Trade Thread 2023, con't – Thurs, Feb 9, 3:00PM, EST

[Feed Your Head]

I think the combo of it being in-season plus not having Ime anymore kinda killed the KD thing.

Unless JB said he wasn't staying, which he's given no indication of. Still, I can imagine Brad watches the Tatum-less lineups led by JB struggle and does think about it lol.

This team badly needs a backup wing though, badly. It's just hard to watch them at this point some nights when Tatum has to play 48 minutes to beat bad teams.

My issue with “bringing in new wing to take some of JT’s minutes” is if JB can’t consistently positively impact the the JT-less units (while already paired with Brogdon), how can we expect said wing to?

Joe is hesitant to sit JT cos we kinda suck when he does. I don’t think that changes unless the wing we bring in is KD, Giannis, or Lebron. Taking over Hauser’s minutes is a different matter though. Always good to have another option not named Jackson (useless) or PP (too small and hasn’t shot well either).

I disagree with first part of this analysis. Almost every game, Joe pulls Tatum early when the other team’s starters are still out there. Even if JB led team plays even or loses a little ground against other team’s starters, it’s a huge asset to team to have JT come back in and have the ability go off leading the bench unit against other team’s bench. .

It’s not really against other teams starters tbh, most teams have at least 3 subs in by the 4/5 minute mark, including their best player usually. Pretty much every team with the exception of the Nuggets (and Sixers to a lesser extent) do a rotation similar to the Celtics.

The Jaylen led lineups struggle, whether it’s against other starters or other benches. Their net rating with Jaylen on and Tatum off would be 23rd in the league, and that’s with garbage time filtered out. I think there are some in house things Joe could try to help and fix that (less Brogdon with Jaylen, and more White. Or Jaylen more off ball with Brogdon being the set up guy.), but zoya is right, there’s no available wing out there that will help the situation. Which is why the Celtics are looking at big men instead.

[Feed Your Head]

Just to add to the above, Jaylen isn’t going anywhere, we know that. So I just want the team to make some adjustments to try and get the most out of the Jaylen led lineups, and I think there’s some things that could help, at least a little bit. I do think we are seeing the limits to him this season though, and that he’s likely in the he is what he is stage.

[Celts17Pride]

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[Feed Your Head]

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Makes sense

Beautiful return.

[Green89]

I begged Ainge to draft Isaiah Stewart but he didn't listen to me.

Fightin' Mo Bamba is also rumored to be available.

Hard pass on Bamba. He hasn't played up to his draft selection yet, and couldn't even keep his starting role on one of the worst teams in the league. He's also not a nice guy (see 4 game suspension). No thanks.

[fallguy]

The fascination with Mo Bamba perplexes me.

[GoCeltics123]

My issue with “bringing in new wing to take some of JT’s minutes” is if JB can’t consistently positively impact the the JT-less units (while already paired with Brogdon), how can we expect said wing to?

Joe is hesitant to sit JT cos we kinda suck when he does. I don’t think that changes unless the wing we bring in is KD, Giannis, or Lebron. Taking over Hauser’s minutes is a different matter though. Always good to have another option not named Jackson (useless) or PP (too small and hasn’t shot well either).

I disagree with first part of this analysis. Almost every game, Joe pulls Tatum early when the other team’s starters are still out there. Even if JB led team plays even or loses a little ground against other team’s starters, it’s a huge asset to team to have JT come back in and have the ability go off leading the bench unit against other team’s bench. .

It’s not really against other teams starters tbh, most teams have at least 3 subs in by the 4/5 minute mark, including their best player usually. Pretty much every team with the exception of the Nuggets (and Sixers to a lesser extent) do a rotation similar to the Celtics.

The Jaylen led lineups struggle, whether it’s against other starters or other benches. Their net rating with Jaylen on and Tatum off would be 23rd in the league, and that’s with garbage time filtered out. I think there are some in house things Joe could try to help and fix that (less Brogdon with Jaylen, and more White. Or Jaylen more off ball with Brogdon being the set up guy.), but zoya is right, there’s no available wing out there that will help the situation. Which is why the Celtics are looking at big men instead.

The thing is that the wing buyout market could be very good or very bad. Like it'd be weird for the team to not pursue buyout wings if the market has guys like McDermott, T Ross, or hell even J Rich (very doubtful). Barton I'm good passing on lol

[Curmudgeon]

Just to add to the above, Jaylen isn’t going anywhere, we know that. So I just want the team to make some adjustments to try and get the most out of the Jaylen led lineups, and I think there’s some things that could help, at least a little bit. I do think we are seeing the limits to him this season though, and that he’s likely in the he is what he is stage.

If your first and last sentences are true, then Stevens isn't cold blooded enough.

