Celtics General Offseason Thread Pt. 8: You're Killing Me Smalls

[zoyathedestroya]

Knicks need to use that cap space on someone fast. Maybe James Young or Vitor Faverani. Anyone.

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In May they were rumored to have interest in Mook.

Both Morrises haven't been signed yet? Could be waiting for Lakers not to sign that third star. Both land in LA.

[Ed Pinkney]

Any word on Steve Adams?

Can the sign and trade shenanigans they were trying to maneuver to keep Horford be used to get the capspace needed to try and trade for him without giving up core assets?

[robdog_5]

Cap space is soaking up. Clutch telling them we get Kawhi lebron is gonna give you the vet min special boys

[Andrew McCeltic]

Can we get in on a Horford to PHI, Butler to MIA, pieces to BOS sign and trade? Even Hassan Whiteside’s expiring would be a good piece.

Whitesside will come with huge character concerns, dude thinks he's much better than who he is(who he's been)..

I would absolutely bring in Whiteside and hope to unleash him !! he is PERFECT for what we are ...change of scenery would fire him up

Not perfect - I’d buy him out mid season if we hadn’t found a trade - but not any worse than Kanter, and adding some trade flexibility..

[FlatearthZorro]

Danny should also beg Theis to come back somehow. He's a pretty decent role player, think he'll be even better with minutes.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Any word on Steve Adams?

Can the sign and trade shenanigans they were trying to maneuver to keep Horford be used to get the capspace needed to try and trade for him without giving up core assets?

Horford to PHI, Butler to MIA, something to OKC..

Even sending out Horford and getting a trade exception back would be helpful, but we’d probably have to add a second rounder..

[KevinGamble34]

Danny should also beg Theis to come back somehow. He's a pretty decent role player, think he'll be even better with minutes.

Has he signed anywhere? I assume we would get him once the dust settles.

[FlatearthZorro]

Danny should also beg Theis to come back somehow. He's a pretty decent role player, think he'll be even better with minutes.

Has he signed anywhere? I assume we would get him once the dust settles.

No, he hasn't I think, and I believe he can give us a lots of stuff we might lack- rebounding, shot blocking, defense and 3 point shooting for 20 mins a game. So we need him back.

[Fencer reregistered]

Can we get in on a Horford to PHI, Butler to MIA, pieces to BOS sign and trade? Even Hassan Whiteside’s expiring would be a good piece.

I was thinking about it more and the problem is we either a) renounce Al to sign Kemba into space, or b) we need to take Kemba back for Al in the S&T. We don't have any more room to absorb anything. Would need to be a 4th team, and at that point, we become the 4th team in a 3 team trade.

If Philly wants it then they can structure Al's deal so that the difference between his salary and Kemba's isn't that huge. We also start w/ Baynes' salary and half of Rozier's, if that part of the Charlotte rumor is true. And there are ways to add to that w/o Brooklyn's help, e.g. if we can get help from Morris' eventual deal.

[BillessuR6]

Are people really having meltdowns because we haven`t signed second tier bigs?

[Andrew McCeltic]

If we aren’t able to work sign and trades to get the MLE, I’d give Theis his full 9.2 million for two years - second year partially guaranteed - BYC comes off next summer..

[FlatearthZorro]

Cap space is soaking up. Clutch telling them we get Kawhi lebron is gonna give you the vet min special boys

Most of the good role players are gone. Interesting M Morris hasn't gotten a contract... He was talking about big money and **** and Rich Paul is keeping him on hold to see if LBJ gets a big time FA while guys like Aminu who averaged 9/6 are getting about 14 mils a year.

[robdog_5]

Are people really having meltdowns because we haven`t signed second tier bigs?

I'm more upset at what seems to me to be a lack of imagination or guts to make some shrewd moves I see some teams doing

[FlatearthZorro]

Are people really having meltdowns because we haven`t signed second tier bigs?

We literally don't have any bigs, lad. Bob and Grant Williams. That's it. Yabu is borderline useless unless he lost a bit of weight.

[Brisbane_Celtic]

Are people really having meltdowns because we haven`t signed second tier bigs?

To be fair we aren't beating the Sixers or Bucks without one in 7 games. So I feel like its warranted. Timelord, Williams, Yabu and Theis (not even sure about Theis?) our current bigs I believe?

[SLCceltic]

Whitesside will come with huge character concerns, dude thinks he's much better than who he is(who he's been)..

I would absolutely bring in Whiteside and hope to unleash him !! he is PERFECT for what we are ...change of scenery would fire him up

Not perfect - I’d buy him out mid season if we hadn’t found a trade - but not any worse than Kanter, and adding some trade flexibility..

He is exactly what we need imho a perfect fit for us, has size and some offensive skill he is an elite rebounder and defender. ..runs floor like deer

Hassan Whiteside would be HUGE for current roster.

[ParticleMan]

theis is not that good. i'd just go with that french dude poirot or whatever slotting into theis's role. he's bulkier and has a badass stache.

[robdog_5]

Seeing Yabs on roster is pathetic. Such a waste of pick and space

[grindtime22]

It's actually pretty rational.

On a side not to me worst contract so far: Murray, no way in **** Hell he's getting 30_ mils a year. Dude averaged over 15 pts on .430 from the field .367 from 3. Dude ain't nothing special. That's superstar(ish) money.

he's pretty damn good and he's ascending. They're paying him for his future performances not past. 18-4-5 and 37% from three at 21 y/o is pretty good. They obviously see upside to come.

He averaged 15 this year, lad. He's very limited defensively cause of his frame and if his shot is off, he's basically useless. He's a scoring combo guard. I'd take Brown over him 20 out of 20 times and Murray has gotten way more opportunities to shine than Brown has.

Nah Murray averaged 18 this year in the regular season and 21 in the playoffs. He is a good shooter that is probably only going to get better. Catch and shoot, off the dribble, he has both of them. He has the ability to be a star scorer although he didn't show star efficiency this year (he did last year). He is an obvious 20+ scorer in the future. He doesn't do it on the other end though.

With all that said, it does seem to be a little premature to hand that out right now. Its not like they are at risk of losing him anytime soon. He is a foundational piece for them, but he isn't the a surefire all star/all nba guy just yet. You have another year til he hits free agency. It makes sense to get a deal done now if there is a benefit to both sides. The full max though? I don't see the benefit to the Nuggets. What's the rush? He isn't turning down that same deal next summer.

[brackdan70]

Are people really having meltdowns because we haven`t signed second tier bigs?

It appears so.