PLAYOFFS, 2nd RND, GM #1 – Celtics @ Bucks – 1:00PM, Sun, 04-28-19

[thelarrybirdx]

Antetokounmpo's jump shot % is less significant than his FT%. He is shooting 63% from the line in the playoffs this year. Foul Shots is a major part of his game. If he is so unreliable from the line, that has to be a huge concern for Milwaukee. His FT failures seem to be most severe when he is under pressure. He shot around 50% for most of the Detroit series, only to make 11 of 12 in the final half.

Nonetheless, he is the best player in this series.

I swear he never missed at the line in last year’s series lol

[SmartWentCrazy]

Was Jordan not skilled? He shot 13% from 3 at age 24.

Giannis' efficiency around the basket is historically great. He can do it equally well with both hands and jumping off of either foot. You can't shade him to any weak shoulder or weak hand because he doesn't have one.

His footwork both on the drive and from the post is extremely skilled. No other 6'11" player has come close in terms of side-to-side quickness and ability to get by a defender with footwork. Shaq didn't have the skill to be a beast when starting his attack from outside the 3pt line. Giannis isn't just some huge guy that bullies in the post. It is his combination of size, speed, strength, and skill that make him so great.

Also, Giannis was 33.8% on pull-up off the dribble 3s after the All-Star break this season. He is better at that particular thing than people realize. Especially when you look at the numbers compared to other players.

In comparision (post All-Star break on pull up 3s):
Giannis: 33.8%
Jaylen Brown: 33.3%
Jayson Tatum: 33.3%
Marcus Smart: 33.3%
Terry Rozier: 27.5%
Kyrie Irving: 26.4%

My turn!

In comparison (only makes count for Giannis, only misses for the Celtics):

Giannis: 100%
Jaylen Brown: 0%
Jayson Tatum: 0%
Marcus Smart: 0%
Terry Rozier: 0%
Kyrie Irving: 0%

The Celtics are ****! They suck and Giannis is the most skilled player in the league!

[JustinCredible]

That's one of the main reason I don't understand the narrative that Giannis is super skilled, never have and I wont until he starts shooting the ball, he averaged .280 from the 3 in the Pistons series. He's a brute who bullies people to the basket, not too great running the PnR, his post ups are mostly shoving people under the basket and the amount of travels and offensive fouls he gets away with while getting what around 10 Fts a game in the regular season is baffling to me. It's nearly impossible to guard him mostly cause he initiates all the contact and you aren't allowed to stand your ground by the refs, that's what happened last season against us and that's probably what's gonna happen this series. Giannis is a legit freak and one of a kind athlete, his determination is crazy, but saying that he's super skilled on offense is laughable, he can't stop on a dime, he can't shoot 3s off the dribble, etc.. It's actually impressive he's averaging 30 without a real jumper.

Was Jordan not skilled? He shot 13% from 3 at age 24.

Giannis' efficiency around the basket is historically great. He can do it equally well with both hands and jumping off of either foot. You can't shade him to any weak shoulder or weak hand because he doesn't have one.

His footwork both on the drive and from the post is extremely skilled. No other 6'11" player has come close in terms of side-to-side quickness and ability to get by a defender with footwork. Shaq didn't have the skill to be a beast when starting his attack from outside the 3pt line. Giannis isn't just some huge guy that bullies in the post. It is his combination of size, speed, strength, and skill that make him so great.

Also, Giannis was 33.8% on pull-up off the dribble 3s after the All-Star break this season. He is better at that particular thing than people realize. Especially when you look at the numbers compared to other players.

In comparision (post All-Star break on pull up 3s):
Giannis: 33.8%
Jaylen Brown: 33.3%
Jayson Tatum: 33.3%
Marcus Smart: 33.3%
Terry Rozier: 27.5%
Kyrie Irving: 26.4%

So we can pick and choose stats, well why not compare their career 3 point numbers? I didn't even check how many 3s he shot against DET but it was .280 from 3, 1st game was .330, one he didnt shoot any or didn't make I got no idea cause it was 0, .200 in another and .300 in the last. Don't try to compare him to Kyrie, Tatum, Smart is a bad shooter still in 5 years shoots the 3s better than Giannis, Terry has also been awful this season coming off the bench, he has the worst shooting numbers on our team during the regular season. How about the playoffs career 3s? Etc, etc...With that being said, I hope he shoots 4-5, maybe even 6 3s a game. It's a welcome sight, considering how well he did vs the Pistons.

Shaq was also 300 pounds and 7'2, did you really expect Shaq to have the skill to start from 3 point line?

Taking post All Star break numbers isn’t cherry picking stats. It’s the most recent and relevant large sample size.

Giannis was awful at shooting the first two months of the season. No argument there. Feel free to look back much further than the AS break. He has been a completely different shooter since January 1st.

He was awful in Nov Dec. Extremely awful.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Was Jordan not skilled? He shot 13% from 3 at age 24.

