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Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. "He works hard for the money" Agrees to 4 year 52$ million deal page 32

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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#41 » by TheTrooth » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:08 am

Can someone explain to me why you wouldn’t resign smart? (Assuming the $$ isn’t crazy, like 15+ per year)

You don’t have any cap space. You’ll have the MLE regardless. You’re not gonna have any cap space in the next several years. Your core is set. Your team is virtually set.

So unless this is about the luxury tax, which it could be, I don’t see why you don’t just sign the guy for 4 and 12mil per
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#42 » by VeryMuchWoke » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:00 am

TheTrooth wrote:Can someone explain to me why you wouldn’t resign smart? (Assuming the $$ isn’t crazy, like 15+ per year)

You don’t have any cap space. You’ll have the MLE regardless. You’re not gonna have any cap space in the next several years. Your core is set. Your team is virtually set.

So unless this is about the luxury tax, which it could be, I don’t see why you don’t just sign the guy for 4 and 12mil per


Ainge doesn't sign guys to potentially untradeable contracts and that's what Smart is demanding at the moment.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#43 » by Spin Move » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:03 am

TheTrooth wrote:Can someone explain to me why you wouldn’t resign smart? (Assuming the $$ isn’t crazy, like 15+ per year)

You don’t have any cap space. You’ll have the MLE regardless. You’re not gonna have any cap space in the next several years. Your core is set. Your team is virtually set.

So unless this is about the luxury tax, which it could be, I don’t see why you don’t just sign the guy for 4 and 12mil per

It depends on how much, for 6 million its a no brainer he is a good bench player, but in 3 years when we are paying the tax and his 12 million all of a sudden costs us way more or prevents us from making another move etc, thats why you don't overpay. He is good bench guy who wants to get paid like a good starter.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#44 » by K For Three » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:05 am

He needs to come back, he is just far too entertaining.

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Post#45 » by SilverQuick » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:39 am

Edug27 wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:Smart was foolish for not taking the deal last year. At this point, the league has enough data on him to properly assess him. I can’t see a team offering him 10 million. Maybe if he could shoot 3’s like Roberson.

I can respect the intangibles and the fearlessness but guys like Bradley, Crowder and Turner didn’t do much to help dispel the Stevens myth (Bradley was hurt though). I can see why teams would be overly cautious on Smart.


Roberson could shoot 3’s??

He can shoot, everbody can but the problem with Roberson, his shoots are not going throgh the rim
Just Like Smart's
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#46 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:53 am

Spin Move wrote:
TheTrooth wrote:Can someone explain to me why you wouldn’t resign smart? (Assuming the $$ isn’t crazy, like 15+ per year)

You don’t have any cap space. You’ll have the MLE regardless. You’re not gonna have any cap space in the next several years. Your core is set. Your team is virtually set.

So unless this is about the luxury tax, which it could be, I don’t see why you don’t just sign the guy for 4 and 12mil per

It depends on how much, for 6 million its a no brainer he is a good bench player, but in 3 years when we are paying the tax and his 12 million all of a sudden costs us way more or prevents us from making another move etc, thats why you don't overpay. He is good bench guy who wants to get paid like a good starter.


The tax thing is real, but 12m not starter money after the first year, if at all. Elephant in the room on this topic is the rising cap. We can squeeze him now wrt to the QO, and he would squeeze us later if we did. No one would win.

For a team that is a potential contender this year and going forward, you pay him his money unless he is deadset on $15m+.

We are the 2nd best team as things stand. You let a key-but-not-core guy that is crucial to your identity and league-leading defense walk, just to avoid the tax and maybe hold money for Terry?

Ugh.
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Post#47 » by Scoonie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:42 am

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Post#48 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:52 am

Nothing we haven't heard before. Just trying to get to five Marcus Smart threads and beat Kawhi.

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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#49 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:24 am

TheTrooth wrote:Can someone explain to me why you wouldn’t resign smart? (Assuming the $$ isn’t crazy, like 15+ per year)

You don’t have any cap space. You’ll have the MLE regardless. You’re not gonna have any cap space in the next several years. Your core is set. Your team is virtually set.

