2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[Shak_Celts]

The Steven Adams deal (3/$39) is a nice model for a KP extension, if he sticks around. KP better, but obviously less available

IIRC Adams has been injury prone for years. I wanted him at one point, then season after season he was down from an injury. He made it through last season tho. He’s always been a solid player when he played.

KP is worth more than 13 a year though, someone will pay him that regardless of past health problems. 13m is pennies in the NBA. Adam’s basically got a minimum contract. I don’t know why people think KP will take a minimum contract. He’ll probably want more, but he can get at least 20, I’m sure he’ll do that on a 1 year deal, before he does 3 for 13m per.

If it happens, I’m coming to say it’s unbelievable and all of you were right. I just can’t see it til it happens.

If I’m Brad, I try to extend him for that or slightly more. He loves playing here, and teams will definitely be scared of the availability. If he doesn’t accept, I trade him. Not worth paying all the taxes on him next year if he’s going to walk or continue to be really expensive going forward. 3/$50M???

16 is better but in 2017, someone will give him 20m. Nets, Charlotte, etc. Someone will pay him more, it really depends on where he wants to be. He needs to stay healthy next season, but even then, he can get good money on a 1 year.

[djFan71]

IIRC Adams has been injury prone for years. I wanted him at one point, then season after season he was down from an injury. He made it through last season tho. He’s always been a solid player when he played.

KP is worth more than 13 a year though, someone will pay him that regardless of past health problems. 13m is pennies in the NBA. Adam’s basically got a minimum contract. I don’t know why people think KP will take a minimum contract. He’ll probably want more, but he can get at least 20, I’m sure he’ll do that on a 1 year deal, before he does 3 for 13m per.

If it happens, I’m coming to say it’s unbelievable and all of you were right. I just can’t see it til it happens.

If I’m Brad, I try to extend him for that or slightly more. He loves playing here, and teams will definitely be scared of the availability. If he doesn’t accept, I trade him. Not worth paying all the taxes on him next year if he’s going to walk or continue to be really expensive going forward. 3/$50M???

16 is better but in 2017, someone will give him 20m. Nets, Charlotte, etc. Someone will pay him more, it really depends on where he wants to be. He needs to stay healthy next season, but even then, he can get good money on a 1 year.

Maybe,but my offer is slightly more than MLE. Which is all that any good team will have to offer. So, he can go play for some bad team for slightly more $ or stay in Boston.

[phincsfan]

Memphis and Orlando took themselves out of "contending for a title so inquire about Jrue" services.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Looking at the haul that Memphis got for Bane, there's simply no need to suffer from a bout of Tradeboarditis and to under value Hauser.

He's an exceptional 3-point shooter with good size, defensively playable into the playoffs, and his salary is infinitesimally small by modern NBA standards.

That all adds up to some sweet Draft Capital!

Not as much as PP or White and with clubs uncertain about the players in the upcoming Eye Of The Beholder Draft, more than ever GMs are looking for already established talent, especially those on breathtakingly minimal NBA contracts.

That is PP in essence and now more than ever is time to cash in on his talent and contract. If Not Pritchard then White, But one of the two should definitely be moved in this most favorable market.

[Riverwalk2021]

If the Celtics trade White, they are not contending the next two seasons as you will not be getting back the better player or fit in a deal. Instead, you are maximizing his current value for LT potential which I suppose is a viable option given Tatum's age. Brown in a bubble is better than White but his fit with Tatum isn't great and his contract is booty. But I would only trade Brown if you're getting back a player or players who can contribute to winning more than Brown. That is not impossible but Brad has to make that call. At the end of the day, both White/Brown stay imo.

Hauser and 1 of Jrue/KP will be gone. Brad's challenge will be to turn Hauser/KP/Jrue into one or two undervalued win now players who are cheaper. I feel this is more likely given teams will be looking to shed long-term money for expiring contracts (KP), acquire cheap spacing (Hauser), or trade for a final piece and culture setter (Jrue).