Giannis' efficiency around the basket is historically great. He can do it equally well with both hands and jumping off of either foot. You can't shade him to any weak shoulder or weak hand because he doesn't have one.

His footwork both on the drive and from the post is extremely skilled. No other 6'11" player has come close in terms of side-to-side quickness and ability to get by a defender with footwork. Shaq didn't have the skill to be a beast when starting his attack from outside the 3pt line. Giannis isn't just some huge guy that bullies in the post. It is his combination of size, speed, strength, and skill that make him so great.

Also, Giannis was 33.8% on pull-up off the dribble 3s after the All-Star break this season. He is better at that particular thing than people realize. Especially when you look at the numbers compared to other players.

In comparision (post All-Star break on pull up 3s):
Giannis: 33.8%
Jaylen Brown: 33.3%
Jayson Tatum: 33.3%
Marcus Smart: 33.3%
Terry Rozier: 27.5%
Kyrie Irving: 26.4%

So we can pick and choose stats, well why not compare their career 3 point numbers? I didn't even check how many 3s he shot against DET but it was .280 from 3, 1st game was .330, one he didnt shoot any or didn't make I got no idea cause it was 0, .200 in another and .300 in the last. Don't try to compare him to Kyrie, Tatum, Smart is a bad shooter still in 5 years shoots the 3s better than Giannis, Terry has also been awful this season coming off the bench, he has the worst shooting numbers on our team during the regular season. How about the playoffs career 3s? Etc, etc...With that being said, I hope he shoots 4-5, maybe even 6 3s a game. It's a welcome sight, considering how well he did vs the Pistons.

Shaq was also 300 pounds and 7'2, did you really expect Shaq to have the skill to start from 3 point line?

Taking post All Star break numbers isn’t cherry picking stats. It’s the most recent and relevant large sample size.

Giannis was awful at shooting the first two months of the season. No argument there. Feel free to look back much further than the AS break. He has been a completely different shooter since January 1st.

He was awful in Nov Dec. Extremely awful.

A large enough sample to have significance with respect to 3pt shooting is ~900 attempts. 65 is laughably small.

Said another way, the only reason your deeming these 65 attempts as more significant than the entire sample is because it paints the picture you want. Thats cherry picking statistics.

[captain green]

Sunday at one we go deer hunting. Let's bag four of those doe's

[JustinCredible]

So we can pick and choose stats, well why not compare their career 3 point numbers? I didn't even check how many 3s he shot against DET but it was .280 from 3, 1st game was .330, one he didnt shoot any or didn't make I got no idea cause it was 0, .200 in another and .300 in the last. Don't try to compare him to Kyrie, Tatum, Smart is a bad shooter still in 5 years shoots the 3s better than Giannis, Terry has also been awful this season coming off the bench, he has the worst shooting numbers on our team during the regular season. How about the playoffs career 3s? Etc, etc...With that being said, I hope he shoots 4-5, maybe even 6 3s a game. It's a welcome sight, considering how well he did vs the Pistons.

Shaq was also 300 pounds and 7'2, did you really expect Shaq to have the skill to start from 3 point line?

Taking post All Star break numbers isn’t cherry picking stats. It’s the most recent and relevant large sample size.

Giannis was awful at shooting the first two months of the season. No argument there. Feel free to look back much further than the AS break. He has been a completely different shooter since January 1st.

He was awful in Nov Dec. Extremely awful.

A large enough sample to have significance with respect to 3pt shooting is ~900 attempts. 65 is laughably small.

Said another way, the only reason your deeming these 65 attempts as more significant than the entire sample is because it paints the picture you want. Thats cherry picking statistics.

Ok.
So Tatum definitely isn't a shooter. Only has 553 career attempts. His percentage means nothing.
Jaylen Brown is shy of 900 attempts so he can't shoot either until he gives me an adequate sample size.
Brook Lopez is a pathetic shooter. Look at his career numbers. Gross. This entire season is just a fluke.

I didn't take some random sample. I took the easiest accessible recent sample. Post All-Star break.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if Giannis shoots 0% or 40% from 3 in the series. It is the difference of 1 to 2 possessions per game.

But if you don't think Giannis has skill, then you don't understand anything about basketball.

Enjoy the series.

[Darth Celtic]

Taking post All Star break numbers isn’t cherry picking stats. It’s the most recent and relevant large sample size.

Giannis was awful at shooting the first two months of the season. No argument there. Feel free to look back much further than the AS break. He has been a completely different shooter since January 1st.

He was awful in Nov Dec. Extremely awful.

A large enough sample to have significance with respect to 3pt shooting is ~900 attempts. 65 is laughably small.

Said another way, the only reason your deeming these 65 attempts as more significant than the entire sample is because it paints the picture you want. Thats cherry picking statistics.

Ok.
So Tatum definitely isn't a shooter. Only has 553 career attempts. His percentage means nothing.
Jaylen Brown is shy of 900 attempts so he can't shoot either until he gives me an adequate sample size.
Brook Lopez is a pathetic shooter. Look at his career numbers. Gross. This entire season is just a fluke.

