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Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster – (20-Man Off-Season)

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Craft your 2022-23 Roster = Assume keeping Smart, Brown & Tatum

Horford
69
16%
Rob Williams
69
16%
Pritchard
61
14%
White
60
14%
Nesmith
38
9%
Grant Williams
67
16%
Theis
35
8%
Non-Guaranteed = Morgan - Stauskas - Hauser - Fitts
9
2%
Unsigned = Kornet - Thomas - Ryan
1
0%
Rookie/Other
20
5%
 
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#341 » by bucknersrevenge » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:19 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:If you can add shooting at the expense of one of Smart/White I would highly consider it. I just think there’s too much money between the two and too poor of outside shooting for a team that relies on it.


Agreed. I'd look to move White out of the two but not sure he'll have a market this offseason.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#342 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:32 am

Move Derrick White for a scorer, upgrade over Pritchard and be a luxury tax team.

If ownership is too tight to be a luxury tax team, this group will never win a title.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#343 » by bfchs123 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:34 am

Time for Tatum to call up Brad Beal - we need the last scoring piece

Also need to add some veteran leadership. Al is great but the bench is all young players and their composure was completely shaken in the finals. Hopefully this run starts to alert some of the ring chasers
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Post#344 » by Marti-mar » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:38 am

Welp, need several new pieces than can play against high level teams and not be a massive drain. We've got some roster flexibility. Are the owners willing to spend?
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#345 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:39 am

Just sign and trade for everyone like the Clippers are doing. The Celtics have been cheap for years. What is their excuse now?
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Post#346 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:40 am

Bout to find out if Stevens has the balls to make the appropriate changes or if he's gonna ride the same roster for yet another year.
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Post#347 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:58 am

bfchs123 wrote:Time for Tatum to call up Brad Beal - we need the last scoring piece

yes. am i the only one who was up late the other night (one of the nights there wasn't a celtics game) watching Beal highlight vids?

Man, he's good.







Tatum, Brown, Beal. And hire an offensive guru assistant coach to help with sets, ball movement, more pace, rhythm, flow to the offense.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#348 » by chrisab123 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:08 am

bfchs123 wrote:Time for Tatum to call up Brad Beal - we need the last scoring piece

Also need to add some veteran leadership. Al is great but the bench is all young players and their composure was completely shaken in the finals. Hopefully this run starts to alert some of the ring chasers


But will they pull the trigger? If Tatum doesn't grow a set its not going to matter how many great shooters surround him.
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Post#349 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:38 am

Horford cap number is the biggest obstacle for any maneuvering. I don't want to trade him because his leadership and defense provides a unquantifiable value for the team.

However they aren't gonna trade Smart. Brown or Tatum so he feels like the odd man out.

If we can package a couple assets with him to a team looking to dump decent players they have no need for in a rebuild then who knows. Gotta listen.

Other than that. The trade exceptions they have are the only valuable asset left to add anyone to thus team in hopes of overcoming the luls on offense when Tatum or brown exit the floor.
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Post#350 » by Infinite Llamas » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:44 am

So frustrating that we botched Nesmith development to the point where Ime had zero trust in him to even boost the energy. This guy was lottery pick potential but we’ve never given him a consistent role. We never allowed him to miss shots or make mistakes and our depth looked so painfully thin as this series wore on. Now I’m not saying Aaron freaking Nesmith is the answer but another wasted top 15 pick is the last thing this team needs.

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Post#351 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:15 am

Game 6 did little to change my opinion. We just need more playable perimeter guys on the bench.

I don't want to break up our 7 (3 big, 4 perimeter) Very Good Defensive Players. I just want to add to Ime's options. If we get a guy who's a merely OK defender, but reliable on offense, fine. Play him in most cases, and if he gets hunted too successfully, pull back to relying on the defensive guys.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#352 » by hugepatsfan » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:26 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:Game 6 did little to change my opinion. We just need more playable perimeter guys on the bench.

I don't want to break up our 7 (3 big, 4 perimeter) Very Good Defensive Players. I just want to add to Ime's options. If we get a guy who's a merely OK defender, but reliable on offense, fine. Play him in most cases, and if he gets hunted too successfully, pull back to relying on the defensive guys.


Kevin Huerter. Hawks figure to make a lot of moves. He fits into the TPE. Can handle the ball some, knockdown shooter, won’t kills you defensively (though certainly not an asset there).

I think he’s worth the 2023 1st. If ATL looks for upgrades there’s a good chance they need to include him and the other trade party might prefer salary relief and a pick.

Smart / White
Brown / Huerter
Tatum
Horford / G Williams
R Williams

I’ll roll with that 8 man rotation for the playoffs.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#353 » by Edug27 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:26 am

chrisab123 wrote:
bfchs123 wrote:Time for Tatum to call up Brad Beal - we need the last scoring piece

Also need to add some veteran leadership. Al is great but the bench is all young players and their composure was completely shaken in the finals. Hopefully this run starts to alert some of the ring chasers


But will they pull the trigger? If Tatum doesn't grow a set its not going to matter how many great shooters surround him.


