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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread – (EC - PotW - Wk 1) 

Post#321 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Dec 3, 2024 10:09 pm

JT makes Forbes 30 Under 30 List: https://www.forbes.com/30-under-30/2025/sports

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Post#322 » by brackdan70 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 11:41 pm

I am hoping to make the 6000000000 under 60 list.
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Post#323 » by djFan71 » Wed Dec 4, 2024 1:27 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:5th PotM for Tatum, breaking tie with Pierce. Two away from Bird.

Also 2 away from Bird in the number that really matters.
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Post#325 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 4, 2024 8:07 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:JT makes Forbes 30 Under 30 List: https://www.forbes.com/30-under-30/2025/sports

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Post#327 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Dec 4, 2024 8:26 am

If JT maintains his scoring pace (and not miss a game), he'll end up 5th in most points before turning 27. Behind Lebron, KD, Melo, and Kobe.

He's already on the short list with those 4 guys as the only players with 15,000+ regular season + playoff points before turning 27.
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Post#328 » by Bar Fight » Sun Dec 8, 2024 5:32 am

I'm just over this guy's inconsistency scoring/efficiency wise at this point. Jokic and SGA give you an efficient 30+ every single night, with very rare outliers while I gotta watch JT have a complete brickfest shooting night at least once every 3 games. The MVP seems unattainable with the level of play of other superstars in this league
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Post#329 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 9:36 am

Bar Fight wrote:I'm just over this guy's inconsistency scoring/efficiency wise at this point. Jokic and SGA give you an efficient 30+ every single night, with very rare outliers while I gotta watch JT have a complete brickfest shooting night at least once every 3 games. The MVP seems unattainable with the level of play of other superstars in this league

30+ point games this season
Tatum 12 out of 23
SGA 11 out of 23
Jokic 9 out of 18
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Post#330 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Dec 8, 2024 10:13 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:I'm just over this guy's inconsistency scoring/efficiency wise at this point. Jokic and SGA give you an efficient 30+ every single night, with very rare outliers while I gotta watch JT have a complete brickfest shooting night at least once every 3 games. The MVP seems unattainable with the level of play of other superstars in this league

30+ point games this season
Tatum 12 out of 23
SGA 11 out of 23
Jokic 9 out of 18


Efficiency-wise, he is the worst among the 3. Can't defend him there. If they can find a way to turn some of his stepback 3s to C&S, I'd be a happy camper. His % at the rim is by far his career high but I'm unsure how much I'd want him expending energy and risking injury getting to the rim ala-Giannis or prime Lebron.

Sub-League Average TS% Games:
Tatum: 11 out of 23
SGA: 9 out of 23
Jokic: 6 out of 18
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Post#331 » by Fierce1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 11:11 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:I'm just over this guy's inconsistency scoring/efficiency wise at this point. Jokic and SGA give you an efficient 30+ every single night, with very rare outliers while I gotta watch JT have a complete brickfest shooting night at least once every 3 games. The MVP seems unattainable with the level of play of other superstars in this league

30+ point games this season
Tatum 12 out of 23
SGA 11 out of 23
Jokic 9 out of 18


Efficiency-wise, he is the worst among the 3. Can't defend him there. If they can find a way to turn some of his stepback 3s to C&S, I'd be a happy camper. His % at the rim is by far his career high but I'm unsure how much I'd want him expending energy and risking injury getting to the rim ala-Giannis or prime Lebron.

Sub-League Average TS% Games:
Tatum: 11 out of 23
SGA: 9 out of 23
Jokic: 6 out of 18

Exactly!

All that attacking the rim, getting hit, and sometimes falling down is a disaster waiting to happen.
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread – (EC - POTM = Oct/Nov. 2024) 

Post#332 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 12:54 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:I'm just over this guy's inconsistency scoring/efficiency wise at this point. Jokic and SGA give you an efficient 30+ every single night, with very rare outliers while I gotta watch JT have a complete brickfest shooting night at least once every 3 games. The MVP seems unattainable with the level of play of other superstars in this league

30+ point games this season
Tatum 12 out of 23
SGA 11 out of 23
Jokic 9 out of 18


Efficiency-wise, he is the worst among the 3. Can't defend him there. If they can find a way to turn some of his stepback 3s to C&S, I'd be a happy camper. His % at the rim is by far his career high but I'm unsure how much I'd want him expending energy and risking injury getting to the rim ala-Giannis or prime Lebron.

