ImageImageImage

Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22?

Moderators: bisme37, Froob, Darthlukey, Shak_Celts, Parliament10, canman1971, shackles10, snowman

chrisab123
RealGM
Posts: 15,214
And1: 10,624
Joined: Jul 07, 2012
         

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#41 » by chrisab123 » Fri Jun 4, 2021 11:32 pm

Larranaga or Jerome Allen.
chrisab123
RealGM
Posts: 15,214
And1: 10,624
Joined: Jul 07, 2012
         

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#42 » by chrisab123 » Fri Jun 4, 2021 11:33 pm

themoneyteam2 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I think while everyone is focusing on the HC, rightfully so, I feel like the asts coaches hired may be nearly as important.


I think Lloyd Pierce could be a good assistant. Larranga and Jerome Allen I actually would like for them to retain. Allen is really close with Tatum, Brown, and a handful of former and current players on the Celtics.

I think they really need a former HC or longtime assistant as their lead assistant though. Seems like other top teams
all have that


No one on this current staff should be retained.
themoneyteam2
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,371
And1: 8,467
Joined: Oct 19, 2019
   

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#43 » by themoneyteam2 » Fri Jun 4, 2021 11:34 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:I think while everyone is focusing on the HC, rightfully so, I feel like the asts coaches hired may be nearly as important.


I think Lloyd Pierce could be a good assistant. Larranga and Jerome Allen I actually would like for them to retain. Allen is really close with Tatum, Brown, and a handful of former and current players on the Celtics.

I think they really need a former HC or longtime assistant as their lead assistant though. Seems like other top teams
all have that


No one on this current staff should be retained.


That’s false. I don’t know if they will be retained but Larranaga and Jerome Allen are good coaches and close with the players. They should be able to get jobs pretty easily with other teams. Larranaga was runner up for HC for the Hornets a few years ago too
Curmudgeon
RealGM
Posts: 42,151
And1: 25,926
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#44 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jun 5, 2021 12:02 am

Larranega's father Jim is one of the best coaches in college basketball. Shane Larkin played for him, as did Bruce Brown.
One year Larrenega took George Mason to the final four. That is unlikely to ever happen again.
"Numbers lie alot. Wins and losses don't lie." - Jerry West
"You are what your record says you are."- Bill Parcells
"Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. Rebounding wins championships." Pat Summit
makubesu
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,738
And1: 2,237
Joined: Jun 26, 2017
       

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#45 » by makubesu » Sat Jun 5, 2021 4:16 am

sully00 wrote:
makubesu wrote:Is there any coach on another team you guys could see getting fired? For example, if the Bucks lose to the Nets maybe Budenholzer stands a good chance (though I know most of us would hate the move!)


Scott Brooks
Nate McMillian (could be a FA)
Erik Spoelstra
Ty Lue
Terry Stotts

Stotts just got fired, so you were spot on here. I hope we don’t hire him…
return2glory
RealGM
Posts: 17,085
And1: 10,885
Joined: Feb 24, 2005

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#46 » by return2glory » Sat Jun 5, 2021 7:51 am

What if it’s someone that we aren’t even expecting?

Like Jay Wright of Villanova.
User avatar
ParticleMan
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 15,076
And1: 9,093
Joined: Sep 16, 2004
     

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#47 » by ParticleMan » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:53 am

I'd prefer someone who is good at basketball coaching but great at managing egos. We are leaving the development phase, we have to bring in stars and make them work together. Doc was not a particularly good X's/O's coach but he has always been able to get stars to sacrifice for each other. Obviously Doc is not available but a guy has to have those traits. This is one of the things Brad lacked, maybe he didn't feel like he had the stature to do it, but guys too often ran amok without accountability.

This is why I prefer a former winning NBA player. Those guys come with the street cred to say "hey, I've been there, I know what it takes to make it work, and sorry but it's gonna cramp your style." Young guys will listen to that.
Waider
Junior
Posts: 411
And1: 197
Joined: Jul 04, 2012

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#48 » by Waider » Sat Jun 5, 2021 11:58 am

ParticleMan wrote:I'd prefer someone who is good at basketball coaching but great at managing egos. We are leaving the development phase, we have to bring in stars and make them work together. Doc was not a particularly good X's/O's coach but he has always been able to get stars to sacrifice for each other. Obviously Doc is not available but a guy has to have those traits. This is one of the things Brad lacked, maybe he didn't feel like he had the stature to do it, but guys too often ran amok without accountability.

This is why I prefer a former winning NBA player. Those guys come with the street cred to say "hey, I've been there, I know what it takes to make it work, and sorry but it's gonna cramp your style." Young guys will listen to that.


