Welcome to Virtual Boston, Juhann Begarin!

[jfs1000d]

Reminds me of a thybulle type. Bring him here, or let him develop. Does it matter? Interested in Mader .


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[jfs1000d]

I thought Begarin was ready last year. He will have a shot at making the roster. Maybe h does, maybe he doesn't. Depends on how the money works out, etc. But he certainly has way more upside than anyone outside the top 9. So is another year in Europe best for him, or the Boston-Portland shuttle?

I keep him in Europe one more year. Then bring him on a two way for 2 years.

Nba has gotten a lot more developmental. You got to have guys in the pipeline.


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[LewisnotMiller]

He's not even 20 years old. It's probably best for him to play a couple more years in Europe than live in a literally cold and forbidding place while being alone in an unfamiliar country and making crap salary as a 20 year old.

Bring him to Australia. Worked okay for Dieng and Besson this past year. (And Travers, but I was just listing Frenchmen)

[poopship]

His contract with Paris has expired? I hope he doesn't go to the corruption riddled two-team deep Adriatic league like Yam.

[sam_I_am]

The longer we can keep his rights without having to sign him to a contract the better. He doesn’t appear ready for NBA and if that is still true don’t waste a year of his rookie contract. His value to this team is as a bench player who can contribute with a team friendly contract. If he proves to be capable of that after this SL, great, sign him. Otherwise let the stash continue.

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The longer we can keep his rights without having to sign him to a contract the better. He doesn’t appear ready for NBA and if that is still true don’t waste a year of his rookie contract. His value to this team is as a bench player who can contribute with a team friendly contract. If he proves to be capable of that after this SL, great, sign him. Otherwise let the stash continue.

Yup, there's no rush. He's only 19 and Madar is only 21.

The Spurs kept Ginobili stashed overseas til he was 25.

[31to6]

The longer we can keep his rights without having to sign him to a contract the better. He doesn’t appear ready for NBA and if that is still true don’t waste a year of his rookie contract. His value to this team is as a bench player who can contribute with a team friendly contract. If he proves to be capable of that after this SL, great, sign him. Otherwise let the stash continue.

I appreciate your strategic thinking here, but on the other hand Begarin’s current competition for roster spots includes Fitts, Ryan, Brodric Thomas, and Washed Castillo.

I’d rather get him into our system and playing against Jaylen and Marcus however many times this team practices (used to say “every day” but no longer).

[sam_I_am]

The longer we can keep his rights without having to sign him to a contract the better. He doesn’t appear ready for NBA and if that is still true don’t waste a year of his rookie contract. His value to this team is as a bench player who can contribute with a team friendly contract. If he proves to be capable of that after this SL, great, sign him. Otherwise let the stash continue.

I appreciate your strategic thinking here, but on the other hand Begarin’s current competition for roster spots includes Fitts, Ryan, Brodric Thomas, and Washed Castillo.

I’d rather get him into our system and playing against Jaylen and Marcus however many times this team practices (used to say “every day” but no longer).

Let’s see him outplay those guys first. It’s far from a given that he can.

[31to6]

The longer we can keep his rights without having to sign him to a contract the better. He doesn’t appear ready for NBA and if that is still true don’t waste a year of his rookie contract. His value to this team is as a bench player who can contribute with a team friendly contract. If he proves to be capable of that after this SL, great, sign him. Otherwise let the stash continue.

I appreciate your strategic thinking here, but on the other hand Begarin’s current competition for roster spots includes Fitts, Ryan, Brodric Thomas, and Washed Castillo.

I’d rather get him into our system and playing against Jaylen and Marcus however many times this team practices (used to say “every day” but no longer).

Let’s see him outplay those guys first. It’s far from a given that he can.

Sure. I actually kind of like Fitts and Thomas, FWIW, and wish Ime’d actually played them. Too much deadweight on our roster in the end last season.

[FlatearthZorro]

I hope he gets a chance. He's a very interesting prospect. It all depends on what happens with the roster.

[cl2117]

I appreciate your strategic thinking here, but on the other hand Begarin’s current competition for roster spots includes Fitts, Ryan, Brodric Thomas, and Washed Castillo.

I’d rather get him into our system and playing against Jaylen and Marcus however many times this team practices (used to say “every day” but no longer).

Let’s see him outplay those guys first. It’s far from a given that he can.

Sure. I actually kind of like Fitts and Thomas, FWIW, and wish Ime’d actually played them. Too much deadweight on our roster in the end last season.

Given the run we had last season I'd expect some of those guys to get replaced with ring chasers as well, so lots less deadweight on the roster.

Also makes it a lot more difficult for a project like Begarin to get minutes if you've got a reasonably decent vet on the bench waiting for the nod to get whatever limited minutes are available for him.

