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Post#341 » by K For Three » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:20 pm

Celtics are 2-0 this postseason in the 1 pm Sunday slot.
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Post#342 » by Disinformation » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:28 pm

I love weekend games at 1 PM Eastern time -- because that's 10 am my time and I can just roll out of bed onto the couch, wake-a-bake, and enjoy the game. That's a good way to spend a Sunday morning. :nod:
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Post#343 » by K For Three » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:30 pm

Marcus Morris shoots better in the 1 pm Sunday slot.
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Post#344 » by La Flame » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:31 pm

Disinformation wrote:I love weekend games at 1 PM Eastern time -- because that's 10 am my time and I can just roll out of bed onto the couch, wake-a-bake, and enjoy the game. That's a good way to spend a Sunday morning. :nod:


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Post#345 » by Darth Celtic » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:32 pm

R9ndo wrote:GAME 1 IS SUNDAY AFTERNOON

.....there goes my End Game plans.
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Post#347 » by K For Three » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:35 pm

Gordon Hayward gets surges of unexplained testosterone to close games in 1 pm Sunday slots on the road.
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Post#348 » by 3D Chess » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:35 pm

Disinformation wrote:I love weekend games at 1 PM Eastern time -- because that's 10 am my time and I can just roll out of bed onto the couch, wake-a-bake, and enjoy the game. That's a good way to spend a Sunday morning. :nod:

Still possible to do this on the East Coast if you have a blowout on Saturday night and roll out of bed just after midday :lol:
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Post#349 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:39 pm

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R9ndo wrote:GAME 1 IS SUNDAY AFTERNOON

.....there goes my End Game plans.

at least its not on at the same time as game of thrones.
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Post#350 » by smith2373 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:48 pm

Thank god it's at 1pm, so now it can be very much out of the way before Thrones starts
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Post#351 » by JustinCredible » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:51 pm

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Nah. Don't take my shine... :lol:

Anyhow, regarding the series, if the refs don't **** it up for us and we lose I'm completely fine with it. By the refs messing it up i mean if it's one sided. Tbh, it wouldn't shock me at all if we lost and as I wrote 3-4 times I do understand that the Bucks are the favorites.

1. GA elbows Drummond in the chest to the point he stops playing defense and bends over, spins and finishes with a layup. (reggie miller. "did you see him move drummond out of the way so easily?" In awe voice)
2. Drummond posts up GA on the other end, does a legal move drop step to his left, GA flys up in the air like he weights 100lbs and Drummond is superman, literally flying away like superman on drummonds hip, offensive foul on Drummond.
3. GA drives to the rim and uses his off left arm to shove the defenders arms out of the way, then goes up for a layup. the defender has his hands straight up, but they are touching because GA just pushed them away. 2 shot foul.
4. Jackson/Drummond run a legal pick and roll against GA, Drummond called for offensive foul. Something like his 5th foul in the 3rd (or was it 4th).

This was just the 3-4 mins i paid attention to the last game that was on. Bucks were winning anyways but it was like 34 to 8 free throws at that point and the Bucks just took the lead with that series.

All of Realgm not bucks fans, no matter what the fan base is "what in the world is going on".

Bucks fans. "nothing to see here, the NBA would never give small market bucks advantage".

We have to overcome that. GA is lebron on steroids with the officials at this time.


That's one of the main reason I don't understand the narrative that Giannis is super skilled, never have and I wont until he starts shooting the ball, he averaged .280 from the 3 in the Pistons series. He's a brute who bullies people to the basket, not too great running the PnR, his post ups are mostly shoving people under the basket and the amount of travels and offensive fouls he gets away with while getting what around 10 Fts a game in the regular season is baffling to me. It's nearly impossible to guard him mostly cause he initiates all the contact and you aren't allowed to stand your ground by the refs, that's what happened last season against us and that's probably what's gonna happen this series. Giannis is a legit freak and one of a kind athlete, his determination is crazy, but saying that he's super skilled on offense is laughable, he can't stop on a dime, he can't shoot 3s off the dribble, etc.. It's actually impressive he's averaging 30 without a real jumper.


