2024 NBA Draft Thread, part 2 – (June 26 & 27)

[Celts17Pride]

Yam and Begarin were picked 47 and 45. Guys picked in those spots, really after 40, almost never amount to anything. Those are real long shot type draft spots.

I get that but I prefer them to fail here after getting a chance instead of always wondering what could have been.

Right now the Celtics rotation is about 8 players deep with some spot minutes available. Joe doesn't play a deep bench. I agree that it would be good to see more guys brought along, but they can't succeed (or fail) if they don't play.

For a guy like Madar, I think it's tough to go from being "the man" in one's own country to being a G-Leaguer or watching from the bench in Boston.

Maybe this year, with a chip under his belt, Joe will be open to digging deeper into the bench. Walsh and Queta deserve a shot, and Springer. Maybe a draft guy. I think the overseas guys will be waiting once again.

Yam Madar and #54 to the Spurs for #35

[Larry_Russell]

If we could land one of

Mogdo or Filipowski
and
Tyson or Jones

I would **** myself out of excitment

[Larry_Russell]

I get that but I prefer them to fail here after getting a chance instead of always wondering what could have been.

Right now the Celtics rotation is about 8 players deep with some spot minutes available. Joe doesn't play a deep bench. I agree that it would be good to see more guys brought along, but they can't succeed (or fail) if they don't play.

For a guy like Madar, I think it's tough to go from being "the man" in one's own country to being a G-Leaguer or watching from the bench in Boston.

Maybe this year, with a chip under his belt, Joe will be open to digging deeper into the bench. Walsh and Queta deserve a shot, and Springer. Maybe a draft guy. I think the overseas guys will be waiting once again.

Yam Madar and #54 to the Spurs for #35

Or maybe Begarin? or Both?

[31to6]

I didn’t want to give up on Yam and Begarin but they aren’t coming 10 years later! I’m so upset because I put a lot of energy in both. JD isn’t even going to be here and I put even more into him! I hate the staff method! Most trans never bring the people over and we never have all the way to Colton! Stop wasting my fanaticism!

Yam and Begarin were picked 47 and 45. Guys picked in those spots, really after 40, almost never amount to anything. Those are real long shot type draft spots.

I get that but I prefer them to fail here after getting a chance instead of always wondering what could have been.

I’m still on Begarin Island. I’ll go down with this thing as global warming raises the sea levels! Blurb blurb blub this kid looks like he has NBA potential to me!

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Begarin is not an NBA player and until Madar improves defensively, he isn't one either, so they have very minimal
trade value, if any and should be considered busts, unless something dramatically changes.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Begarin is not an NBA player and until Madar improves defensively, he isn't one either, so they have very minimal
trade value, if any and should be considered busts, unless something dramatically changes.

2nd round picks can never be considered busts, IMO

[Larry_Russell]

Yam and Begarin were picked 47 and 45. Guys picked in those spots, really after 40, almost never amount to anything. Those are real long shot type draft spots.

I get that but I prefer them to fail here after getting a chance instead of always wondering what could have been.

I’m still on Begarin Island. I’ll go down with this thing as global warming raises the sea levels! Blurb blurb blub this kid looks like he has NBA potential to me!

I was looking into him earlier today, absolutely shocked that he was drafted 3 years ago now.

And he regressed last season in his play. .

40% fg
25% 3pt
60% ft

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Begarin is not an NBA player and until Madar improves defensively, he isn't one either, so they have very minimal
trade value, if any and should be considered busts, unless something dramatically changes.

2nd round picks can never be considered busts, IMO

If they can be considered Stars, they can be considered Busts...

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

I don't think Baylor will be available at 30, because he has too many positive attributes to drop that far,
but NBA DraftNet's Aron Smith offers hope:

30. Boston Baylor Scheierman 6-7, Ht 6-8 Ws, 200 lbs, SF Crieghton Sr.

Scheierman was one of the big winners at the combine, leaping a very surprising 32 inch maximum vertical. While it doesn’t sound like much, it’s a lot better than a number of the other “less athletic” players that were measured. Scheierman is a sharpshooter and has a smooth all around game with the ability to create shots and pass. He sort of plays at a different speed, but has found ways to be effective and create shots despite lacking ideal foot speed. As one of the draft’s top shooters, and an impressive pre-draft run, he stands a good chance to go in the last few picks of the first round.

Why the Celtics select Baylor Scheierman; Boston has a few players they are targeting and Schierman is a player that they are high on. He would give them another quality shooter on a rookie deal and works within their title window as a skilled player that can contribute right away. Ajay Mitchell is said to be in the mix here as well. Boston is looking to move out of this pick, and add second rounders and/or future picks in return.

NBA Comparison: Sam Hauser

[Joshyjess]

My guess - Boston trades their two picks for future picks, and don't actually take anybody in this draft.
They might even trade next year's picks as well for better future picks.
I just don't see anybody being taken either this year or next that has a chance of getting any playing time. Why not instead set yourself up for better picks in the future.

If you're a betting man, you'll probably win this bet. But NBA draft is like a summer holiday for most of us. When I'm taking the pizza out of the oven at pick 29, I don't want to hear "The Boston Celtics have traded pick #30 for 2 second round picks in 2030"

Sure, like everyone else, I wait with baited breath to hear what Boston is going to do with their pick, and I also feel a major let down when I hear that they traded it away. But I just don't think they will take anyone this year.

[phincsfan]

I hope a 1st rd graded guy they like is there at #30. If not, oh well don't reach. Trading back works.

