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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#321 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:29 pm

djFan71 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Sneaky best part of this trade is that it happened before Phillys game tonight and you know its a distraction for them

lol, that's a stretch man. :)


Big time stretch.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#322 » by ajones9219 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:31 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Sneaky best part of this trade is that it happened before Phillys game tonight and you know its a distraction for them

lol, that's a stretch man. :)


Big time stretch.


Stretch......like Horford hitting a 3 at the top of the key?
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#323 » by meatball sub » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:31 pm

Both Horford & Kemba were malcontents. I think given the salary remaining for both players this is that rare trade where it works out well for both teams.

No more ballhogging getting in the way of Tatum & Brown's development. Time for them to ascend to superstardom.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#324 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:31 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
djFan71 wrote:lol, that's a stretch man. :)


Big time stretch.


Stretch......like Horford hitting a 3 at the top of the key?


Yes, at .400 rate 8-) 8-)
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#325 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:32 pm

meatball sub wrote:Both Horford & Kemba were malcontents. I think given the salary remaining for both players this is that rare trade where it works out well for both teams.

No more ballhogging getting in the way of Tatum & Brown's development. Time for them to ascend to superstardom.


Horford was actually playing pretty dang well. The Thunder were winning games, so they pulled the plug on him.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#326 » by meatball sub » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:33 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
meatball sub wrote:Both Horford & Kemba were malcontents. I think given the salary remaining for both players this is that rare trade where it works out well for both teams.

No more ballhogging getting in the way of Tatum & Brown's development. Time for them to ascend to superstardom.


Horford was actually playing pretty dang well. The Thunder were winning games, so they pulled the plug on him.


Yep, that's why he was upset. They weren't gonna be able to keep him around when they told him to go home while he was trying to win.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#327 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:34 pm

After thinking about it I still don't like the trade but IF it leads to another trade THIS summer than the jury is still out.

But if this is a trade that I'm expected to believe helps us land someone in free agency next year then I outright reject that theory.
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Post#328 » by Jingles » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:43 pm

playa-hater wrote:The need for a PG is being way overstated *IF Boston resigns Fournier. Tatum, Fournier are all ball needy yet play-makers (Tatum's continued improvement) with Smart and PP easily able to fill in the Gaps.

I still want another another shooting scoring 3-4 type.


I’m cool with not chasing a true point guard per se but they definitely need some team speed. That scoring wing would ideally be someone who can break a man down off the dribble. Sorely lacking in that area even at full health (it’s Jaylen and ???).
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Post#329 » by TroubleS0me » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:46 pm

lol this is an we miss you type of Hortford trade
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Post#330 » by Spin Move » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:11 pm

I hate this, Kemba would have been easy to trade as an expiring in the offseason. Yes it saves 30 million if we cut horford next year but we paid to move a contract of a guy who put up 20 5 and 4 after the all star break last year.

Oklahoma City will let him score a ton and absolutly trade him for positive value when he is an expiring. This is such a short cited move to save a little luxary tax money and leaves us with fewer assest to attract a real third star.

I HATE this trade. Brad Stevens just got taken advantage of by Same Presti.

Brown is solid he is worth a late 1st but we couldnt even get OKC to send back one of the later low ist round picks? Bad deal
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#331 » by LenBiasRIP » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:21 pm

Spin Move wrote:I hate this, Kemba would have been easy to trade as an expiring in the offseason. Yes it saves 30 million if we cut horford next year but we paid to move a contract of a guy who put up 20 5 and 4 after the all star break last year.

Oklahoma City will let him score a ton and absolutly trade him for positive value when he is an expiring. This is such a short cited move to save a little luxary tax money and leaves us with fewer assest to attract a real third star.

I HATE this trade. Brad Stevens just got taken advantage of by Same Presti.

Brown is solid he is worth a late 1st but we couldnt even get OKC to send back one of the later low ist round picks? Bad deal


If a guy can't play in back to back games and can't be counted on to play when he's needed the most, kudos to Brad for getting at least something back for a legit part time player. No hate on Kemba...he's a class act but no way he's worth the money still left on his deal.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#332 » by CeltsFlow » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:35 pm

Just realized Al and Tristan are teammates now after all the tough times he gave him on the Cavs :lol:. For how long remains to be seen, but I find it amusing as hell
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#333 » by ParticleMan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:35 pm

Spin Move wrote:I hate this, Kemba would have been easy to trade as an expiring in the offseason. Yes it saves 30 million if we cut horford next year but we paid to move a contract of a guy who put up 20 5 and 4 after the all star break last year.

