Buyout Thread: If Celtics get a player in buyout market, who would be cut?

[SLCceltic]

Serious question: Have you actually seen him play this year? That just not who he is anymore. He was struggling with their second unit in WAS. To paraphrase Pitino, "IT IS NOT COMING THROUGH THAT DOOR."

Of course I've seen him play this year and he is obviously not the same. WE DON'T NEED BOSTON IT! We need someone to come in and knock down shots under playoff pressure and to keep the ball moving!!

AND he would not be back next year. It would be a one shot deal for this PO run only, as Ainge would have an entire offseason and Draft to enhance the roster, plus our youngest guys will be a little more developed and experienced.

Is IT today as good as '08 Eddie House?? Could '08 eddie house help help our playoff run this year?? YES! & YES!! IT today is still much better than EH ever was!

We have a small 10-15 min role. 5-10 high% shots per game and keep the ball moving. IT's shooting in a couple of 5 min stretches will heavily outweigh any deficiencies from him on D.

No he's not and its not really even that close. So Doc waived him for nothing. Don't you think that if he was a valuable scorer for a playoff team they would've just kept him? He's not coming back because he does not have the skills to make a difference on a playoff team anymore. I wish he did, but he's not just not the same player, he's a shell of that player.

Clips waived him because what he has to offer is so ridiculously redundant there ....AND they can use his roster spot for something they dont already have 3 of!

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

I don't get this one. Saw him listed in a ringer article too. Why wouldn't MIN want to see what he can do the rest of the year? He was giving decent minutes in GSW. Hitting 39% on 3s. Seems worth keeping around. You're not saving $ waiving him, so???

If they have no intent to use him maybe they’re possibly just doing the right thing by the player (if he’s asking for a buyout). Word gets around about how organizations treat their players and Minnesota has some work to do in that area.

Yeah makes sense, I just don't know why they'd have no intent to use him.

Yeah I kinda agree but they’ve got so many new players, chemistry to build and decisions to make already.

If they see him on the very end of the bench, maybe even getting small minutes then letting him know and decide whether he wants to be bought out so he can get small minutes on a contender or big minutes somewhere else is good for their image. But he may not even get bought out or have I missed something?

[Celts17Pride]

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Like usual Minny doesn’t know what the hell they are doing

[Dogen]

Omari Spellman is another player who looks like they are getting bought out in Minnesota. Not certain but he is not with the team.

He’s a guy I’d def cut Javonte for.

There are some minor nuggets to be found out there. Spellman is a guy I liked on that draft, thought he’d be a decent bench big. Seemed like a prototypical modern stretch 4, albeit a bit underwhelming athletically.

Hate to keep throwing Javonte under the bus but this is another guy who would fit better.

[CeltsfaninDC]

:wink:

Of course I've seen him play this year and he is obviously not the same. WE DON'T NEED BOSTON IT! We need someone to come in and knock down shots under playoff pressure and to keep the ball moving!!

AND he would not be back next year. It would be a one shot deal for this PO run only, as Ainge would have an entire offseason and Draft to enhance the roster, plus our youngest guys will be a little more developed and experienced.

Is IT today as good as '08 Eddie House?? Could '08 eddie house help help our playoff run this year?? YES! & YES!! IT today is still much better than EH ever was!

We have a small 10-15 min role. 5-10 high% shots per game and keep the ball moving. IT's shooting in a couple of 5 min stretches will heavily outweigh any deficiencies from him on D.

No he's not and its not really even that close. So Doc waived him for nothing. Don't you think that if he was a valuable scorer for a playoff team they would've just kept him? He's not coming back because he does not have the skills to make a difference on a playoff team anymore. I wish he did, but he's not just not the same player, he's a shell of that player.

Clips waived him because what he has to offer is so ridiculously redundant there ....AND they can use his roster spot for something they dont already have 3 of!

I notice that you ignored the fact that he's not Eddie House or even a close facsimile. So what you're saying is that he wasn't better than <<checks Clips roster>> Landry Shamet, but he would be better here than anyone we have? I also need an explanation for this - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2875808-lakers-rumors-tyler-johnson-drawing-interest-from-lal-clippers-also-linked
If the Clips didn't need any guard help then why are they look at Tyler Johnson (who made $19MM this year - holy crap)

[SLCceltic]

:wink:

No he's not and its not really even that close. So Doc waived him for nothing. Don't you think that if he was a valuable scorer for a playoff team they would've just kept him? He's not coming back because he does not have the skills to make a difference on a playoff team anymore. I wish he did, but he's not just not the same player, he's a shell of that player.

