Trade/Free Agency Thread, part 7, 2023-24

[Hal14]

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Rob
Brogdon | Hauser | Grant | Horford | Kornet
PP | JD | Walsh | Brissett | ?

If we sign Grant, I'd be comfortable with this roster except for at backup PG. I think we still need a competent vet with a bit of size. Not comfortable with PP and JD as our only backup PG options. Other than that, let's roll.

I want a bruiser center on the bench--and think it's still most likely Grant isn't back. Maybe one of their SL guys from Europe could fill that role, but if they don't have Grant I think they still need another legit big.

Why not Griffin?

[Bill Lumbergh]

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Rob
Brogdon | Hauser | Grant | Horford | Kornet
PP | JD | Walsh | Brissett | ?

If we sign Grant, I'd be comfortable with this roster except for at backup PG. I think we still need a competent vet with a bit of size. Not comfortable with PP and JD as our only backup PG options. Other than that, let's roll.

I want a bruiser center on the bench--and think it's still most likely Grant isn't back. Maybe one of their SL guys from Europe could fill that role, but if they don't have Grant I think they still need another legit big.

And really, you wouldn't be comfortable with PP and JD as your 3rd and 4th string PGs?

I'd like a bruising big, too. Cap space is drying up, so I am thinking it's becoming more likely we get Grant back for a year. Shouldn't be more than a couple more days before we know.

Yeah, PP will get targeted on D, and JD is just too inexperienced, in my view.

[Hal14]

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Rob
Brogdon | Hauser | Grant | Horford | Kornet
PP | JD | Walsh | Brissett | ?

If we sign Grant, I'd be comfortable with this roster except for at backup PG. I think we still need a competent vet with a bit of size. Not comfortable with PP and JD as our only backup PG options behind White and Brogdon (both of whom are kind of tweeners). First world problems. Other than that, let's roll.

Brogdon is the backup PG. He's the competent vet with a bit of size.

[Celts17Pride]

Honestly, I might throw the TPMLE at Dzanan Musa, then sign Bazley to a minimum contact.

Bazley gives you a lot of what Grant did. A PF who can play some small ball 5, gives you defensive versatility (Bazley is better rim protector and also quicker feet out on the perimeter), play unselfish on offense, good cutter, make some open 3's (obviously Bazley isn't as good a shooter as Grant but did shoot 38% from 3 last season and just turned 23 so still developing). Bazley also gives you better length (6'9" with a 7'0" wingspan, as opposed to Grant who is 6'6" with a 6'10" wingspan)

Then you have a bench of: Brogdon, Al, Musa, Hauser, Pritchard, Bazley, Brissett, Kornet, Davison, Walsh

Musa gives you a really dynamic player who can play on ball or off ball. Play him off ball as a catch and shoot guy and cutter. Or play him on ball as a guy who can create his own shot, run PnR. More of a wing but can also play PG, an intriguing skill set at 6'9".

Celtics won't use the MLE unless they trade Brogdon or Pritchard. They are not going to put themselves right on the edge of the 2nd apron, hard capped with very limited flexibility.

Hmm, interesting. So we'd resign Grant at $12.4 mil a year but not use the TPMLE for $5 mil a year?

Resigning Grant doesn't hard cap the Celtics. Know the rules before you get snarky.

[Bill Lumbergh]

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Rob
Brogdon | Hauser | Grant | Horford | Kornet
PP | JD | Walsh | Brissett | ?

If we sign Grant, I'd be comfortable with this roster except for at backup PG. I think we still need a competent vet with a bit of size. Not comfortable with PP and JD as our only backup PG options behind White and Brogdon (both of whom are kind of tweeners). First world problems. Other than that, let's roll.

Brogdon is the backup PG. He's the competent vet with a bit of size.

That's why I said behind White and Brogdon. Yeah, we're talking 3rd stringer, so first world problems.

[Hal14]

Celtics won't use the MLE unless they trade Brogdon or Pritchard. They are not going to put themselves right on the edge of the 2nd apron, hard capped with very limited flexibility.

Hmm, interesting. So we'd resign Grant at $12.4 mil a year but not use the TPMLE for $5 mil a year?

Resigning Grant doesn't hard cap the Celtics. Know the rules before you get snarky.

What? I wasn't being snarky at all. It was a serious question. Jeez dude, not everyone knows every rule in the 600+ page CBA that was just issued to teams like 3 days ago.

[darrendaye]

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Rob
Brogdon | Hauser | Grant | Horford | Kornet
PP | JD | Walsh | Brissett | ?

If we sign Grant, I'd be comfortable with this roster except for at backup PG. I think we still need a competent vet with a bit of size. Not comfortable with PP and JD as our only backup PG options. Other than that, let's roll.

I want a bruiser center on the bench--and think it's still most likely Grant isn't back. Maybe one of their SL guys from Europe could fill that role, but if they don't have Grant I think they still need another legit big.

And really, you wouldn't be comfortable with PP and JD as your 3rd and 4th string PGs?

I agree with your assessment on need. I'd be ok here:

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[Celts17Pride]

Hmm, interesting. So we'd resign Grant at $12.4 mil a year but not use the TPMLE for $5 mil a year?

Resigning Grant doesn't hard cap the Celtics. Know the rules before you get snarky.

What? I wasn't being snarky at all. It was a serious question. Jeez dude, not everyone knows every rule in the 600+ page CBA.

My bad then.