How do we realistically get Beal? I’m assuming Beal wants his supermax from the Wiz. So he’ll either do a sign and trade, or just return to Washington.

A sign and trade would include Horford and Smart?

Would Jaylen be open to being the 3rd option at this point in his career?

Is there a veteran PG out there (please not Rubio) who can be acquired?

Ugh so many questions.
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Post#354 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:26 am

The Corey's wrote:Bout to find out if Stevens has the balls to make the appropriate changes or if he's gonna ride the same roster for yet another year.


Wtf with the hot takes? Stevens traded Kemba and a pick for Al. Traded JRich, Langford, and a pick swap for White. Steven isn't afraid to make bold moves.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#355 » by Edug27 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:29 am

The Corey's wrote:Horford cap number is the biggest obstacle for any maneuvering. I don't want to trade him because his leadership and defense provides a unquantifiable value for the team.

However they aren't gonna trade Smart. Brown or Tatum so he feels like the odd man out.

If we can package a couple assets with him to a team looking to dump decent players they have no need for in a rebuild then who knows. Gotta listen.

Other than that. The trade exceptions they have are the only valuable asset left to add anyone to thus team in hopes of overcoming the luls on offense when Tatum or brown exit the floor.


Smarts value is the highest it’ll ever be. Plus he’s under contract.
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Re: Begin to Craft your 2022-23 Celtics Roster 

Post#356 » by flintsky21 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:29 am

Give me a dependable, legit 12 ppg shooter/scorer off the bench. These "15 points in one game then 2 points the next" guys they have in White, Grant, and Pritchard ain't gonna cut it.

The starters are set, but I still worry about Rob's durability. An incredible player is still rendered absolutely useless in games he misses. If there's a good offer for him, you might have to take it to consideration.

A 6'8"-ish 3 and D guy would be nice too, but they've been looking for one for at least 3 years now, so I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Post#357 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:30 am

CelticFaninLBC wrote:
The Corey's wrote:Bout to find out if Stevens has the balls to make the appropriate changes or if he's gonna ride the same roster for yet another year.


Wtf with the hot takes? Stevens traded Kemba and a pick for Al. Traded JRich, Langford, and a pick swap for White. Steven isn't afraid to make bold moves.


Kemba for Al isn't a move I'd consider bold. It was the right one, even if I thought given up the pick was too much.

Trading Horford or Smart now to fill the holes this team has would be bold. He's not doing that.
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Post#358 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:31 am

Edug27 wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
bfchs123 wrote:Time for Tatum to call up Brad Beal - we need the last scoring piece

Also need to add some veteran leadership. Al is great but the bench is all young players and their composure was completely shaken in the finals. Hopefully this run starts to alert some of the ring chasers


But will they pull the trigger? If Tatum doesn't grow a set its not going to matter how many great shooters surround him.


How do we realistically get Beal? I’m assuming Beal wants his supermax from the Wiz. So he’ll either do a sign and trade, or just return to Washington.

A sign and trade would include Horford and Smart?

Would Jaylen be open to being the 3rd option at this point in his career?

Is there a veteran PG out there (please not Rubio) who can be acquired?

Ugh so many questions.


Horford, White, Nesmith, PP and picks is probably enough money to match for Beal....

Rob, JT, JB, Beal and Smart would be awesome. The bench would be more brutal than this year's **** bench, because they'll be hard capped and have little money to spend on bench players.
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Post#359 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:31 am

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The Corey's wrote:Horford cap number is the biggest obstacle for any maneuvering. I don't want to trade him because his leadership and defense provides a unquantifiable value for the team.

However they aren't gonna trade Smart. Brown or Tatum so he feels like the odd man out.

If we can package a couple assets with him to a team looking to dump decent players they have no need for in a rebuild then who knows. Gotta listen.

Other than that. The trade exceptions they have are the only valuable asset left to add anyone to thus team in hopes of overcoming the luls on offense when Tatum or brown exit the floor.


Smarts value is the highest it’ll ever be. Plus he’s under contract.


I'd trade Smart in a second, depending on what we'd get in return.

I just know the Celtics won't. Even thought he is at his highest value ever and I'm not sure it's the right move.

Would have to know what were getting in return. Not worth dreaming about. Stevens loves him.
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Post#360 » by CelticFaninLBC » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:32 am

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CelticFaninLBC wrote:
The Corey's wrote:Bout to find out if Stevens has the balls to make the appropriate changes or if he's gonna ride the same roster for yet another year.


Wtf with the hot takes? Stevens traded Kemba and a pick for Al. Traded JRich, Langford, and a pick swap for White. Steven isn't afraid to make bold moves.


Kemba for Al isn't a move I'd consider bold. It was the right one, even if I thought given up the pick was too much.

Trading Horford or Smart now to fill the holes this team has would be bold. He's not doing that.


What is a fair return for Al and Smart?

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