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[Smart2Nesmith43]

I was very happy to see Begarin play this well in summer league. Obviously it's a small sample size that's ripe for overreaction but one thing that feels real is his improvement at the line. The form looks much smoother than it did even a couple months ago playing for Paris and I don't think that's a coincidence that he shot 77% from the line this summer league after shooting 56% last season for Paris. Maybe he's been a little hot for the last 5 games and he is not totally there yet as a legit 77% guy from the line but I feel very comfortable saying he's not a 56% shooter anymore either.

Now it's time for the totally unreasonable overreaction. It's easy to forget how young he is because he was drafted last year but he doesn't turn 20 for another month and he's still younger than most guys drafted this year. In fact the list of players that are both younger than him and scored at a higher PPG is Kuminga and Banchero. That's it. He also had a better FG% than either of those guys and rebounded better despite playing more on the perimeter.

[steefP2]

Jaylen and Juhann have identical height without shoes and wingspan fwiw

[165bows]

The longer we can keep his rights without having to sign him to a contract the better. He doesn’t appear ready for NBA and if that is still true don’t waste a year of his rookie contract. His value to this team is as a bench player who can contribute with a team friendly contract. If he proves to be capable of that after this SL, great, sign him. Otherwise let the stash continue.

Yup, there's no rush. He's only 19 and Madar is only 21.

The Spurs kept Ginobili stashed overseas til he was 25.

What happened to Yam this summer? He didn't play summer league to do Eurocup but looks like those were over in early June? Were there other games he was in that don't show up anywhere? Looks like he played three games early June but don't see anything beyond that.

[playa-hater]

The question isn't can Begarin be a good NBA player anymore IMO. He has talent. the only question is he better off developing that talent overseas?? Or in our G-league + Boston on a 2 way. Yes I know we have 2 signed on a 2 ay already nit Gele can be upgraded.

I also am aware Begarin's NBA clock would start stateside. But I wonder if playing overseas can give him a false positive by always relying on driving in (where the interior defense is inferior) vs really learning the nuances of a complete player.

Just my thoughts. Not really sure other than I like his talents.

[Parliament10]

The question isn't can Begarin be a good NBA player anymore IMO. He has talent. the only question is he better off developing that talent overseas?? Or in our G-league + Boston on a 2 way. Yes I know we have 2 signed on a 2 ay already nit Gele can be upgraded.

I also am aware Begarin's NBA clock would start stateside. But I wonder if playing overseas can give him a false positive by always relying on driving in (where the interior defense is inferior) vs really learning the nuances of a complete player.

Just my thoughts. Not really sure other than I like his talents.

I think that we should give him an Exhibit 10, for the time being. Have Begarin come to Training Camp, and better evaluate him.
After TC we can either:

1) Send him back Overseas (Which I doubt that he'll agree with.);
2) Upgrade him to a Two-Way (after moving someone off of one.);
3) Give him a Full NBA Spot (Which seems unlikely, but possible.).

[Gomes3PC]

Jaylen and Juhann have identical height without shoes and wingspan fwiw

For his age it looks like Juhann has more bulk on his frame too. I suspect given Jaylen has played plenty of SF that Begarin could really slot into either the 2 or the 3 for us as a backup. We really don't have that kind of guy on the roster right now - we have Grant/Gallo up front, Brogdon is a 1/2, PP is a 1, White is a 1/2. Smart can moonlight on the wing but he's really a guard.

Hauser and Begarin IMO both deserve long looks because on nights where we want to rest Jaylen or Jayson, we will need help with a true wing body vs. playing either a big out of position or a guard out of position.

[Scoonie]

Jaylen and Juhann have identical height without shoes and wingspan fwiw

Wrong, Brown is a little taller (not by much, though).

Juhann Begarin measured 6'4.75" in bare feet in the 2021 NBA Combine. https://www.nbadraft.net/players/juhann-begarin/

Jaylen Brown measured 6'5.25" in bare feet at the 2017 NBA Draft Combine: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?SeasonYear=2016-17

However, both did have an identical 6'11.75" wingspan.

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Jaylen and Juhann have identical height without shoes and wingspan fwiw

Wrong, Brown is a little taller (not by much, though).

Juhann Begarin measured 6'4.75" in bare feet in the 2021 NBA Combine. https://www.nbadraft.net/players/juhann-begarin/

Jaylen Brown measured 6'5.25" in bare feet at the 2017 NBA Draft Combine: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/?SeasonYear=2016-17

However, both did have an identical 6'11.75" wingspan.

well yeah but you'll never see an official roster list players with the quarter inches and 3 quarter inches and stuff. Typically, they round up if the player measures a half inch over. So on an official roster that would list both of them as 6'5" in bare feet.