Clips waived him because what he has to offer is so ridiculously redundant there ....AND they can use his roster spot for something they dont already have 3 of!

I notice that you ignored the fact that he's not Eddie House or even a close facsimile. So what you're saying is that he wasn't better than <<checks Clips roster>> Landry Shamet, but he would be better here than anyone we have? I also need an explanation for this - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2875808-lakers-rumors-tyler-johnson-drawing-interest-from-lal-clippers-also-linked
If the Clips didn't need any guard help then why are they look at Tyler Johnson (who made $19MM this year - holy crap)

No I actually went back and deleted my comments to you about eddie house because it felt a little contentious at the time

.....but since you asked, here is what I deleted
Please explain how Eddie frickn House (who I love, nothing but love EH, maybe my favorite role player of all time) is better than Isaiah Thomas 'and its not even that close' ?? This should be GOOD !

Here you go since you asked for it...

[SLCceltic]

If the Clips didn't need any guard help then why are they look at Tyler Johnson (who made $19MM this year - holy crap)

Tyler Johnson's skill set is entirely different from the bench scorers that Clips have plenty of. TJ is a much bigger grittier all-around regulator Defensive type that can score ...more Beverly than Lou

A desire to sign TJ supports exactly what I stated: That they cut IT in order to have a roster spot to sign someone that can help to fill an area of NEED ....and to not hang onto someone that they already had 3 of.

[CeltsfaninDC]

If the Clips didn't need any guard help then why are they look at Tyler Johnson (who made $19MM this year - holy crap)

Tyler Johnson's skill set is entirely different from the bench scorers that Clips have plenty of. TJ is a much bigger grittier all-around regulator Defensive type that can score ...more Beverly than Lou

A desire to sign TJ supports exactly what I stated: That they cut IT in order to have a roster spot to sign someone that can help to fill an area of NEED ....and to not hang onto someone that they already had 3 of.

So you're saying IT is too short and doesn't play D. agreed. But you said the Clips didn't need ANY guards which is why they waived him. Thats clearly not true. They just evaluated IT and came to the same conclusion as most - he can't help us. Keep moving those goalposts

[GoCeltics123]

I think a lot of people ready to cut Javonte should realize that he's one of Tatum and Brown's best friends on the team. Especially Tatum.

That could affect chemistry big-time.

[Celts17Pride]

I think a lot of people ready to cut Javonte should realize that he's one of Tatum and Brown's best friends on the team. Especially Tatum.

That could affect chemistry big-time.

Green will be gone next year so they better get over it.

[GoCeltics123]

I think a lot of people ready to cut Javonte should realize that he's one of Tatum and Brown's best friends on the team. Especially Tatum.

That could affect chemistry big-time.

Green will be gone next year so they better get over it.

I don't necessarily agree. He's getting paid nothing and has been really solid in his role.

Also, he has a NG second-year and is an RFA after that. That's a valuable contract for a guy that has production like him.

[Celts17Pride]

I think a lot of people ready to cut Javonte should realize that he's one of Tatum and Brown's best friends on the team. Especially Tatum.

That could affect chemistry big-time.

Green will be gone next year so they better get over it.

I don't necessarily agree. He's getting paid nothing and has been really solid in his role.

Also, he has a NG second-year and is an RFA after that. That's a valuable contract for a guy that has production like him.

3 first round draft picks. Decisions to be made on Waters and Fall. Green's chances are slim for next year.

[djFan71]

I think a lot of people ready to cut Javonte should realize that he's one of Tatum and Brown's best friends on the team. Especially Tatum.

That could affect chemistry big-time.

Green will be gone next year so they better get over it.

I don't necessarily agree. He's getting paid nothing and has been really solid in his role.

Also, he has a NG second-year and is an RFA after that. That's a valuable contract for a guy that has production like him.

Green's fine and all, but what production are you pointing at? His D is avg, he's got good energy, but beyond that what stands out to you?