Sub-League Average TS% Games:
Tatum: 11 out of 23
SGA: 9 out of 23
Jokic: 6 out of 18

Cool story but Bar Fight's original point is that SGA and Jokic crank out efficient 30+ games every night and Tatum doesn't. Meanwhile in the real world, games of 30+ points and 60+ TS%: Jokic 9, SGA and Tatum 8. There's plenty stuff that SGA and Jokic do better on a basketball court, just talk about that instead of lying to put down Tatum.
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Post#333 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Dec 8, 2024 1:05 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:30+ point games this season
Tatum 12 out of 23
SGA 11 out of 23
Jokic 9 out of 18


Efficiency-wise, he is the worst among the 3. Can't defend him there. If they can find a way to turn some of his stepback 3s to C&S, I'd be a happy camper. His % at the rim is by far his career high but I'm unsure how much I'd want him expending energy and risking injury getting to the rim ala-Giannis or prime Lebron.

Sub-League Average TS% Games:
Tatum: 11 out of 23
SGA: 9 out of 23
Jokic: 6 out of 18

Cool story but Bar Fight's original point is that SGA and Jokic crank out efficient 30+ games every night and Tatum doesn't. Meanwhile in the real world, games of 30+ points and 60+ TS%: Jokic 9, SGA and Tatum 8. There's plenty stuff that SGA and Jokic do better on a basketball court, just talk about that instead of lying to put down Tatum.

Then you should've just answered with that in the first place? What you pointed out was 30-pt games so I added the efficiency bit whether it's 30 pts or whatever random cutoff anyone wants to attach to them.

Fact of the matter is, Jokic and SGA have been more efficient than Tatum whether it's for the full season or per game basis. So I'm not lying there.
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread – (EC - POTM = Oct/Nov. 2024) 

Post#334 » by Bar Fight » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:26 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:30+ point games this season
Tatum 12 out of 23
SGA 11 out of 23
Jokic 9 out of 18


Efficiency-wise, he is the worst among the 3. Can't defend him there. If they can find a way to turn some of his stepback 3s to C&S, I'd be a happy camper. His % at the rim is by far his career high but I'm unsure how much I'd want him expending energy and risking injury getting to the rim ala-Giannis or prime Lebron.

Sub-League Average TS% Games:
Tatum: 11 out of 23
SGA: 9 out of 23
Jokic: 6 out of 18

Cool story but Bar Fight's original point is that SGA and Jokic crank out efficient 30+ games every night and Tatum doesn't. Meanwhile in the real world, games of 30+ points and 60+ TS%: Jokic 9, SGA and Tatum 8. There's plenty stuff that SGA and Jokic do better on a basketball court, just talk about that instead of lying to put down Tatum.

And scoring efficiently is among them. Which was ultimately my point lol. If you want to get technical and count the exact times they’ve scored 30, go for it. They are averaging 30 a night on extremely high efficiency with very few (almost none) 6-21 stinkers. While JT seems to have those type of shooting nights like once every 2-3 games
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread – (EC - POTM = Oct/Nov. 2024) 

Post#335 » by Shak_Celts » Sun Dec 8, 2024 5:17 pm

Gil nem saying Tatum isn’t getting accolades because he’s BORING? What the hell you talking bout? Why does Jok win?? I don’t know why Tatum isn’t respected in the league, but sales don’t lie, his shoes and jerseys sell like fire! He’s extremely popular! The fans vote for him!!

It has nothing to do with how he plays because the fans obviously love it! They are BS me! They are pushing soft? Kiss my…

The only thing he hasn’t won is MVP. The media is the problem! Idk why they do it, but that’s the real answer!

Ok Gil came through at the end, soft narrative is HORSE CACA!! Plays all the time through injuries like LBJ, dunks, gets buckets, defends and is clutch. They had no answer for why he’s soft just like some of the people here.

THE MEDIA is the problem!!!!!
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Post#336 » by Bar Fight » Sun Dec 8, 2024 6:31 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:Gil nem saying Tatum isn’t getting accolades because he’s BORING? What the hell you talking bout? Why does Jok win?? I don’t know why Tatum isn’t respected in the league, but sales don’t lie, his shoes and jerseys sell like fire! He’s extremely popular! The fans vote for him!!