The other problem is our bench sucks aside from Pritchard who may be forced to start next season but I'd rather play big even if that means starting an inferior player because I like PP off the bench a lot more than starting. Aside from Baylor, we have zero young talent and who knows what will happen with Kornet/Al due to the money issue. I was high on Queta but far less now; just lacks feel and bball iq. The rest aren't worth mentioning.

[Bill Lumbergh]

I agree Orlando is a 5 year playoff team core. Not a 5 year championship core. They just traded their future for a few conference semifinals, maybe.

They'll look different with a healthy Suggs and Wagner next year. They are a very big team size wise all around.

I think Orlando is gonna be a load next year. The East is wide open with us having a bridge year. They really needed shooting, and Bane is a great one. I am intrigued.

[Bill Lumbergh]

we need a Celts trade this week... come on Brad! just take the dang trade machine off the table!

It’s gonna be a little sad not using Orlando in the trade machine any more.

I feel like he's going to make a move before the draft. Get work in early before pieces and players start getting removed from the board.

[The Corey's]

If bane is worth 4 first round picks and a swap, imagine what brown and white are worth?

[The Corey's]

Looking at the haul that Memphis got for Bane, there's simply no need to suffer from a bout of Tradeboarditis and to under value Hauser.

He's an exceptional 3-point shooter with good size, defensively playable into the playoffs, and his salary is infinitesimally small by modern NBA standards.

That all adds up to some sweet Draft Capital!

Not as much as PP or White and with clubs uncertain about the players in the upcoming Eye Of The Beholder Draft, more than ever GMs are looking for already established talent, especially those on breathtakingly minimal NBA contracts.

That is PP in essence and now more than ever is time to cash in on his talent and contract. If Not Pritchard then White, But one of the two should definitely be moved in this most favorable market.

If we are a fan base can't agree that we aren't competing next year then we are cooked.

The year after? How many things have to go right for Tatum to comeback and be the guy he was before the injury in his first full season back? Not to mention Horford will be gone, Jrue will be gone, KP will likely be gone, Brown will be 30, White will be 32.

I just don't see it. This window has shut the **** down and that window slammed closed.

That doesn't even get into the can Joe coach or has he been grifting on massive talent depth for 3 years.

Then on top of that you have to shed a **** ton of salary this year, and stay under that apron going forward while having no ability to add anyone in free agency because you're already over the first apron and not likely in the position to get above the second apron for a really talented player because you don't have the salary to move out without moving one of your big 3.

Everyone will eventually come around to what some of us already see but for now, most of this board is living in fantasy land that they can rebuild on the fly.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Looking at the haul that Memphis got for Bane, there's simply no need to suffer from a bout of Tradeboarditis and to under value Hauser.

He's an exceptional 3-point shooter with good size, defensively playable into the playoffs, and his salary is infinitesimally small by modern NBA standards.

That all adds up to some sweet Draft Capital!

Not as much as PP or White and with clubs uncertain about the players in the upcoming Eye Of The Beholder Draft, more than ever GMs are looking for already established talent, especially those on breathtakingly minimal NBA contracts.

That is PP in essence and now more than ever is time to cash in on his talent and contract. If Not Pritchard then White, But one of the two should definitely be moved in this most favorable market.

If we are a fan base can't agree that we aren't competing next year then we are cooked.

The year after? How many things have to go right for Tatum to comeback and be the guy he was before the injury in his first full season back? Not to mention Horford will be gone, Jrue will be gone, KP will likely be gone, Brown will be 30, White will be 32.

I just don't see it. This window has shut the **** down and that window slammed closed.

That doesn't even get into the can Joe coach or has he been grifting on massive talent depth for 3 years.

Then on top of that you have to shed a **** ton of salary this year, and stay under that apron going forward while having no ability to add anyone in free agency because you're already over the first apron and not likely in the position to get above the second apron for a really talented player because you don't have the salary to move out without moving one of your big 3.

