting to get excited for what a healthy Hayward will be able to do - before the injury he was a player who had improved consistently every year

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