Was Jordan not skilled? He shot 13% from 3 at age 24.

Giannis' efficiency around the basket is historically great. He can do it equally well with both hands and jumping off of either foot. You can't shade him to any weak shoulder or weak hand because he doesn't have one.

His footwork both on the drive and from the post is extremely skilled. No other 6'11" player has come close in terms of side-to-side quickness and ability to get by a defender with footwork. Shaq didn't have the skill to be a beast when starting his attack from outside the 3pt line. Giannis isn't just some huge guy that bullies in the post. It is his combination of size, speed, strength, and skill that make him so great.

Also, Giannis was 33.8% on pull-up off the dribble 3s after the All-Star break this season. He is better at that particular thing than people realize. Especially when you look at the numbers compared to other players.

In comparision (post All-Star break on pull up 3s):
Giannis: 33.8%
Jaylen Brown: 33.3%
Jayson Tatum: 33.3%
Marcus Smart: 33.3%
Terry Rozier: 27.5%
Kyrie Irving: 26.4%
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Post#352 » by Disinformation » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:02 pm

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Disinformation wrote:I love weekend games at 1 PM Eastern time -- because that's 10 am my time and I can just roll out of bed onto the couch, wake-a-bake, and enjoy the game. That's a good way to spend a Sunday morning. :nod:

Still possible to do this on the East Coast if you have a blowout on Saturday night and roll out of bed just after midday :lol:

Good point! And back in my younger days when I was on the East Coast (especially when I was at UMass), I did that many times for both NBA and NFL games. Now I'm old and a dad so sleeping in that late doesn't happen very often any more.
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Post#353 » by Bleeding Green » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:03 pm

JustinCredible wrote:Also, Giannis was 33.8% on pull-up off the dribble 3s after the All-Star break this season. He is better at that particular thing than people realize. Especially when you look at the numbers compared to other players.

In comparision (post All-Star break on pull up 3s):
Giannis: 33.8%
Jaylen Brown: 33.3%
Jayson Tatum: 33.3%
Marcus Smart: 33.3%
Terry Rozier: 27.5%
Kyrie Irving: 26.4%

These are all incredibly small sample sizes. 65 attempts for Giannis, if he makes or misses two more he goes up or down 5%. Plus if he's taking pullup 3s that's an optimal defensive possession, even at 33.8 he's well below what you would normally expect from him. If he's taking a pullup 3 that's a huge win for the Celtics on that possession.

Tatum is so bad on pullups, can't believe he was allowed to take 429 of them this year, holy hell. 39.9 pct eFG on pullup jumpers from Tatum, kill me now. That's five possession every game that he's wasting on garbage shots. The only players who took as many pullups as Tatum and had a wrose eFG%: Westbrook and Wiggins. Great company, Jayson. Keep it up.

Dude has the ugliest offensive game sometimes, I'd take so much pleasure in watching his wasted talent on another team. Luckily I think his defense is incredible.

https://stats.nba.com/players/shots-general/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&GeneralRange=Pullups&PerMode=Totals&TeamID=1610612738&sort=EFG_PCT&dir=1
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Post#354 » by SLCceltic » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:08 pm

Brogdon out and Semi on Yonnus are HUGE factors ... Jaylen on khrissy too !

George Hill will give them some Brogdon moments I'm sure .. if Hayward skerry & Mook bring it well win
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Post#355 » by SLCceltic » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:08 pm

Brogdon out and Semi on Yonnus are HUGE factors ... Jaylen on khrissy too !

George Hill will give them sohme Brogdon moments I'm sure .. if Hayward skerry & Mook bring it well win
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Post#356 » by JustinCredible » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:09 pm

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JustinCredible wrote:Also, Giannis was 33.8% on pull-up off the dribble 3s after the All-Star break this season. He is better at that particular thing than people realize. Especially when you look at the numbers compared to other players.

