Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason?

cloverleaf · Post #341 » by **cloverleaf** » Thu May 17, 2018 11:35 am

ballup wrote:Something that ticks me off is how Jaylen‘s perceived ceiling by the general masses is a high end 3 and D player. What does that even mean? He already can attack the basket off the dribble and has some low-high post game.

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His improvement both by the start of the season and through it has been an eye opener. The way he came through from the 3 IMO says he will fix and come through next year at the FT line too. And then look out on his scoring--as he'll be able to do a lot more to get to them more once they become a money shot for him.

I'm sorry, but he still will likely never be at JT's ultimate level. But he will likely improve on his assists and continue to see the whole game better the more he plays. I don't trade him for anyone short of AD, which isn't happening, and am very glad to have him for the next decade for how he complements the rest of the team with his role.

jfs1000d · Post #342 » by **jfs1000d** » Thu May 17, 2018 12:54 pm

This guy is a powerful 2-guard. Handle got better. Shooting off the charts. Can drive and finish.

I do t know what more you need. The only reason he won’t average 22 PPG next year is we are loaded with scorers.

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Post #343 » by **tlee324** » Thu May 17, 2018 1:09 pm

What he's doing now, I expected in year 3. Really hoping he keeps moving forward. He's becoming an excellent two way player right before our eyes.

sam_I_am · Post #344 » by **sam_I_am** » Fri May 18, 2018 4:14 pm

When Kawhi won a title with Spurs and beat Lebron in finals playing with Duncan/Ginobilli/Parker he averaged 17.8/6.4/2 and shot 61% FG and 58% 3pt. Right now against Lebron, Jalen Brown is averaging 23/7/2 on 53% FG and 46% 3pt.

So yeah.... he is untradeable!

TheMartian · Post #345 » by **TheMartian** » Fri May 18, 2018 4:59 pm

I like his shooting form better than Tatum's, plus he has a quicker release. Imagine if Brad didn't hold him back (i.e. benching him for long stretches like in game 2). I think he's capable of doing a lot more damage if given the chance, and I like his attitude and alpha mentality. Kid's gonna be real special real soon.

Jaqua92 · Post #346 » by **Jaqua92** » Fri May 18, 2018 7:52 pm

Anyone noticed how fast he is in the open court?

Green_teamer · Post #347 » by **Green_teamer** » Fri May 18, 2018 7:53 pm

He's going to be the lebron james of our generation.

Jaqua92 · Post #348 » by **Jaqua92** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:01 pm

Green_teamer wrote:He's going to be the lebron james of our generation.

He wont.

Maybe in athleticism

Green_teamer · Post #349 » by **Green_teamer** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:07 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:He's going to be the lebron james of our generation.

He wont.

Maybe in athleticism

Nah fam I'm fully drinking the kool-aid at this point. He's a better shooter than bron and he has a killer instinct. If he improves his handles and his free throws the skys the limit. His playmaking has improved as well. Of course I'm being a massive homer here.. but I don't see anything keeping him from being great besides being on too loaded of a team to get that big of an opportunity.

But you can tell he has that it factor. He wants to be great . That goes a long way

Jaqua92 · Post #350 » by **Jaqua92** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:35 pm

Green_teamer wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:He's going to be the lebron james of our generation.

He wont.

Maybe in athleticism

Nah fam I'm fully drinking the kool-aid at this point. He's a better shooter than bron and he has a killer instinct. If he improves his handles and his free throws the skys the limit. His playmaking has improved as well. Of course I'm being a massive homer here.. but I don't see anything keeping him from being great besides being on too loaded of a team to get that big of an opportunity.

But you can tell he has that it factor. He wants to be great . That goes a long way

Of course he'll be great. But a potentiap GOAT? Eh. We'll see. Hes a freak athleticslly

cloverleaf · Post #351 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri May 18, 2018 8:46 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
He wont.

Maybe in athleticism

Nah fam I'm fully drinking the kool-aid at this point. He's a better shooter than bron and he has a killer instinct. If he improves his handles and his free throws the skys the limit. His playmaking has improved as well. Of course I'm being a massive homer here.. but I don't see anything keeping him from being great besides being on too loaded of a team to get that big of an opportunity.

But you can tell he has that it factor. He wants to be great . That goes a long way

Of course he'll be great. But a potentiap GOAT? Eh. We'll see. Hes a freak athleticslly

When LBJ was JB's age he averaged 31-7-7 on the season. He had a VORP of 9.5 and a BPM of 9.3.

