Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST

[Captain_Caveman]

Lol at the trade JB crowd getting their heart strings yanked again.

Except we are all hardcore pragmatists, and not overly sentimental about grown men that don't even know that we are alive lol.

[Darthlukey]

Who the hell is Nick Kyrgios?

An Aussie tennis player who is a celtics fan and a douchebag....signed, an aussie

[CelticFaninLBC]

Lol at the trade JB crowd getting their heart strings yanked again.

Except we are all hardcore pragmatists, and not overly sentimental about grown men that don't even know that we are alive lol.

Lol.

You're the most sophisticated fan on this board.

[zoyathedestroya]

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[MagicBagley18]

BRK didn’t flinch when KD asked for a trade this summer. Losing their malcontent PG who doesn’t play defense or care about his job probably doesn’t mean “blow it up” to them. IMO positing where KD “lands” is a waste of time because he’s very unlikely to be going anywhere.

Maybe. I’d agree for sure right now. But in the offseason?….idk. Part of the reason they didn’t flinch is because they were banking on him coming back along with kyrie, who even if Kevin were hypothetically annoyed with the distractions off court is still a great friend to him. They were also never even being serious about the returns they’d get.

at that time they could still to some degree sell the hope and dream of Ben Simmons being….anything. We’ve seen that’s not happening. They also benefitted from the fact that KD didn’t really escalate things too much. He released the hollow threat about firing the coach and gm (which they did one of anyways lol) but wasn’t super vocal on social media etc.

Point is that if Durant wants to really get out I think he’ll make it clear and put them in a spot where they have to move on. That all depends on if he truly wants out but he won’t be coming here

[MagicBagley18]

Lol at the trade JB crowd getting their heart strings yanked again.

Except we are all hardcore pragmatists, and not overly sentimental about grown men that don't even know that we are alive lol.

And in nearly every response said Jaylen wasn’t gonna be traded and acknowledge the conversation is mainly for fun.

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BRK didn’t flinch when KD asked for a trade this summer. Losing their malcontent PG who doesn’t play defense or care about his job probably doesn’t mean “blow it up” to them. IMO positing where KD “lands” is a waste of time because he’s very unlikely to be going anywhere.

Maybe. I’d agree for sure right now. But in the offseason?….idk. Part of the reason they didn’t flinch is because they were banking on him coming back along with kyrie, who even if Kevin were hypothetically annoyed with the distractions off court is still a great friend to him. They were also never even being serious about the returns they’d get.

at that time they could still to some degree sell the hope and dream of Ben Simmons being….anything. We’ve seen that’s not happening. They also benefitted from the fact that KD didn’t really escalate things too much. He released the hollow threat about firing the coach and gm (which they did one of anyways lol) but wasn’t super vocal on social media etc.

Point is that if Durant wants to really get out I think he’ll make it clear and put them in a spot where they have to move on. That all depends on if he truly wants out but he won’t be coming here

Right, I meant KD’s not getting traded this week. A healthy KD still makes the Nets a factor in the East, even if they only get a spare part or two for Kyrie.

At some point the franchise will have to move on from him, and maybe the Nets will have some institutional memory of the PP/KG trade and realize they should sell sooner rather than later. That’d be this summer. But — and the rest of this will be my opinion — I wouldn’t pull that trigger soon, you know? As weird as it sounds, I’d still give Simmons another year to see if he can get back to being a consistent impact player. If that’s still a “no” a year from now, maybe then I blow it up.

[MagicBagley18]

BRK didn’t flinch when KD asked for a trade this summer. Losing their malcontent PG who doesn’t play defense or care about his job probably doesn’t mean “blow it up” to them. IMO positing where KD “lands” is a waste of time because he’s very unlikely to be going anywhere.

Maybe. I’d agree for sure right now. But in the offseason?….idk. Part of the reason they didn’t flinch is because they were banking on him coming back along with kyrie, who even if Kevin were hypothetically annoyed with the distractions off court is still a great friend to him. They were also never even being serious about the returns they’d get.

at that time they could still to some degree sell the hope and dream of Ben Simmons being….anything. We’ve seen that’s not happening. They also benefitted from the fact that KD didn’t really escalate things too much. He released the hollow threat about firing the coach and gm (which they did one of anyways lol) but wasn’t super vocal on social media etc.

Point is that if Durant wants to really get out I think he’ll make it clear and put them in a spot where they have to move on. That all depends on if he truly wants out but he won’t be coming here

Right, I meant KD’s not getting traded this week. A healthy KD still makes the Nets a factor in the East, even if they only get a spare part or two for Kyrie.