In comparision (post All-Star break on pull up 3s):
Giannis: 33.8%
Jaylen Brown: 33.3%
Jayson Tatum: 33.3%
Marcus Smart: 33.3%
Terry Rozier: 27.5%
Kyrie Irving: 26.4%

These are all incredibly small sample sizes. 65 attempts for Giannis, if he makes or misses two more he goes up or down 5%. Plus if he's taking pullup 3s that's an optimal defensive possession, even at 33.8 he's well below what you would normally expect from him. If he's taking a pullup 3 that's a huge win for the Celtics on that possession.

Tatum is so bad on pullups, can't believe he was allowed to take 429 of them this year, holy hell. 39.9 pct eFG on pullup jumpers from Tatum, kill me now. That's five possession every game that he's wasting on garbage shots. The only players who took as many pullups as Tatum and had a wrose eFG%: Westbrook and Wiggins. Great company, Jayson. Keep it up.

https://stats.nba.com/players/shots-general/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&GeneralRange=Pullups&PerMode=Totals&TeamID=1610612738&sort=EFG_PCT&dir=1


Oh, I completely agree that Giannis taking any jumper is a win for the defense. Not because of his %, but because of his absurd % in the paint. Even James Harden taking 3s doesn't work mathematically compared to Giannis getting in the paint. I just pointed out Giannis' % in response to the specific point that he can't hit a shot off the dribble. He is better at that particular thing than most of the Celtics roster when looking at the numbers.
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Post#357 » by Bleeding Green » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:17 pm

JustinCredible wrote:
Bleeding Green wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:Also, Giannis was 33.8% on pull-up off the dribble 3s after the All-Star break this season. He is better at that particular thing than people realize. Especially when you look at the numbers compared to other players.

In comparision (post All-Star break on pull up 3s):
Giannis: 33.8%
Jaylen Brown: 33.3%
Jayson Tatum: 33.3%
Marcus Smart: 33.3%
Terry Rozier: 27.5%
Kyrie Irving: 26.4%

These are all incredibly small sample sizes. 65 attempts for Giannis, if he makes or misses two more he goes up or down 5%. Plus if he's taking pullup 3s that's an optimal defensive possession, even at 33.8 he's well below what you would normally expect from him. If he's taking a pullup 3 that's a huge win for the Celtics on that possession.

Tatum is so bad on pullups, can't believe he was allowed to take 429 of them this year, holy hell. 39.9 pct eFG on pullup jumpers from Tatum, kill me now. That's five possession every game that he's wasting on garbage shots. The only players who took as many pullups as Tatum and had a wrose eFG%: Westbrook and Wiggins. Great company, Jayson. Keep it up.

https://stats.nba.com/players/shots-general/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&GeneralRange=Pullups&PerMode=Totals&TeamID=1610612738&sort=EFG_PCT&dir=1


Oh, I completely agree that Giannis taking any jumper is a win for the defense. Not because of his %, but because of his absurd % in the paint. Even James Harden taking 3s doesn't work mathematically compared to Giannis getting in the paint. I just pointed out Giannis' % in response to the specific point that he can't hit a shot off the dribble. He is better at that particular thing than most of the Celtics roster when looking at the numbers.

Only if you choose to cherrypick a 24 game stretch, though. Include the entire season and he would rank last on the Celtics in pullup eFG% at 38.6%. Bucks actually have two of the best pullup guys in Bledsoe and Middleton, though.
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Post#358 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:30 pm

JustinCredible wrote:
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Darth Celtic wrote:1. GA elbows Drummond in the chest to the point he stops playing defense and bends over, spins and finishes with a layup. (reggie miller. "did you see him move drummond out of the way so easily?" In awe voice)
2. Drummond posts up GA on the other end, does a legal move drop step to his left, GA flys up in the air like he weights 100lbs and Drummond is superman, literally flying away like superman on drummonds hip, offensive foul on Drummond.
3. GA drives to the rim and uses his off left arm to shove the defenders arms out of the way, then goes up for a layup. the defender has his hands straight up, but they are touching because GA just pushed them away. 2 shot foul.
4. Jackson/Drummond run a legal pick and roll against GA, Drummond called for offensive foul. Something like his 5th foul in the 3rd (or was it 4th).

