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Mitchell out, Celtics pick drops, Clips pick rises

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Re: Mitchell out, Celtics pick drops, Clips pick rises 

Post#41 » by Avalanche » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:35 pm

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Celtics receive the Clippers' 2012 first-round pick, via Thunder (Eric Bledsoe trade) (top 10 protected in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015, unprotected in 2016. In 2012, the Celtics would receive the lesser of the Clippers first-round pick or the T'Wolves' first-round pick (Marko Jaric trade)) (Jeff Green trade 02-24-11)


What does this mean?

Just means we get the clippers pick this season basically (#23 i think)

Would have been the wolves' if they had finished with a better record than the clips
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Re: Mitchell out, Celtics pick drops, Clips pick rises 

Post#42 » by Avalanche » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:36 pm

LongTimeFan wrote:And if we didn't have a promise to Greene we would have drafted Amir Johnson, too.

We're not getting Milwakee's second? It's 44 protected?

nope, they had to make the playoffs for us to get it

still, could be a good pick to buy an early second rounder if there are teams willing, definitely some talent that could slip out of the first round
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Re: Mitchell out, Celtics pick drops, Clips pick rises 

Post#43 » by ermocrate » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:38 pm

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ermocrate wrote:
Celtics receive the Clippers' 2012 first-round pick, via Thunder (Eric Bledsoe trade) (top 10 protected in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015, unprotected in 2016. In 2012, the Celtics would receive the lesser of the Clippers first-round pick or the T'Wolves' first-round pick (Marko Jaric trade)) (Jeff Green trade 02-24-11)


What does this mean?

Just means we get the clippers pick this season basically (#23 i think)

Would have been the wolves' if they had finished with a better record than the clips

Why there are 3 different trades involved?
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Re: Mitchell out, Celtics pick drops, Clips pick rises 

Post#44 » by equinox » Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:09 am

ermocrate wrote:
ermocrate wrote:
Celtics receive the Clippers' 2012 first-round pick, via Thunder (Eric Bledsoe trade) (top 10 protected in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015, unprotected in 2016. In 2012, the Celtics would receive the lesser of the Clippers first-round pick or the T'Wolves' first-round pick (Marko Jaric trade)) (Jeff Green trade 02-24-11)


What does this mean?


Why there are 3 different trades involved?



Wolves traded their own pick (protected till 2012 when it's unprotected) to the Clippers for Marko Jaric

Since Wolves sucked every year after that, Clippers never got that pick, they were to get it this draft regardless of how the Wolves did

Clippers traded their own 2012 pick (not the Wolves one) to the Thunder for Eric Bledsoe, also lottery protected, but with one caveat, if that pick was to be conveyed on the 2012 draft, the lowest of that pick and the Wolves pick would be conveyed. Basically, it was an insurance that if Wolves somehow were good, Clips would trade that pick instead of their own (when they were expected to be bad)

And we got that pick in the Green-Perk trade...when we thought we weren't getting no pick at all since Clippers sucked, we were supposed to hold on to that pick till 2017 when it would've become unprotected, a potential very high lottery pick...but then CP3 happened

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Re: Mitchell out, Celtics pick drops, Clips pick rises 

Post#45 » by cloverleaf » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:41 am

redslastlaugh wrote:Killing a few minutes, I looked back at the final 11 selections of last 6 drafts (picks 50-60) besides the two most recent (04-09).

Of those 66 picks, 8 are still on rosters. Of those 66 picks, only 4 were made by Ainge. Of Ainge's 4 picks, 3 are still on NBA rosters. The likelihood (roughly) of a player picked 50 or later being on an NBA roster after two seasons: 12%

Likelihood of an Ainge selection between 50 and 60 being on a roster after two seasons: 75%

Realize it's a small sample and all. But it says a lot, I think.

Here are the players, by the way:

2004: 0
2005: Gomes, Amir Johnson, Gortat
2006: Ryan Hollins
2007: Ramon Sessions
2008: Semih Erden
2009: Lester Hudson, Patty Mills


I'll be happy is Danny lands this year's Gortat. (But I also wouldn't mind if he bundled it with one of his 1sts to move up a bit.)

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