Oklahoma City will let him score a ton and absolutly trade him for positive value when he is an expiring. This is such a short cited move to save a little luxary tax money and leaves us with fewer assest to attract a real third star.

I HATE this trade. Brad Stevens just got taken advantage of by Same Presti.

Brown is solid he is worth a late 1st but we couldnt even get OKC to send back one of the later low ist round picks? Bad deal


when kemba's knee keeps flaring up and they're stuck paying 38 mil for a guy who can barely play half the games, we'll see how much of a genius presti is then. the only thing smart about this move from presti is that kemba is a #1 tank commander.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#334 » by grantlongforpresident » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:43 pm

I’m a big fan of this trade. I love Kemba but he just wasn’t a fit.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#335 » by 1st banana » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:43 pm

Wow brad wasting little time making a mild splash here. I know everyone hates kemba and he smiles a lot but I can’t help but feel sad he didn’t work out and feel bad for him being back in purgatory with a **** team.

I think the trade will work out tho al will fit right back in even Moses Malone I mean brown is quietly pretty good basically whiteside with a brain and more effort. Not to mention he ate us for lunch in that game this year.

Now let’s package Tristan and grant for a backup point and possibly a 3D guy.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#336 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:52 pm

ddb wrote:
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ddb wrote:an underrated element to all of this is how it now seems more obvious than ever that there was a major disconnect between Brad & Danny over the Horford/Kemba situation a couple years ago. Today's trade has a lot to do with $$ and flexibility, but there's also an element of Brad bringing back a player I don't think he ever wanted to lose in the first place.


Don’t think there’s much evidence for that. Kemba for Horford has been talked about for a year.


When Kyrie bolted 2 years ago I was told that Brad preferred to keep Al, whereas DA wanted to bring in Kemba instead and roll with Theis/Kanter at C. Brad felt like the young players responded really well to Al's leadership and Al was a bridge from coach to young players.

Let's not forget the team came within a 4th quarter of making the NBA finals with rookie Tatum, 2nd year Brown, Rozier, Smart, Morris and Horford. Horford is the type of player that does so much that doesn't show up in the box score. His impact goes beyond what the common fan can see.
$$ and age aside, I still like this move even if we'r only talking about Kemba for Al. Al never has been a high flyer....He plays an old school game that features a high Bball IQ, underrated passing skills, ability to stretch the floor, terrific communication skills, and leadership on and off the floor.
This team will immediately be better simply by having Horford back on the floor.


Huh, interesting. We were probably better off in year 1. But I think the excitement of a max free agent, the desire to replace Kyrie and cushion the blow of losing a star, the value of Kemba’s scoring, personality and leadership were absolutely overvalued. We all knew that at the time but were caught up in the moment. It always seemed like there was an incentive, too, to keep winning momentum so that Brown and Tatum would stay committed to the franchise.
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Post#337 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:55 pm

Can see Rob Williams getting dealt now.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#338 » by Bad-Thoma » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:56 pm

1st banana wrote:Wow brad wasting little time making a mild splash here. I know everyone hates kemba and he smiles a lot but I can’t help but feel sad he didn’t work out and feel bad for him being back in purgatory with a **** team.

I think the trade will work out tho al will fit right back in even Moses Malone I mean brown is quietly pretty good basically whiteside with a brain and more effort. Not to mention he ate us for lunch in that game this year.

Now let’s package Tristan and grant for a backup point and possibly a 3D guy.


Not everyone hates Kemba, I actually still really like him. His contract vs. how often he could actually play just turned into an anchor so finding a way to shed it was a good move. Horford is a better fit even if he's old and he's on a smaller contract and picking up Brown is nice, at worse he's a good back up big for when Timelord can't play which up till now has been far too often.
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Post#339 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:58 pm

We traded a guy who couldnt play in the playoffs for a guy who could.
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Re: Celtics trade Kemba Walker for Al Horford 

Post#340 » by BillessuR6 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:01 pm

I am just glad Kemba is gone. Hated him on the Celtics. Now we do not have to watch that silly smile anymore...

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