At some point the franchise will have to move on from him, and maybe the Nets will have some institutional memory of the PP/KG trade and realize they should sell sooner rather than later. That’d be this summer. But — and the rest of this will be my opinion — I wouldn’t pull that trigger soon, you know? As weird as it sounds, I’d still give Simmons another year to see if he can get back to being a consistent impact player. If that’s still a “no” a year from now, maybe then I blow it up.

No, I agree. You hold onto him for dear life until you realize you have to let go. I am just not sure he’ll let them much longer

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[Celts17Pride]

Any move Brad Stevens makes should be geared to help against Giannis/Embiid. Those are the main players that you have to get through in the East. No one is going to stop those players but an extra quality body to throw at those players would help.

PF/C is the position Brad should be looking at and hopefully pick up a wing later in a buyout.

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Any move Brad Stevens makes should be geared to help against Giannis/Embiid. Those are the main players that you have to get through in the East. No one is going to stop those players but an extra quality body to throw at those players would help.

PF/C is the position Brad should be looking at and hopefully pick up a wing later in a buyout.

I agree but on the other hand we've been saying this for years and I don't think we've ever brought in a traditional 'big' to fight Joel except Big Al himself.

[GoCeltics123]

I think the combo of it being in-season plus not having Ime anymore kinda killed the KD thing.

Unless JB said he wasn't staying, which he's given no indication of. Still, I can imagine Brad watches the Tatum-less lineups led by JB struggle and does think about it lol.

This team badly needs a backup wing though, badly. It's just hard to watch them at this point some nights when Tatum has to play 48 minutes to beat bad teams.

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I think the combo of it being in-season plus not having Ime anymore kinda killed the KD thing.

Unless JB said he wasn't staying, which he's given no indication of. Still, I can imagine Brad watches the Tatum-less lineups led by JB struggle and does think about it lol.

This team badly needs a backup wing though, badly. It's just hard to watch them at this point some nights when Tatum has to play 48 minutes to beat bad teams.

While I agree we need a backup wing, we didn't have 1 last season and we still made the NBA finals. Our only backup wing was Nesmith and Hauser. And they barely ever played..

[Triple7]

Any move Brad Stevens makes should be geared to help against Giannis/Embiid. Those are the main players that you have to get through in the East. No one is going to stop those players but an extra quality body to throw at those players would help.

PF/C is the position Brad should be looking at and hopefully pick up a wing later in a buyout.

I agree. We need an extra big asap. We obviously had problems guarding bigs that can score. I’ll add Bam and the heat. Heck, we had problems guarding Vucevic lol. I agree, big man first, then a wing later.

[Celts17Pride]

Any move Brad Stevens makes should be geared to help against Giannis/Embiid. Those are the main players that you have to get through in the East. No one is going to stop those players but an extra quality body to throw at those players would help.

PF/C is the position Brad should be looking at and hopefully pick up a wing later in a buyout.

I agree but on the other hand we've been saying this for years and I don't think we've ever brought in a traditional 'big' to fight Joel except Big Al himself.

I love the idea of Vanderbilt and Willy Hernangomez. Vandy especially because he is a defensive player

[zoyathedestroya]

I think the combo of it being in-season plus not having Ime anymore kinda killed the KD thing.

Unless JB said he wasn't staying, which he's given no indication of. Still, I can imagine Brad watches the Tatum-less lineups led by JB struggle and does think about it lol.

This team badly needs a backup wing though, badly. It's just hard to watch them at this point some nights when Tatum has to play 48 minutes to beat bad teams.

My issue with “bringing in new wing to take some of JT’s minutes” is if JB can’t consistently positively impact the the JT-less units (while already paired with Brogdon), how can we expect said wing to?

Joe is hesitant to sit JT cos we kinda suck when he does. I don’t think that changes unless the wing we bring in is KD, Giannis, or Lebron. Taking over Hauser’s minutes is a different matter though. Always good to have another option not named Jackson (useless) or PP (too small and hasn’t shot well either).

[zoyathedestroya]

Grant slowly turning into a potato the past month is added motivation to bring in someone new. Instead of having a solid, reliable top 8, it’s more like 7.10 at the moment. Well, less since Smart’s out.

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Noel has declined last couple years. Maybe because of injuries, maybe because he's been unmotivated since he's been bouncing around from crappy team with undefined role to crappy team with undefined role.

But he's still only 28 and peaked at 20% rebounding rate and a 9% blocks rate which are awesome numbers.

So if we get him and he can get back to at least close to those rebounding and block numbers, and on offense catch lobs, get some put-backs, move the ball and not clog the lane up, he could be a good pickup.

But those are lots of ifs and his contract is like $9 mil so question is, how do we match salaries? We'd likely have to give up Gallo but reports are saying that Gallo isn't getting traded..