Green_teamer · Post #352 » by **Green_teamer** » Fri May 18, 2018 10:02 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:
Nah fam I'm fully drinking the kool-aid at this point. He's a better shooter than bron and he has a killer instinct. If he improves his handles and his free throws the skys the limit. His playmaking has improved as well. Of course I'm being a massive homer here.. but I don't see anything keeping him from being great besides being on too loaded of a team to get that big of an opportunity.

But you can tell he has that it factor. He wants to be great . That goes a long way

Of course he'll be great. But a potentiap GOAT? Eh. We'll see. Hes a freak athleticslly

When LBJ was JB's age he averaged 31-7-7 on the season. He had a VORP of 9.5 and a BPM of 9.3.

What did Kobe average his second season

GreenBloodedC · Post #353 » by **GreenBloodedC** » Sat May 19, 2018 7:29 am

Jaqua92 wrote:Anyone noticed how fast he is in the open court?

He's so athletic and he has "bursts" in him making it extremely difficult for defenders to stay in front of him and keep up with him.

Another thing I like is he can control his speed. He's not always going full throttle, he adapts to what the defense is giving him.

Higgs Boston · Post #354 » by **Higgs Boston** » Sat May 19, 2018 12:50 pm

sam_I_am wrote:When Kawhi won a title with Spurs and beat Lebron in finals playing with Duncan/Ginobilli/Parker he averaged 17.8/6.4/2 and shot 61% FG and 58% 3pt. Right now against Lebron, Jalen Brown is averaging 23/7/2 on 53% FG and 46% 3pt.

So yeah.... he is untradeable!

And that was in his 3 year, brown is a sophomore.

brackdan70 · Post #355 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 19, 2018 12:53 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:Anyone noticed how fast he is in the open court?

Bill Walton does

brackdan70 · Post #356 » by **brackdan70** » Sat May 19, 2018 12:55 pm

GreenBloodedC wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:Anyone noticed how fast he is in the open court?

He's so athletic and he has "bursts" in him making it extremely difficult for defenders to stay in front of him and keep up with him.

Another thing I like is he can control his speed. He's not always going full throttle, he adapts to what the defense is giving him.

I notice this on defense as well he can play very controlled and smooth still covering a lot of ground and staying in front of guys, then burst for a block or steal with relative ease.

vct33 · Post #357 » by **vct33** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:05 pm

Green_teamer wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:He's going to be the lebron james of our generation.

He wont.

Maybe in athleticism

Nah fam I'm fully drinking the kool-aid at this point. He's a better shooter than bron and he has a killer instinct. If he improves his handles and his free throws the skys the limit. His playmaking has improved as well. Of course I'm being a massive homer here.. but I don't see anything keeping him from being great besides being on too loaded of a team to get that big of an opportunity.

But you can tell he has that it factor. He wants to be great . That goes a long way

He doesn’t have the body or the passing.

GuyClinch · Post #358 » by **GuyClinch** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:29 pm

Meh. Brown's body is better for uptempo game. Lebron is carrying alot of upper body muscle. Helps him down low - on the box. But a 2 guard should prioritize speed.

Edug27 · Post #359 » by **Edug27** » Sat May 19, 2018 5:33 pm

Green_teamer wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
Green_teamer wrote:He's going to be the lebron james of our generation.

He wont.

Maybe in athleticism

Nah fam I'm fully drinking the kool-aid at this point. He's a better shooter than bron and he has a killer instinct. If he improves his handles and his free throws the skys the limit. His playmaking has improved as well. Of course I'm being a massive homer here.. but I don't see anything keeping him from being great besides being on too loaded of a team to get that big of an opportunity.

But you can tell he has that it factor. He wants to be great . That goes a long way

Kool-aid is a helluva drink. Got folks out here talking reckless.

Fencer reregistered · Post #360 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sat May 19, 2018 6:37 pm

Brown is utterly elite at getting where he wants to be, in a hurry, with his body under control.

What he does when he gets there is, at best, very good.

I don't think he needs a release exactly as quick as Klay Thompson's to be as good a shooter as Klay Thompson, but he does need to narrow the gap. I think he's a lot closer to that than many people think.

I think his passing will take care of itself when defenses key on him enough that he SHOULD pass out of coverage.

And I think Brown's defense is already underrated. When opposing players go off against the Celtics, how often is it somebody on whom Brown had primary defensive responsibility?