[zoyathedestroya]

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Rob
Brogdon | Hauser | Grant | Horford | Kornet
PP | JD | Walsh | Brissett | ?

If we sign Grant, I'd be comfortable with this roster except for at backup PG. I think we still need a competent vet with a bit of size. Not comfortable with PP and JD as our only backup PG options behind White and Brogdon (both of whom are kind of tweeners). First world problems. Other than that, let's roll.

Brogdon is the backup PG. He's the competent vet with a bit of size.

That's why I said behind White and Brogdon. Yeah, we're talking 3rd stringer, so first world problems.

Why not just trade PP/Kornet/Champagnie/2nd for Wright while keeping both Grant and Brogdon. Sign Griffin and Javonte. But that's like Wyc just doesn't care about money anymore lol.

EDIT: Not that bad. $193.8M for 14 guys. Can still sign Walsh for last roster spot.

[Hal14]

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Rob
Brogdon | Hauser | Grant | Horford | Kornet
PP | JD | Walsh | Brissett | ?

If we sign Grant, I'd be comfortable with this roster except for at backup PG. I think we still need a competent vet with a bit of size. Not comfortable with PP and JD as our only backup PG options. Other than that, let's roll.

I want a bruiser center on the bench--and think it's still most likely Grant isn't back. Maybe one of their SL guys from Europe could fill that role, but if they don't have Grant I think they still need another legit big.

And really, you wouldn't be comfortable with PP and JD as your 3rd and 4th string PGs?

I agree with your assessment on need. I'd be ok here:

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Garuba just got traded to the Hawks. I think ATL is gonna keep him..especially with Collins gone.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Brogdon is the backup PG. He's the competent vet with a bit of size.

That's why I said behind White and Brogdon. Yeah, we're talking 3rd stringer, so first world problems.

Why not just trade PP/Kornet/Champagnie/2nd for Wright while keeping both Grant and Brogdon. Sign Griffin and Javonte. But that's like Wyc just doesn't care about money anymore lol.

Sounds good to me.

[Celts17Pride]

Tim Chisholm @timpchisholm
about 9 minutes ago

Moving Siakam would be about clarifying the roster around Barnes and Anunoby, especially if you subscribe to the theory that Barnes/Siakam are too similar, and preventing Siakam from leaving a year from now. It’s not really about getting a spectacular return

I could get into moving Brogdon, others plus draft capital for P Siakim. Who cares about money, it' s not mine.

[zoyathedestroya]

Miami and Phoenix forming superteams just to beat this SMFH:

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Tim Chisholm @timpchisholm
about 9 minutes ago

Moving Siakam would be about clarifying the roster around Barnes and Anunoby, especially if you subscribe to the theory that Barnes/Siakam are too similar, and preventing Siakam from leaving a year from now. It’s not really about getting a spectacular return

I could get into moving Brogdon, others plus draft capital for P Siakim. Who cares about money, it' s not mine.

Unless Brad is planning on shipping Timelord or Horford out, then I think the Siakam ship has sailed with Porzingis' arrival.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Well, there you have it...

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[Bill Lumbergh]

Well, there you have it...

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I happen to know who parkercards uncle is, and it's CT. Buckle up.

[Hal14]

Tim Chisholm @timpchisholm
about 9 minutes ago

Moving Siakam would be about clarifying the roster around Barnes and Anunoby, especially if you subscribe to the theory that Barnes/Siakam are too similar, and preventing Siakam from leaving a year from now. It’s not really about getting a spectacular return

I could get into moving Brogdon, others plus draft capital for P Siakim. Who cares about money, it' s not mine.

Unless Brad is planning on shipping Timelord or Horford out, then I think the Siakam ship has sailed with Porzingis' arrival.

I'll drive either of them to the airport

Would do Brogdon + Rob (or al) for Siakam in a heartbeat.

Just not sure if it's realistic, given how much $ we would have tied up in 4 guys. But a starting 5 of white/JB/JT/Siakam/KP would be lethal.

[Hal14]

Well, maybe we resign Grant. And somehow get Musa to agree to a minimum contract.

C Rob
F Porzingis
F Tatum
G Brown
G White

Bench: Brogdon, Al, Grant, Hauser, Musa, Pritchard, Kornet, Brissett, Griffin

15th spot, either Davison or Walsh. The other on a 2-way. Figure it out after summer league.

That's a GOOD team.

If we can't get Musa, then sign Javonte. But at this point, I am not too keen on us signing Javonte - he's a guy who relied a lot on his athleticism/burst and had arthroscopic knee surgery in January, then missed pretty much the rest of the season. I hope we can do better in that spot..

[SuperDeluxe]

Tim Chisholm @timpchisholm
about 9 minutes ago

Moving Siakam would be about clarifying the roster around Barnes and Anunoby, especially if you subscribe to the theory that Barnes/Siakam are too similar, and preventing Siakam from leaving a year from now. It’s not really about getting a spectacular return

I could get into moving Brogdon, others plus draft capital for P Siakim. Who cares about money, it' s not mine.

Unless Brad is planning on shipping Timelord or Horford out, then I think the Siakam ship has sailed with Porzingis' arrival.

I'll drive either of them to the airport

That's Luke Kornet's role, sorry

[playa-hater]

As in the general public of Miami? Crazy why that might be

Unless you're saying like beat guys but that would be directly contradicting Woj

I know the guy in NBA central and his right hand man is claiming that to me personally.

lol damn I just know the guy from @TheNBAcentel

wait.. your the guy I dunked on last week??