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Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#361 » by darrendaye » Thu Jul 6, 2023 10:53 am

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Bohemian wrote:How many ways to spell Porzingis? People are just so creative :lol: :lol:

Yeah it's really not harder to spell than Williams or Brown.


Once I committed to memory there is no T, no struggle now lol.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#362 » by Bohemian » Thu Jul 6, 2023 10:53 am

BK_2020 wrote:
Bohemian wrote:How many ways to spell Porzingis? People are just so creative :lol: :lol:

Yeah it's really not harder to spell than Williams or Brown.


Yesterday people talked about a certain Siakim...Wonder who he is :lol:
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Post#363 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Jul 6, 2023 10:55 am

hugepatsfan wrote:Terence Davis had reported interest from 4 teams…

Dallas who seem pretty full on guards and wings now.

MIL who signed Malik Beasley

TOR who has 15 players signed now

Then us. I wonder if he’s still in play. Another guard/wing scorer would be nice for the bench.



I personally like Davis.

Love him as backup sg. Can shoot, handle, drive and defend.
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Post#364 » by darrendaye » Thu Jul 6, 2023 10:56 am

chrisab123 wrote:I feel like more people wanted Smart to stay over Jaylen Brown which is complete craziness. You also don't deal Brogdon for peanuts because you're mad about Marcus being traded.

Marcus and Grant were good role players but teams have won without them before. It can happen again. It really can.


Still need a part time poor man's Marcus Smart.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#365 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:04 am

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chrisab123 wrote:I feel like more people wanted Smart to stay over Jaylen Brown which is complete craziness. You also don't deal Brogdon for peanuts because you're mad about Marcus being traded.

Marcus and Grant were good role players but teams have won without them before. It can happen again. It really can.


Still need a part time poor man's Marcus Smart.


Well sure. My point being is that role players are for the most part interchangeable. The top end talent was upgraded and the depth downgraded. But thats also the usual ebb and flow with all contenders.

Look the Grit and Grind Grizzlies were a fun team to watch but you knew they weren't winning a title.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#366 » by RickyDizzle » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:05 am

Still some decent guys out there. Kelly Oubre scored 20 a game last year, is an agitator and can play both forward spots. Tj warren out there too. Montrez Harrell on minimum to preserve bigs during the regular season in a kanter-like role would be fine. Byombo, Ish Smith, Watford. Kaminsky or bol bol to replace muscala. Saric, Winslow, obviously Blake.
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Post#367 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:07 am

Putting Davison and Walsh on a two-way… we’d have:

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Timelord
Brogdon | Pritchard | Hauser | Brissett | Horford
Banton | FA1 | FA2 | FA3 | Kornet

I’m just gonna assume all three are minimum vet signings.

Javonte, Warren, and Griffin?
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#368 » by darrendaye » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:09 am

chrisab123 wrote:
darrendaye wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:I feel like more people wanted Smart to stay over Jaylen Brown which is complete craziness. You also don't deal Brogdon for peanuts because you're mad about Marcus being traded.

Marcus and Grant were good role players but teams have won without them before. It can happen again. It really can.


Still need a part time poor man's Marcus Smart.


Well sure. My point being is that role players are for the most part interchangeable. The top end talent was upgraded and the depth downgraded. But thats also the usual ebb and flow with all contenders.

Look the Grit and Grind Grizzlies were a fun team to watch but you knew they weren't winning a title.


I think we agree on the main point. Just saying Brad can't be done. Agree Brogdon should stay. But Brad needs to identify defensive role players now.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#369 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:11 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Putting Davison and Walsh on a two-way… we’d have:

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Timelord
Brogdon | Pritchard | Hauser | Brissett | Horford
Banton | FA1 | FA2 | FA3 | Kornet

I’m just gonna assume all three are minimum vet signings.

Javonte, Warren, and Griffin?


I do hope Blake comes back. He did well starting over Horford last year. We probably should have burned him out a bit more to keep Horford fresh for the offs.
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Post#370 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:12 am

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BK_2020 wrote:
Bohemian wrote:How many ways to spell Porzingis? People are just so creative :lol: :lol:

Yeah it's really not harder to spell than Williams or Brown.


Yesterday people talked about a certain Siakim...Wonder who he is :lol:


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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#371 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:15 am

BRUNiNHO91 wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Putting Davison and Walsh on a two-way… we’d have:

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Timelord
Brogdon | Pritchard | Hauser | Brissett | Horford
Banton | FA1 | FA2 | FA3 | Kornet

I’m just gonna assume all three are minimum vet signings.

Javonte, Warren, and Griffin?


I do hope Blake comes back. He did well starting over Horford last year. We probably should have burned him out a bit more to keep Horford fresh for the offs.