Everyone will eventually come around to what some of us already see but for now, most of this board is living in fantasy land that they can rebuild on the fly.

30 years old isn't old in the NBA.

[The Corey's]

Looking at the haul that Memphis got for Bane, there's simply no need to suffer from a bout of Tradeboarditis and to under value Hauser.

He's an exceptional 3-point shooter with good size, defensively playable into the playoffs, and his salary is infinitesimally small by modern NBA standards.

That all adds up to some sweet Draft Capital!

Not as much as PP or White and with clubs uncertain about the players in the upcoming Eye Of The Beholder Draft, more than ever GMs are looking for already established talent, especially those on breathtakingly minimal NBA contracts.

That is PP in essence and now more than ever is time to cash in on his talent and contract. If Not Pritchard then White, But one of the two should definitely be moved in this most favorable market.

If we are a fan base can't agree that we aren't competing next year then we are cooked.

The year after? How many things have to go right for Tatum to comeback and be the guy he was before the injury in his first full season back? Not to mention Horford will be gone, Jrue will be gone, KP will likely be gone, Brown will be 30, White will be 32.

I just don't see it. This window has shut the **** down and that window slammed closed.

That doesn't even get into the can Joe coach or has he been grifting on massive talent depth for 3 years.

Then on top of that you have to shed a **** ton of salary this year, and stay under that apron going forward while having no ability to add anyone in free agency because you're already over the first apron and not likely in the position to get above the second apron for a really talented player because you don't have the salary to move out without moving one of your big 3.

Everyone will eventually come around to what some of us already see but for now, most of this board is living in fantasy land that they can rebuild on the fly.

30 years old isn't old in the NBA.

That's your take away from the very long post you likely didn't really read?

This is IF that's the year Tatum actually comes back to his full self. KD was out forever and he was never a defensive unit like Tatum. I expect this to be a long process for Tatum.

Brown is already showing signs of decline. This was not a very good year for him and all that weight training, instead of ball handling drills really caught up to him.

How long do you want to keep Brown before he becomes a declining asset?

They can keep their big three and try and hang around for one last dance, or they can get ahead of it before they **** them self.

Waiting until Brown is in the last year of his contract would be a disservice to your team.

[playa-hater]

Just because 1 team paid a very large Price for Bane, doesn't mean other teams will "overpay" or pay a "Larger amount" than what Memphis received. Brown and White may be the better players, but that is far from Boston being able to get "even more" for Brown and White. If it happens then great. But I just don't see it..

[The Corey's]

Just because 1 team paid a very large Price for Bane, doesn't mean other teams will "overpay" or pay a "Larger amount" than what Memphis received. Brown and White may be the better players, but that is far from Boston being able to get "even more" for Brown and White. If it happens then great. But I just don't see it..

It certainly doesn't mean they won't over pay for them. They absolutely will mine a better deal than what you just saw. That's a deal Orlando would of paid for white and Brown over bane this very day.

[playa-hater]

Just because 1 team paid a very large Price for Bane, doesn't mean other teams will "overpay" or pay a "Larger amount" than what Memphis received. Brown and White may be the better players, but that is far from Boston being able to get "even more" for Brown and White. If it happens then great. But I just don't see it..

It certainly doesn't mean they won't over pay for them. They absolutely will mine a better deal than what you just saw. That's a deal Orlando would of paid for white and Brown over bane this very day.

So are you saying Orlando would have Paid 4 1sts, 1 pick swap and Cole Anthony for White? If Yes we should have done it.

[The Corey's]

Just because 1 team paid a very large Price for Bane, doesn't mean other teams will "overpay" or pay a "Larger amount" than what Memphis received. Brown and White may be the better players, but that is far from Boston being able to get "even more" for Brown and White. If it happens then great. But I just don't see it..

It certainly doesn't mean they won't over pay for them. They absolutely will mine a better deal than what you just saw. That's a deal Orlando would of paid for white and Brown over bane this very day.