[SLCceltic]

If the Clips didn't need any guard help then why are they look at Tyler Johnson (who made $19MM this year - holy crap)

Tyler Johnson's skill set is entirely different from the bench scorers that Clips have plenty of. TJ is a much bigger grittier all-around regulator Defensive type that can score ...more Beverly than Lou

A desire to sign TJ supports exactly what I stated: That they cut IT in order to have a roster spot to sign someone that can help to fill an area of NEED ....and to not hang onto someone that they already had 3 of.

So you're saying IT is too short and doesn't play D. agreed. But you said the Clips didn't need ANY guards which is why they waived him. Thats clearly not true. They just evaluated IT and came to the same conclusion as most - he can't help us. Keep moving those goalposts

Moving goalpoasts???
Didn't need ANY guards?
Too short?

All your words friend! I said they had plenty of similar bench role players, ITs current skill set would be ridiculously redundant to what they have already ....TJ is very diff from what they HAVE ALREADY.

Still waiting for your breakdown of Eddie House/ IT

[MagicBagley18]

Where still arguing about I FREAKING T come on. Give it up. He’s sucked 2 teams ago. it’s over. Defense is even worse now than then, we already have an undersized PG and we don’t need to go down memory lane with Isaiah and his brinks truck.

Been waived by 3 different teams and all pretty well respected coaches in doc, Malone, brooks- even if you don’t like them if he was so valuable wouldn’t one of them let him stick around. If you’re feeling sentimental go watch highlights

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Waive someone.


Sign Tacko to real deal.


Everyone is happy.

Everyone except the fellow who was waived.

[5InOfLouisville]

Tyler Johnson's skill set is entirely different from the bench scorers that Clips have plenty of. TJ is a much bigger grittier all-around regulator Defensive type that can score ...more Beverly than Lou

A desire to sign TJ supports exactly what I stated: That they cut IT in order to have a roster spot to sign someone that can help to fill an area of NEED ....and to not hang onto someone that they already had 3 of.

So you're saying IT is too short and doesn't play D. agreed. But you said the Clips didn't need ANY guards which is why they waived him. Thats clearly not true. They just evaluated IT and came to the same conclusion as most - he can't help us. Keep moving those goalposts

Still waiting for your breakdown of Eddie House/ IT

*obligatory mention of love for the little guy*

But 07-08 eddie house was better bc he was active. He was constantly running off screens and making defenses react to his movement.

When he was out there, he made the team better not only ny being a good 3 point shooter, but by commanding attention, creating lanes, and opening things up for his teammates.

IT today is still a good shooter, but otherwise just stands around and makes his team worse.

House was a poor defender, but about as good as prime IT, whereas IT today defends like IT today.

Again, no IT hate, just jumping in on why house then was better than him now

[djFan71]

Any thoughts on Jonah Bolden? I really only saw him in summer league a few years ago. Haven't caught him since. Measurables are nice, but no idea if he can play.

Suns apparently think he can...

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Marvin Williams: +20, 9 points, 4 rebounds

Watched the game, didn't see him do anything, but stats say he was useful in their loss.


Jonah Bolden, on the court right now: 1 steal, 2 blocks, 7 rebounds, 6 points, +23

Would have been a good fit with how Boston play.


MKG, is that his name? DNP


Would still take Bender over J Green, for roster balance and future upside.

[CeltsfaninDC]

Tyler Johnson's skill set is entirely different from the bench scorers that Clips have plenty of. TJ is a much bigger grittier all-around regulator Defensive type that can score ...more Beverly than Lou

A desire to sign TJ supports exactly what I stated: That they cut IT in order to have a roster spot to sign someone that can help to fill an area of NEED ....and to not hang onto someone that they already had 3 of.

So you're saying IT is too short and doesn't play D. agreed. But you said the Clips didn't need ANY guards which is why they waived him. Thats clearly not true. They just evaluated IT and came to the same conclusion as most - he can't help us. Keep moving those goalposts

Moving goalpoasts???
Didn't need ANY guards?
Too short?

All your words friend! I said they had plenty of similar bench role players, ITs current skill set would be ridiculously redundant to what they have already ....TJ is very diff from what they HAVE ALREADY.

Still waiting for your breakdown of Eddie House/ IT

Those were your words until you deleted them........ and you have moved the goalposts here. You said they waived him because they didn't need guards and when shown they are looking at a guard you changed you position. whatever... IT is not coming here regardless because as Doc has already determined he can't help a playoff team