It has nothing to do with how he plays because the fans obviously love it! They are BS me! They are pushing soft? Kiss my…

The only thing he hasn’t won is MVP. The media is the problem! Idk why they do it, but that’s the real answer!

Ok Gil came through at the end, soft narrative is HORSE CACA!! Plays all the time through injuries like LBJ, dunks, gets buckets, defends and is clutch. They had no answer for why he’s soft just like some of the people here.

THE MEDIA is the problem!!!!!

He doesn't get MVPs because other players are putting up better numbers on way higher efficiency
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Post#337 » by Shak_Celts » Sun Dec 8, 2024 7:45 pm

Bar Fight wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:Gil nem saying Tatum isn’t getting accolades because he’s BORING? What the hell you talking bout? Why does Jok win?? I don’t know why Tatum isn’t respected in the league, but sales don’t lie, his shoes and jerseys sell like fire! He’s extremely popular! The fans vote for him!!

It has nothing to do with how he plays because the fans obviously love it! They are BS me! They are pushing soft? Kiss my…

The only thing he hasn’t won is MVP. The media is the problem! Idk why they do it, but that’s the real answer!

Ok Gil came through at the end, soft narrative is HORSE CACA!! Plays all the time through injuries like LBJ, dunks, gets buckets, defends and is clutch. They had no answer for why he’s soft just like some of the people here.

THE MEDIA is the problem!!!!!

He doesn't get MVPs because other players are putting up better numbers on way higher efficiency

I wasn’t making that argument. I know why he didn’t win. I’m saying that no one has a problem with Tatum except MEDIA! I said MVP is the only thing he hasn’t won. I said he’s getting all the accolades, but media pushes that he’s soft or not good enough. EVERYTHING says different than the media narrative, he gets sales and fans love the way he plays! He’s extremely popular, but if you only listened to the media he’s boring and soft and not as good as Luka or Ant!
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Post#338 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:27 am

It's a wrap 25 games in. Jokic, unless he gets injured, should win another MVP.
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Post#339 » by Triple7 » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:40 am

Bar Fight wrote:I'm just over this guy's inconsistency scoring/efficiency wise at this point. Jokic and SGA give you an efficient 30+ every single night, with very rare outliers while I gotta watch JT have a complete brickfest shooting night at least once every 3 games. The MVP seems unattainable with the level of play of other superstars in this league


I agree with this. Tatum is just too inconsistent. He will have good games, then give you 1/10 from 3 on the next. He will never win mvp playing like that. He’s got the chuckers mentality. Thinking the next 3 ball would go in. That’s what cost him finals mvp. If he doesn’t have the 3 ball, and he made an effort to take it inside, he would have gotten the award no doubt, even when not being clutch in the playoffs. Guys like Jokic, Giannis, luka and SGA, almost always play the same every game, and putting up outrageous numbers. SGA for a point guard, shoots better percentage than JT. I still think JT’s shot is flawedand needs fixing.
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Post#340 » by Triple7 » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:42 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
Bar Fight wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:Gil nem saying Tatum isn’t getting accolades because he’s BORING? What the hell you talking bout? Why does Jok win?? I don’t know why Tatum isn’t respected in the league, but sales don’t lie, his shoes and jerseys sell like fire! He’s extremely popular! The fans vote for him!!

It has nothing to do with how he plays because the fans obviously love it! They are BS me! They are pushing soft? Kiss my…

The only thing he hasn’t won is MVP. The media is the problem! Idk why they do it, but that’s the real answer!

Ok Gil came through at the end, soft narrative is HORSE CACA!! Plays all the time through injuries like LBJ, dunks, gets buckets, defends and is clutch. They had no answer for why he’s soft just like some of the people here.

THE MEDIA is the problem!!!!!

He doesn't get MVPs because other players are putting up better numbers on way higher efficiency

I wasn’t making that argument. I know why he didn’t win. I’m saying that no one has a problem with Tatum except MEDIA! I said MVP is the only thing he hasn’t won. I said he’s getting all the accolades, but media pushes that he’s soft or not good enough. EVERYTHING says different than the media narrative, he gets sales and fans love the way he plays! He’s extremely popular, but if you only listened to the media he’s boring and soft and not as good as Luka or Ant!


Luka is better than JT on offense. Ant is below JT no matter how the media try so hard to market ant.

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