Bill Lumbergh wrote:celtxman wrote:Bill Lumbergh wrote:Another thought about today's trade; Bane's market and return say nothing about Jrue's, imo.
It shows it to be a sellers market IMO. Talent will be in demand. So we started out thinking we would be giving assets to get rid of a championship proven commodity like Jrue. But supply and demand is different and the salary cap is projected to go up. So while you have a different market for Jrue, it has likely increased with this initial Bane trade
I don't know. To me it says Orlando identified a guy they really wanted and paid a premium price for him. Bane will turn 27 in a little over a week, so a guy still near the beginning of his prime. Jrue is 35, declining, and his contract is a negative. I just don't draw any conclusions about Jrue's value, or how the market in general will be from this one Bane trade.
I said before the Bane trade that the market seems to be changing - that talent is at a premium. If you go back a couple of months ago, when everyone was still in championship mode, I said Jrue's contract would be tough to move and could easily require assets. All the things you said, I've said.
I didn't just wake up and decide to be giddy after being pessimistic. When you read stories like this excerpt from Boston.com. The Kings have Holiday on their list of guards they’re interested in acquiring this offseason, The Stein Line‘s Jake Fischer reported. However, the Celtics have received a better deal on the table for Holiday than the Kings have offered to this point, according to ESPN 1320 Sacramento’s James Ham.
It hasn’t been reported what possible offers the Celtics have received for Holiday to this point. But Boston is confident it can “bring positive value back” in any trade and isn’t “operating to date like a team desperate to shed salary,” according to Fischer.
Do we read this, contributed to by a Sacramento ESPN personality , that Sacramento wanted two draft picks but the Clippers offer is only one draft pick? I dont think so.
Bane is 27 and has never been an AllStar. ESPN's Kevin Pelton (and others) graded this poorly (C-) for Orlandodue to the price paid and Bane's salary. The first trade of any trade season sets a tone. There are few free agents. So to me the price for anyone who can play an important role for a championship team, will get more than at other times. I am going by what I'm reading, not what I want. If I see something from Shams Chanaria that says the Celtics will have to give up assets to get rid of Jrue, then I'll feel differently.