So unless this is about the luxury tax, which it could be, I don’t see why you don’t just sign the guy for 4 and 12mil per

Lux tax would be the only reason IMO. The Cs will likely pay tax the next several years if they stay in contention. The repeater tax kicks on if a team is over the tax line for 3 our of 4 years. Avoiding tax this year to put that off another years is very attractive. That said if the Cs can retain Smart for anything under 11 million a year they can maneuver under the tax line without to much heart burn. For the Cs it pays to let the market play out and then ink him to a fair deal. If he doesn’t like it he can play on the QO for a year and be a FA next year.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#50 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:27 am

So after the trades last night it seems cap space is pretty much dry. Let’s get this done.
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Post#51 » by Fidel Sarcasmo » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:56 am

Marcus is up a rough river without a paddle. His agent should leave the business. He’s hurting people. Marcus would need to put out offensively next year at a much higher clip to even sniff what he’s asking. That Exum deal messed with his head. Utah’s the dumbest negotiating team in the universe. No other team on earth wants that trash n they just gifted him eleven mil per. Just like that. Exum’s done nothing in this league.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#52 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:19 pm

Fidel Sarcasmo wrote:Marcus is up a rough river without a paddle. His agent should leave the business. He’s hurting people. Marcus would need to put out offensively next year at a much higher clip to even sniff what he’s asking. That Exum deal messed with his head. Utah’s the dumbest negotiating team in the universe. No other team on earth wants that trash n they just gifted him eleven mil per. Just like that. Exum’s done nothing in this league.


Exum is awful and signing him to a 33m contract is insanity. But you are right. Smart sees Exum making 11m and I bet he is thinking "If he can make 11m when can't I make 15m?"

Smart needs to fire Walters. Happy Walters seems to be great at telling his clients they can get more if they wait which is what I am guessing is going on here. I mean Noel reject a 70m dollar deal? He made 4.1 last year and is getting the vet min this year which is what around 2M?

At the end of the day though there was money to be had and despite all the rumors of the kings offering him money and sign and trades not a thing has happened. He should have taken that 4/48 deal last year.
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Post#53 » by brackdan70 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:40 pm

How much cap space can Chicago get to now if they renounce FAs and exceptions?
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Post#54 » by jirrit » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:54 pm

Wow there's a second thread about Smart?

What's the gossip all about guys? Summertime here, not much time to read.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#55 » by Edug27 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:54 pm

VeryMuchWoke wrote:
TheTrooth wrote:Can someone explain to me why you wouldn’t resign smart? (Assuming the $$ isn’t crazy, like 15+ per year)

You don’t have any cap space. You’ll have the MLE regardless. You’re not gonna have any cap space in the next several years. Your core is set. Your team is virtually set.

So unless this is about the luxury tax, which it could be, I don’t see why you don’t just sign the guy for 4 and 12mil per


Ainge doesn't sign guys to potentially untradeable contracts and that's what Smart is demanding at the moment.


This. The smaller the contract the easier it will be to move if a dude like AD comes available.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#56 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:06 pm

brackdan70 wrote:How much cap space can Chicago get to now if they renounce FAs and exceptions?

20M. Melo, Deng, or Parker?
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#57 » by Moose23 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:10 pm

If it came down to it I guess I wouldnt be opposed to moving smart in part of a larger deal, but I do really hope he comes back.

Only person we should be looking at moving on from is Morris, IMO. Opens room for Semi who I think is going to take a step forward this year, and also is someone who will accept limited minutes if required.

Brown/Hayward/Smart/Semi/Bird all able to cover the 96 minutes per game from the sg/sf spot. no need for morris IMO.

Brown - 32
Hayward - 30
Smart - 26

that leaves 8 minutes.

at pf
tatum - 32
Theis - 10
Horford - 6

At center
Horf - 24
Baynes - 20
Williams - 4


There just isnt any room for him.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#58 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:11 pm

It's pretty obvious,

Marcus Smart is going to resign with the Celtics on the 1 year and $6 million QO. Smart pretty much has no choice now.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#59 » by OldCeltics » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:14 pm

20 million, 4 years, lets get this done.
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Re: Marcus Smart free agency Take 2. 

Post#60 » by 3D Chess » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:17 pm

Danny saw this coming a mile away.

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