[zoyathedestroya]

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LAL gets Irving
SAS gets Westbrook, picks
BKN gets Poeltl, JRich, McDermott

???

[GoCeltics123]

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LAL gets Irving
SAS gets Westbrook, picks
BKN gets Poeltl, JRich, McDermott

???

Idk how reliable the guy is but apparently he says the Nets and Spurs want multiple picks in a deal and the guys the Nets want are J Rich and Collins

[MagicBagley18]

I’m fine with Barton as a buy out… the catch and shoot numbers are intriguing enough for me to take a flier on a buyout which we got because of the dpe. Most buyouts are meaningless but he’d at least have the open looks here.

The fact that there’s “mutual interest” being reported already means that it likely gets done IF he’s bought out. Don’t see McDermott getting bought out.

[Andrew McCeltic]

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Clips have to make that trade 100/100 times

[Green89]

I disagree with first part of this analysis. Almost every game, Joe pulls Tatum early when the other team’s starters are still out there. Even if JB led team plays even or loses a little ground against other team’s starters, it’s a huge asset to team to have JT come back in and have the ability go off leading the bench unit against other team’s bench. .

It’s not really against other teams starters tbh, most teams have at least 3 subs in by the 4/5 minute mark, including their best player usually. Pretty much every team with the exception of the Nuggets (and Sixers to a lesser extent) do a rotation similar to the Celtics.

The Jaylen led lineups struggle, whether it’s against other starters or other benches. Their net rating with Jaylen on and Tatum off would be 23rd in the league, and that’s with garbage time filtered out. I think there are some in house things Joe could try to help and fix that (less Brogdon with Jaylen, and more White. Or Jaylen more off ball with Brogdon being the set up guy.), but zoya is right, there’s no available wing out there that will help the situation. Which is why the Celtics are looking at big men instead.

The thing is that the wing buyout market could be very good or very bad. Like it'd be weird for the team to not pursue buyout wings if the market has guys like McDermott, T Ross, or hell even J Rich (very doubtful). Barton I'm good passing on lol

[31to6]

It’s not really against other teams starters tbh, most teams have at least 3 subs in by the 4/5 minute mark, including their best player usually. Pretty much every team with the exception of the Nuggets (and Sixers to a lesser extent) do a rotation similar to the Celtics.

The Jaylen led lineups struggle, whether it’s against other starters or other benches. Their net rating with Jaylen on and Tatum off would be 23rd in the league, and that’s with garbage time filtered out. I think there are some in house things Joe could try to help and fix that (less Brogdon with Jaylen, and more White. Or Jaylen more off ball with Brogdon being the set up guy.), but zoya is right, there’s no available wing out there that will help the situation. Which is why the Celtics are looking at big men instead.

The thing is that the wing buyout market could be very good or very bad. Like it'd be weird for the team to not pursue buyout wings if the market has guys like McDermott, T Ross, or hell even J Rich (very doubtful). Barton I'm good passing on lol

He’s still making $31.5M next season so you need to hold this at least until next February. His growing family has to eat!

[31to6]

1. I’ve long been interested in Nerlens but now he just feels like a Vonleh remix to me.

2. If the Nets land a rotation player or two for Kyrie they’re doing great.

3. Re: JB and JT why aren’t we playing through them at the elbows more? Or let Brogdon be primary playmaker — he can drive and kick, right? Maybe I’m just a grumpy old man but I’m tired of the Jays using 75% of possessions to try to do their things from the top of the key. I will go eat some candy and deal with it though.

[fallguy]

Now and then I think about the super team we were trying to assemble:

AD - constantly injured
Hayward - even more constantly injured
Kyrie - constantly Kyrie

Horrifying to imagine.

[Curmudgeon]

Best thing the Nets could do is let Kyrie walk and trade Durant and Simmons for draft picks. Start over.

[GoCeltics123]

I’m fine with Barton as a buy out… the catch and shoot numbers are intriguing enough for me to take a flier on a buyout which we got because of the dpe. Most buyouts are meaningless but he’d at least have the open looks here.

The fact that there’s “mutual interest” being reported already means that it likely gets done IF he’s bought out. Don’t see McDermott getting bought out.

The thing is that Smitty is the only one who mentions us for him. Other people have said Nets and Bucks (although probably not Nets now lol)

[shackles10]

Best thing the Nets could do is let Kyrie walk and trade Durant and Simmons for draft picks. Start over.

Why let him walk though if you can get picks for him? I do wonder if you couldn’t get the picks this summer in a sign and trade with a larger group of teams ready to offer though. I definitely think Kyrie is trying to force a trade now so he can get where he wants with bird rights. Nobody really has the money for him outright this off-season.

[Feed Your Head]

I’d love Barton, but he would be a Sam/PP replacement, not a guy who will get Joe to play Tatum less.