So are you saying Orlando would have Paid 4 1sts, 1 pick swap and Cole Anthony for White? If Yes we should have done it.

White is a more valuable player than Bane and has climbed to one of the better players in the league since coming to Boston.

What is Bane doing that White isn't?

White is no scrub. Look what we got for Smart. If Smart is worth 2 FRP and KP I can only imagine what Stevens can get for White.

[CelticFaninLBC]

If we are a fan base can't agree that we aren't competing next year then we are cooked.

The year after? How many things have to go right for Tatum to comeback and be the guy he was before the injury in his first full season back? Not to mention Horford will be gone, Jrue will be gone, KP will likely be gone, Brown will be 30, White will be 32.

I just don't see it. This window has shut the **** down and that window slammed closed.

That doesn't even get into the can Joe coach or has he been grifting on massive talent depth for 3 years.

Then on top of that you have to shed a **** ton of salary this year, and stay under that apron going forward while having no ability to add anyone in free agency because you're already over the first apron and not likely in the position to get above the second apron for a really talented player because you don't have the salary to move out without moving one of your big 3.

Everyone will eventually come around to what some of us already see but for now, most of this board is living in fantasy land that they can rebuild on the fly.

30 years old isn't old in the NBA.

That's your take away from the very long post you likely didn't really read?

This is IF that's the year Tatum actually comes back to his full self. KD was out forever and he was never a defensive unit like Tatum. I expect this to be a long process for Tatum.

Brown is already showing signs of decline. This was not a very good year for him and all that weight training, instead of ball handling drills really caught up to him.

How long do you want to keep Brown before he becomes a declining asset?

They can keep their big three and try and hang around for one last dance, or they can get ahead of it before they **** them self.

Waiting until Brown is in the last year of his contract would be a disservice to your team.

Im in support of trading Jaylen for Giannis. Not in support of dealing Jaylen for draft picks...

[The Corey's]

30 years old isn't old in the NBA.

That's your take away from the very long post you likely didn't really read?

This is IF that's the year Tatum actually comes back to his full self. KD was out forever and he was never a defensive unit like Tatum. I expect this to be a long process for Tatum.

Brown is already showing signs of decline. This was not a very good year for him and all that weight training, instead of ball handling drills really caught up to him.

How long do you want to keep Brown before he becomes a declining asset?

They can keep their big three and try and hang around for one last dance, or they can get ahead of it before they **** them self.

Waiting until Brown is in the last year of his contract would be a disservice to your team.

Im in support of trading Jaylen for Giannis. Not in support of dealing Jaylen for draft picks...

If you could do that trade then do it. But it's a sideways move for Giannis at the moment because without Tatum, they don't have the horses to win.

Brown is gonna be shipped to whatever team loses out on Giannis. I think if everyone is honest with them self they know this.

[redslastlaugh]

If bane is worth 4 first round picks and a swap, imagine what brown and white are worth?

It's an interesting question. Bane is 3+ years younger than White. And Brown is owed quite a bit more money than Bane.
In this trade Memphis also took $57 million in bad dough back from Orlando

You wonder if Brad was offering Derrick White to Orlando with the same willingness to take back KCP and Cole Anthony for the 4 first round picks, would ORL prefer Bane or White?
I have no clue.

[phincsfan]

My wish is a lottery pick this draft.
A White package can get that done.
Given a few teams in the lottery
Are also contenders.

Rockets get White

C’s get #10, Sheppard, Holiday, 27’ 1st, 28’ 1st swap option 29 1st

Draft Queen

Trade #28 for more assets and financial ease.

They’ll start the season over the 2nd apron but Sheppard and Rico can replace Hauser who can be moved around the deadline.

C’s get a potential 5 in Queen for the next bunch of years while still being a playoff contender next season.

Reed could be another high upside guy on a good contract.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Another thought about today's trade; Bane's market and return say nothing about Jrue's, imo.