[Joshyjess]

My guess - Boston trades their two picks for future picks, and don't actually take anybody in this draft.
They might even trade next year's picks as well for better future picks.
I just don't see anybody being taken either this year or next that has a chance of getting any playing time. Why not instead set yourself up for better picks in the future.

Because we need to actively develop cost effective young talent that can play to keep the window open with Tatum/Brown.

The thing is, we already have some really good young talent who are doing just that. I don't see them realistically adding any more young talent who will most likely not get a reasonable chance to play outside of Maine in the next few years, when it's hard enough trying to get that time for who we already have.
I just think it would be better to focus on the 2 or 3 young guys who are trying so hard to get playing time now. Keep developing the the guys we already have by giving them more floor time and instead trade these picks for better picks down the road. If 2 or 3 late 1st round and mid-to-late second round picks can be traded for a future mid 1st round, then to me it's a much better use of those picks.

[Celts17Pride]

My guess - Boston trades their two picks for future picks, and don't actually take anybody in this draft.
They might even trade next year's picks as well for better future picks.
I just don't see anybody being taken either this year or next that has a chance of getting any playing time. Why not instead set yourself up for better picks in the future.

If you're a betting man, you'll probably win this bet. But NBA draft is like a summer holiday for most of us. When I'm taking the pizza out of the oven at pick 29, I don't want to hear "The Boston Celtics have traded pick #30 for 2 second round picks in 2030"

Sure, like everyone else, I wait with baited breath to hear what Boston is going to do with their pick, and I also feel a major let down when I hear that they traded it away. But I just don't think they will take anyone this year.

Celtics have to take someone in the draft the next few years. Celtics have no other way to add talent and get better. Now they may move from 30 to the 2nd round but they will be taking players. Brad Stevens has to hit on some draft picks the next few years to keep this thing going.

Over the next 1-3 years Brad Stevens has to hit on finding a few player that can play 15-20 mpg off the bench otherwise the Celtics window will closed real fast.

[Parliament10]

How does it happen, that the 2nd Round is more exciting that the 1st?
This is so weird.

[ConstableGeneva]

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[Joshyjess]

My guess - Boston trades their two picks for future picks, and don't actually take anybody in this draft.
They might even trade next year's picks as well for better future picks.
I just don't see anybody being taken either this year or next that has a chance of getting any playing time. Why not instead set yourself up for better picks in the future.

Look at the career trajectory of a guy like Robert Williams. He hardly played as a rookie. He was a spot player as a 2nd year guy. In year 3 he started to emerge as a rotation player with some warts. In year 4 was when he really "put it together".

Look at Grant Williams. That's a guy who came in generally considered "NBA ready". In year 1 he played a good amount but couldn't shoot. In year 2 he learned to shoot. In year 3 was when he was ready to really be a good role player.

Derrick White was drafted #29 and essentially red shirted a year.

Jimmy Butler is probably the best late 1st round pick ever (or close to it) and he was a nothing in year 1. Neither was Draymond Green in year 1 and he wasn't even anything more than a bench player in year 2.



Even if there isn't a need for someone to play minutes this year, a guy we take this year is more likely to contribute at a high level us 1, 2 or 3 years from now than a guy we draft later. You have to factor in development timelines. We aren't picking at a stage of the draft where you get NBA ready studs most of the time.

Sure, there's always a chance that a guy picked later might become something great (the conversation begins in end with Tom Brady), but I think it's a much higher chance that if you can trade 2,3 or even 4 late 1st round, to mid-late second round picks for a mid 1st round pick later on, then you are giving yourself a much better chance of getting a higher quality player - especially when we already have some really good young talent that need to be given more developmental time right now.

[Celts17Pride]

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Surprised no Carsen Edwards, James Young or Tremont Waters on that list.

[djFan71]

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Severely out of date. Still has MJ over JB.

[Parliament10]

If you're a betting man, you'll probably win this bet. But NBA draft is like a summer holiday for most of us. When I'm taking the pizza out of the oven at pick 29, I don't want to hear "The Boston Celtics have traded pick #30 for 2 second round picks in 2030"

Sure, like everyone else, I wait with baited breath to hear what Boston is going to do with their pick, and I also feel a major let down when I hear that they traded it away. But I just don't think they will take anyone this year.

Celtics have to take someone in the draft the next few years. Celtics have no other way to add talent and get better. Now they may move from 30 to the 2nd round but they will be taking players. Brad Stevens has to hit on some draft picks the next few years to keep this thing going.

Over the next 1-3 years Brad Stevens has to hit on finding a few player that can play 15-20 mpg off the bench otherwise the Celtics window will closed real fast.

Jordan Walsh looks like he'll pan out. He did well in the G League; went to the G League Championship.
Walsh was picked 38. JD Davison was picked 53; and seems like he could be a 3rd PG.

[Celts17Pride]

Sure, like everyone else, I wait with baited breath to hear what Boston is going to do with their pick, and I also feel a major let down when I hear that they traded it away. But I just don't think they will take anyone this year.

Celtics have to take someone in the draft the next few years. Celtics have no other way to add talent and get better. Now they may move from 30 to the 2nd round but they will be taking players. Brad Stevens has to hit on some draft picks the next few years to keep this thing going.

Over the next 1-3 years Brad Stevens has to hit on finding a few player that can play 15-20 mpg off the bench otherwise the Celtics window will closed real fast.

Jordan Walsh looks like he'll pan out. He did well in the G League; went to the G League Championship.
Walsh was picked 38. JD Davison was picked 53; and seems like he could be a 3rd PG.

Jordan Walsh is far from a sure thing right now. Next year will be big for JW. JD Davison will be on a new team by 2025-2026 or earlier.