I didn't take some random sample. I took the easiest accessible recent sample. Post All-Star break.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if Giannis shoots 0% or 40% from 3 in the series. It is the difference of 1 to 2 possessions per game.

But if you don't think Giannis has skill, then you don't understand anything about basketball.

Enjoy the series.

He has tons of skill. Shooting just isn't one of them.

[MagicBagley18]

Taking post All Star break numbers isn’t cherry picking stats. It’s the most recent and relevant large sample size.

Giannis was awful at shooting the first two months of the season. No argument there. Feel free to look back much further than the AS break. He has been a completely different shooter since January 1st.

He was awful in Nov Dec. Extremely awful.

A large enough sample to have significance with respect to 3pt shooting is ~900 attempts. 65 is laughably small.

Said another way, the only reason your deeming these 65 attempts as more significant than the entire sample is because it paints the picture you want. Thats cherry picking statistics.

Ok.
So Tatum definitely isn't a shooter. Only has 553 career attempts. His percentage means nothing.
Jaylen Brown is shy of 900 attempts so he can't shoot either until he gives me an adequate sample size.
Brook Lopez is a pathetic shooter. Look at his career numbers. Gross. This entire season is just a fluke.

I didn't take some random sample. I took the easiest accessible recent sample. Post All-Star break.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter if Giannis shoots 0% or 40% from 3 in the series. It is the difference of 1 to 2 possessions per game.

But if you don't think Giannis has skill, then you don't understand anything about basketball.

Enjoy the series.

enjoy your net ratings and double digit win totals because it’s the closest you’ll get to being the best the rest of the playoffs

[Celtic Esquire]

I find it hilarious that Bucks fans go out of their way, including cherry picking stats, to make Giannis this "perfect." He can't shoot period and that's nothing to be ashamed of.

Hell, a lot of Celtics can't shoot either, but I don't see us going full out H.A.M. to prove our points.

[FlatearthZorro]

I find it hilarious that Bucks fans go out of their way, including cherry picking stats, to make Giannis this "perfect." He can't shoot period and that's nothing to be ashamed of.

Hell, a lot of Celtics can't shoot either, but I don't see us going full out H.A.M. to prove our points.

True, I said both Rozier and Smart have been fairly bad shooting, although Smart improved a lot from last season.

[KamikazeK]

Celtics are 2-0 this postseason in the 1 pm Sunday slot.

Statement game coming up.

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[yeahM8]

another 3am game.

not that mad tho as we seems to play well in them.

[djFan71]

1 PM, Sunday. Of course, it's my girl's nephew's birthday. He's turning 11. We are going to a trampoline park. **** me.

On the bright side, at least I get to watch Avengers on Saturday.

But still....****.

Watch it from your phone if you can.

"It" being your girl's nephew's birthday. Stream that on the side while you watch the game.

[reload141]

another 3am game.

not that mad tho as we seems to play well in them.

Being a fellow Aussie what do you do with 3am games?

I just try and sleep through and wake up and log into these forums and see if there's a VC thread then rewatch the game

[yeahM8]

another 3am game.

not that mad tho as we seems to play well in them.

Being a fellow Aussie what do you do with 3am games?

I just try and sleep through and wake up and log into these forums and see if there's a VC thread then rewatch the game

try my best to sneak away quietly from the wife (it never works i always wake her haha) at 3am go into the living room and put on some wireless headphones and proceed to stand sit yell and punch the air with no noise. then go back to sleep at 6 and wake up at 9. im fortunate enough that i run my own business ha.

[reload141]

another 3am game.

not that mad tho as we seems to play well in them.

Being a fellow Aussie what do you do with 3am games?

I just try and sleep through and wake up and log into these forums and see if there's a VC thread then rewatch the game

try my best to sneak away quietly from the wife (it never works i always wake her haha) at 3am go into the living room and put on some wireless headphones and proceed to stand sit yell and punch the air with no noise. then go back to sleep at 6 and wake up at 9. im fortunate enough that i run my own business ha.

[yeahM8]

Being a fellow Aussie what do you do with 3am games?

I just try and sleep through and wake up and log into these forums and see if there's a VC thread then rewatch the game

try my best to sneak away quietly from the wife (it never works i always wake her haha) at 3am go into the living room and put on some wireless headphones and proceed to stand sit yell and punch the air with no noise. then go back to sleep at 6 and wake up at 9. im fortunate enough that i run my own business ha.

ty my g. we are all mvps in our own ways

[ViperGTS]

try my best to sneak away quietly from the wife (it never works i always wake her haha) at 3am go into the living room and put on some wireless headphones and proceed to stand sit yell and punch the air with no noise. then go back to sleep at 6 and wake up at 9. im fortunate enough that i run my own business ha.

ty my g. we are all mvps in our own ways

Kudos to you. I have played the Air Guitar numerous times. Air Drums are awesome too. But the Air Sports Fan? That is very interesting.