Blake is a good glue guy. I think a common misconception here is that grit = glue. Thats not true. Blake is someone who can help lighten the mood. I do think they need another defensive minded wing or two. Issac would be perfect if he was cheaper.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#372 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:17 am

RickyDizzle wrote:Still some decent guys out there. Kelly Oubre scored 20 a game last year, is an agitator and can play both forward spots. Tj warren out there too. Montrez Harrell on minimum to preserve bigs during the regular season in a kanter-like role would be fine. Byombo, Ish Smith, Watford. Kaminsky or bol bol to replace muscala. Saric, Winslow, obviously Blake.


Oubre would be interesting. The team has had interest in him before too. I could see him getting 10-15 minutes a night here.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#373 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:24 am

You guys willing to trade White, Brogs, Champagnie, and two 1st round picks for Dame?
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Post#374 » by cloverleaf » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:25 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Putting Davison and Walsh on a two-way… we’d have:

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Timelord
Brogdon | Pritchard | Hauser | Brissett | Horford
Banton | FA1 | FA2 | FA3 | Kornet

I’m just gonna assume all three are minimum vet signings.

Javonte, Warren, and Griffin?


That's part of why I think they're still working hard to ship out Brogdon: to have financial room for more depth beyond just vet minimum guys.
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Post#375 » by CelticsPride18 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:29 am

cloverleaf wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Putting Davison and Walsh on a two-way… we’d have:

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Timelord
Brogdon | Pritchard | Hauser | Brissett | Horford
Banton | FA1 | FA2 | FA3 | Kornet

I’m just gonna assume all three are minimum vet signings.

Javonte, Warren, and Griffin?


That's part of why I think they're still working hard to ship out Brogdon: to have financial room for more depth beyond just vet minimum guys.


The FA market is thin right now we aren’t trading Brogdon to use the MLE
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#376 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:30 am

White, Brogs, and two 1st round picks will trump any Miami offer.

Portland can do whatever they want with White and Brogs.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#377 » by Fierce1 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:31 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:Putting Davison and Walsh on a two-way… we’d have:

White | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis | Timelord
Brogdon | Pritchard | Hauser | Brissett | Horford
Banton | FA1 | FA2 | FA3 | Kornet

I’m just gonna assume all three are minimum vet signings.

Javonte, Warren, and Griffin?


That's part of why I think they're still working hard to ship out Brogdon: to have financial room for more depth beyond just vet minimum guys.


The FA market is thin right now we aren’t trading Brogdon to use the MLE

LOL

Trading the 6th Man of the Year so you can use the MLE???

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#378 » by snowman » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:39 am

This is the lineup I see Boston having, and the options just from in house to add to it.

Starters:
White, Brown, Tatum, RW3, Porzingis
I would put this starting unit against any in the league. In my green font glasses, I see this as top 3 in the league, if not the best. Not a player in their 30's yet, and all (after Brown signs his super max, and Porzingis extension is listed) signed for at least 2 years.

Rotational bench:
Brogdon, Banton, Hauser, Horford, Kornet
While I look at this bench lineup, I see a bit of everything. Horford and Brogdon are the vet leaders, Kornet is a very poor man's Porzingis, Banton the secondary ball handler and along with Brogdon the can distribute the ball and drive the rim, and Hauser the outside marksman. Lots of size here verses last season. Kornet (7'2) Horford (6'10) Hauser (6'8) Banton (6'7) and Brogdon (6'4). Also, look at the size comparisons with the starting lineup. (Porzingis 7'3-Kornet 7'2), (RW3 6'9-Horford 6'10), (Tatum 6'9-Hauser 6'8), (Brown 6'6-Banton 6'7), (White 6'4-Brogdon 6'4) They seem very interchangeable with the starting lineup, and they don't lose any size.

Remaining bench of five regular and three 2-way roster spots to fill:
Pritchard (shooting specialist /energy guy), Champagnie (athletic 6'6 energy guy), Davison (super athletic 6'3 energetic lane driver / distributor), Walsh (athletic 6'7 defensive specialist / tough guy), Brissette (athletic 6'7 rim runner) (and possibly from our summer league) Balcerowksi (athletic 7'1), Valerio-Bodon (athletic 6'9 shooter) Azubuike (6'10 big body/ old school inside banger)

Combine that with the possibility of more additions to the roster and I see a much more balanced, much more athletic, bigger team than last season. Also, at this point, Horford and Brogdon are the only players over 30, so a much younger team. This looks like a team built for winning now and the future.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#379 » by jirrit » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:41 am

darrendaye wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:I feel like more people wanted Smart to stay over Jaylen Brown which is complete craziness. You also don't deal Brogdon for peanuts because you're mad about Marcus being traded.

Marcus and Grant were good role players but teams have won without them before. It can happen again. It really can.


Still need a part time poor man's Marcus Smart.

Didnt Pat Beverley said in his podcast he was offered a contract by us?
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24 

Post#380 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jul 6, 2023 11:44 am

Fierce1 wrote:You guys willing to trade White, Brogs, Champagnie, and two 1st round picks for Dame?


Depends if Dame would agree to report to camp. Everything else would be a nobrainer

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