Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract!

[Parliament10]

Plus, not for nothing, theres the elephant in the room about Haywards past political donations that I cant imagine rub people the right way. I wont steer the conversation into politics, but yah, this stuff matters.

If they move Hayward due to that shame on them. We have every right to our political opinions.

Move Hayward for basketball and financial reasons, never political ones..

Agree, on the "Basketball and Financial reasons".

[SmartWentCrazy]

Plus, not for nothing, theres the elephant in the room about Haywards past political donations that I cant imagine rub people the right way. I wont steer the conversation into politics, but yah, this stuff matters.

If they move Hayward due to that shame on them. We have every right to our political opinions.

Move Hayward for basketball and financial reasons, never political ones..

If they move Hayward cuz everyone resents him, they moved him for chemistry reasons.

[djFan71]

Plus, not for nothing, theres the elephant in the room about Haywards past political donations that I cant imagine rub people the right way. I wont steer the conversation into politics, but yah, this stuff matters.

If they move Hayward due to that shame on them. We have every right to our political opinions.

Move Hayward for basketball and financial reasons, never political ones..

If they move Hayward cuz everyone resents him, they moved him for chemistry reasons.

Didn't Hayward come in like 8th in the league in best teammate voting or something? I thought that was weird, because I would think with the injuries, coach's pet, politics, it could be more what you're implying. But, he is the perfect teammate on the court, almost too deferential if anything.

[SmartWentCrazy]

If they move Hayward due to that shame on them. We have every right to our political opinions.

Move Hayward for basketball and financial reasons, never political ones..

If they move Hayward cuz everyone resents him, they moved him for chemistry reasons.

Didn't Hayward come in like 8th in the league in best teammate voting or something? I thought that was weird, because I would think with the injuries, coach's pet, politics, it could be more what you're implying. But, he is the perfect teammate on the court, almost too deferential if anything.

Yes— here is the criteria:

Every year, 12 players, six from each conference, are nominated by a panel of NBA executives. NBA players then cast votes for the award, with ten points given for each first-place vote, seven for a second-place vote, five points for third, three points for fourth, and one point for each fifth-place vote received. The player with the highest point total, regardless of the number of first-place votes, wins the award.

Its definitely possible I’m suggesting a false conculsion. Just speculating some of the dudes marching probably didnt like the vitriol 45 was saying about them and could have been rubbed the wrong way.

[Taget]

Plus, not for nothing, theres the elephant in the room about Haywards past political donations that I cant imagine rub people the right way. I wont steer the conversation into politics, but yah, this stuff matters.

A few things to this.

1) There is no actual proof of this. I've seen it posted on reddit and twitter saying he donated to Trump without proof. Checking opensecrets and the FEC website (for the years 2015-2020) I see a Gordon Hayward has been donating to Democratic candidates including to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. I am pretty positive that is a different Gordon Hayward. Not that this matters. But this discussion does not even have underlying basis as far as I can tell.

2) Players like people change and evolve and their views shift. Danny supported both Bill Bradley and Mitt Romney for President. Charles Barkley went from saying silly stuff as a right-winger to saying silly stuff as a left-winger. Bob Cousy has moved to the right. Kevin McHale attended a MAGA rally. But he gave us Kevin Garnett. So all is good. I don't get the impression Tom Brady particularly cared less about politics but Trump supported him during deflate-gate. So he used to sometimes wear Trump's silly hat.

3) I don't particularly care what their politics are as long as they aren't actively hating groups or people. Neither do most fans. For years he most popular sports figure in New England has been Doug Flutie despite Flutie being a Republican. Albeit a pretty moderate one. To be honest with everything we have seen from a whole host of stars we kinda expect our "heroes" to be crazy. Politically, personally, whatever. Now do I hate Bill Laimbeer even more because he's an obnoxious Republican. I guess. But my hatred is so deep that it really didn't matter what he believes in. Republican, Democrat, or whatever doesn't change the fact I'll always treasure this.

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I'm still angry they didn't give Laimbeer a foul for illegally hitting Parish's arm with his face.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Plus, not for nothing, theres the elephant in the room about Haywards past political donations that I cant imagine rub people the right way. I wont steer the conversation into politics, but yah, this stuff matters.

A few things to this.

1) There is no actual proof of this. I've seen it posted on reddit and twitter saying he donated to Trump without proof. Checking opensecrets and the FEC website (for the years 2015-2020) I see a Gordon Hayward has been donating to Democratic candidates including to Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. I am pretty positive that is a different Gordon Hayward. Not that this matters. But this discussion does not even have underlying basis as far as I can tell.

2) Players like people change and evolve and their views shift. Danny supported both Bill Bradley and Mitt Romney for President. Charles Barkley went from saying silly stuff as a right-winger to saying silly stuff as a left-winger. Bob Cousy has moved to the right. Kevin McHale attended a MAGA rally. But he gave us Kevin Garnett. So all is good. I don't get the impression Tom Brady particularly cared less about politics but Trump supported him during deflate-gate. So he used to sometimes wear Trump's silly hat.