This was just the 3-4 mins i paid attention to the last game that was on. Bucks were winning anyways but it was like 34 to 8 free throws at that point and the Bucks just took the lead with that series.

All of Realgm not bucks fans, no matter what the fan base is "what in the world is going on".

Bucks fans. "nothing to see here, the NBA would never give small market bucks advantage".

We have to overcome that. GA is lebron on steroids with the officials at this time.


That's one of the main reason I don't understand the narrative that Giannis is super skilled, never have and I wont until he starts shooting the ball, he averaged .280 from the 3 in the Pistons series. He's a brute who bullies people to the basket, not too great running the PnR, his post ups are mostly shoving people under the basket and the amount of travels and offensive fouls he gets away with while getting what around 10 Fts a game in the regular season is baffling to me. It's nearly impossible to guard him mostly cause he initiates all the contact and you aren't allowed to stand your ground by the refs, that's what happened last season against us and that's probably what's gonna happen this series. Giannis is a legit freak and one of a kind athlete, his determination is crazy, but saying that he's super skilled on offense is laughable, he can't stop on a dime, he can't shoot 3s off the dribble, etc.. It's actually impressive he's averaging 30 without a real jumper.


Was Jordan not skilled? He shot 13% from 3 at age 24.

Giannis' efficiency around the basket is historically great. He can do it equally well with both hands and jumping off of either foot. You can't shade him to any weak shoulder or weak hand because he doesn't have one.

His footwork both on the drive and from the post is extremely skilled. No other 6'11" player has come close in terms of side-to-side quickness and ability to get by a defender with footwork. Shaq didn't have the skill to be a beast when starting his attack from outside the 3pt line. Giannis isn't just some huge guy that bullies in the post. It is his combination of size, speed, strength, and skill that make him so great.

Also, Giannis was 33.8% on pull-up off the dribble 3s after the All-Star break this season. He is better at that particular thing than people realize. Especially when you look at the numbers compared to other players.

In comparision (post All-Star break on pull up 3s):
Giannis: 33.8%
Jaylen Brown: 33.3%
Jayson Tatum: 33.3%
Marcus Smart: 33.3%
Terry Rozier: 27.5%
Kyrie Irving: 26.4%


So we can pick and choose stats, well why not compare their career 3 point numbers? I didn't even check how many 3s he shot against DET but it was .280 from 3, 1st game was .330, one he didnt shoot any or didn't make I got no idea cause it was 0, .200 in another and .300 in the last. Don't try to compare him to Kyrie, Tatum, Smart is a bad shooter still in 5 years shoots the 3s better than Giannis, Terry has also been awful this season coming off the bench, he has the worst shooting numbers on our team during the regular season. How about the playoffs career 3s? Etc, etc...With that being said, I hope he shoots 4-5, maybe even 6 3s a game. It's a welcome sight, considering how well he did vs the Pistons.

Shaq was also 300 pounds and 7'2, did you really expect Shaq to have the skill to start from 3 point line?
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Post#359 » by old skool » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:34 pm

Antetokounmpo's jump shot % is less significant than his FT%. He is shooting 63% from the line in the playoffs this year. Foul Shots is a major part of his game. If he is so unreliable from the line, that has to be a huge concern for Milwaukee. His FT failures seem to be most severe when he is under pressure. He shot around 50% for most of the Detroit series, only to make 11 of 12 in the final half.

Nonetheless, he is the best player in this series.
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Post#360 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:38 pm

old skool wrote:Antetokounmpo's jump shot % is less significant than his FT%. He is shooting 63% from the line in the playoffs this year. Foul Shots is a major part of his game. If he is so unreliable from the line, that has to be a huge concern for Milwaukee. His FT failures seem to be most severe when he is under pressure. He shot around 50% for most of the Detroit series, only to make 11 of 12 in the final half.

Nonetheless, he is the best player in this series.


I agree that he is, but he shoots the FTs much better, I actually expect the Fts to improve against us, sadly.
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