3) I don't particularly care what their politics are as long as they aren't actively hating groups or people. Neither do most fans. For years he most popular sports figure in New England has been Doug Flutie despite Flutie being a Republican. Albeit a pretty moderate one. To be honest with everything we have seen from a whole host of stars we kinda expect our "heroes" to be crazy. Politically, personally, whatever. Now do I hate Bill Laimbeer even more because he's an obnoxious Republican. I guess. But my hatred is so deep that it really didn't matter what he believes in. Republican, Democrat, or whatever doesn't change the fact I'll always treasure this.

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I'm still angry they didn't give Laimbeer a foul for illegally hitting Parish's arm with his face.

I wont respond to the rest [he def couldve changed; the players may not care], but Robyn unequivocally donated to Trump.

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Robyn+Hayward

[theman]

Plus, not for nothing, theres the elephant in the room about Haywards past political donations that I cant imagine rub people the right way. I wont steer the conversation into politics, but yah, this stuff matters.

If they move Hayward due to that shame on them. We have every right to our political opinions.

Move Hayward for basketball and financial reasons, never political ones..

If they move Hayward cuz everyone resents him, they moved him for chemistry reasons.

If players can not put politics aside they are less than professional. I have a training partner who differs with me on just about every political issue. But we get along great. More people need to draw inspiration from Voltaire: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Rusillo was on the Bill Simmons podcast yesterday and said that Hayward wanted out....but not badly enough to walk away from the $34 million. Lol. I wonder if there's a team out there who'd be willing to trade for him so they get his Bird rights next summer.

[ConstableGeneva]

If I'm Denver, Dallas, Utah, Indiana, Miami, Memphis, and Portland, I'm on the phone with his agent trying to gauge interest in staying there long-term.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Rusillo was on the Bill Simmons podcast yesterday and said that Hayward wanted out....but not badly enough to walk away from the $34 million. Lol. I wonder if there's a team out there who'd be willing to trade for him so they get his Bird rights next summer.

I guess Hayward was not happy with his time here? My guess is he ops out and Atlanta signs him. Then he goes on to put up 20/10 and goes back to his all star ways because that is the luck the celtics seem to have.

[LondonCeltics]

Damn, if Gordon edges his way out under his own volition after everything that's happened - gotta be a candidate for one of the most disappointing Celtic that's been with us since I started following.

[JHTruth]

Hayward is such a little b*tch man. Get him out of here. What kind of guy takes over $100mm from a franchise and provide negative value and then bails?

[celticpride17]

I blame the fans negativity and i also blame TATUM and BROWN remember those 2 spoiled brats complained when coach stevens put hayward back in as a starter after hayward returned from his injury. Instead of welcoming gordon back to the team they complained and made gordon feel somewhat unwanted.

[SmartWentCrazy]

If I'm Denver, Dallas, Utah, Indiana, Miami, Memphis, and Portland, I'm on the phone with his agent trying to gauge interest in staying there long-term.

Dallas just makes the most sense.

[SmartWentCrazy]

If we could get Curry, I’d be super happy. A dead eye shooter would open the floor tremendously for the Jay’s. Tatum would def average above 4 APG with all the open 3’s he’d generate.

[Captain_Caveman]

Seems to be some sort of insinuation that he has an agreement with the Hawks.

I had heard a trade to a different destination about a week ago.

**** losing Hayward for a TPE.

[ConstableGeneva]

If I'm Denver, Dallas, Utah, Indiana, Miami, Memphis, and Portland, I'm on the phone with his agent trying to gauge interest in staying there long-term.

Dallas just makes the most sense.

Yep, esp 'cos all the others have financial constraints besides Memphis, who may or may not ready to win/contend yet. Miami too but I think they have bigger plans.

[Feed Your Head]

I’m bummed that the Hayward deal didn’t work out, he was becoming a monster before his leg snapped in half. People who call him soft are lame as hell.

I’ll miss watching how under control he played, and his off ball cutting.

[yazfan]

This smells of Hayward's agent dropping stories trying to increase his value.

His agent has done Hayward quite well.

MAX contract's are relative to when you are drafted, based on formulas as everyone knows. I think Hayward was drafted #9 by Jazz, so decent money.

His 1st opportunity as a RFA, Jazz did not offer him Max, pissed him off so he got shopped. MJ and the Hornets offered him Max and 2 poison pills in contract(1. He had an early opt out after 3 years as a UFA if wanted, 25% trade penalty).

Since he was RFA, Jazz matched.

Hayward never said a word in Utah if he was leaving until he did. He looked at Miami, Utah and Boston.

Obviously we knew he picked us.

I still feel Crowder intentionally undercut him on the infamous play that cost his time with us. How Hayward survives in this league is impressive.

What I am getting at this IMO is all his agent, 0 from Hayward trying to sense/pump his value.

So far Hayward has gotten 2 MAX contracts of which I did not think he deserved either, but his agent got it.
I will be floored if he gets another Max, but his agent is good.
He also has a lot of sleeper stats that show well in paper exercise negotiations.....

My bet is he resigns a 4 year, close to MAX contract with Boston, we will see....

[SmartWentCrazy]

Seems to be some sort of insinuation that he has an agreement with the Hawks.

I had heard a trade to a different destination about a week ago.

**** losing Hayward for a TPE.

Hawks insiders seem to be insinuating he will opt in to be traded there, just needs to waive the kicker.

Also, if he opts in