I think Chauncey really fits the bill you described. He is a leader of men and very impressive individual.
This is hardly even fair, the rest of the league is playing checkers and Danny Ainge is playing 12-dimensional chess.
User avatar
ParticleMan
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 15,076
And1: 9,093
Joined: Sep 16, 2004
     

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#49 » by ParticleMan » Sat Jun 5, 2021 12:09 pm

Waider wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:I'd prefer someone who is good at basketball coaching but great at managing egos. We are leaving the development phase, we have to bring in stars and make them work together. Doc was not a particularly good X's/O's coach but he has always been able to get stars to sacrifice for each other. Obviously Doc is not available but a guy has to have those traits. This is one of the things Brad lacked, maybe he didn't feel like he had the stature to do it, but guys too often ran amok without accountability.

This is why I prefer a former winning NBA player. Those guys come with the street cred to say "hey, I've been there, I know what it takes to make it work, and sorry but it's gonna cramp your style." Young guys will listen to that.


I think Chauncey really fits the bill you described. He is a leader of men and very impressive individual.


yep as soon as it all went down he was my first thought.
i am slightly less enthusiastic about cassell but he does have more coaching experience. not liking lloyd pierce at all.
Curmudgeon
RealGM
Posts: 42,151
And1: 25,926
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#50 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jun 5, 2021 1:45 pm

It's going to be LaValle Jordan. You heard it here first.
"Numbers lie alot. Wins and losses don't lie." - Jerry West

"You are what your record says you are."- Bill Parcells

"Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. Rebounding wins championships." Pat Summit
sportfan6197
Senior
Posts: 696
And1: 321
Joined: Dec 18, 2015

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#51 » by sportfan6197 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 2:05 pm

Willie green
themoneyteam2
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,371
And1: 8,467
Joined: Oct 19, 2019
   

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#52 » by themoneyteam2 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 2:48 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:It's going to be LaValle Jordan. You heard it here first.


Could be but don’t think they hire a college coach due to Stevens knowing how long that takes to get acclimated to the NBA game. I think he knows they need a coach more ready right now since the clock is ticking with Brown and Tatum
User avatar
Green89
RealGM
Posts: 28,400
And1: 27,954
Joined: Apr 01, 2013

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#53 » by Green89 » Sat Jun 5, 2021 3:01 pm

chrisab123 wrote:Larranaga or Jerome Allen.


I doubt ownership shook up the organization by ditching Brad and Ainge, just to go with a guy off our assistant bench. They'll hire a bigger name during this overhaul.
User avatar
Bad-Thoma
Head Coach
Posts: 7,230
And1: 10,165
Joined: Feb 22, 2006
Location: Still riding proud on the C's bandwagon

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#54 » by Bad-Thoma » Sat Jun 5, 2021 3:17 pm

Nate McMillan wouldn't break my heart if the Hawks don't retain him but considering how well they played under him it seems unlikely.
cloverleaf
RealGM
Posts: 10,382
And1: 7,682
Joined: Feb 10, 2007

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#55 » by cloverleaf » Sat Jun 5, 2021 5:54 pm

ParticleMan wrote:
Waider wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:I'd prefer someone who is good at basketball coaching but great at managing egos. We are leaving the development phase, we have to bring in stars and make them work together. Doc was not a particularly good X's/O's coach but he has always been able to get stars to sacrifice for each other. Obviously Doc is not available but a guy has to have those traits. This is one of the things Brad lacked, maybe he didn't feel like he had the stature to do it, but guys too often ran amok without accountability.

This is why I prefer a former winning NBA player. Those guys come with the street cred to say "hey, I've been there, I know what it takes to make it work, and sorry but it's gonna cramp your style." Young guys will listen to that.


I think Chauncey really fits the bill you described. He is a leader of men and very impressive individual.


yep as soon as it all went down he was my first thought.
i am slightly less enthusiastic about cassell but he does have more coaching experience. not liking lloyd pierce at all.


So how long are Brad and Wyc going to futz about while other teams take swift action?

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/262832/Blazers-To-Reportedly-Decide-Between-Jason-Kidd-Chauncey-Billups-As-New-Coach
User avatar
Bad-Thoma
Head Coach
Posts: 7,230
And1: 10,165
Joined: Feb 22, 2006
Location: Still riding proud on the C's bandwagon

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#56 » by Bad-Thoma » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:28 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:
Waider wrote:
I think Chauncey really fits the bill you described. He is a leader of men and very impressive individual.


yep as soon as it all went down he was my first thought.
i am slightly less enthusiastic about cassell but he does have more coaching experience. not liking lloyd pierce at all.


So how long are Brad and Wyc going to futz about while other teams take swift action?

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/262832/Blazers-To-Reportedly-Decide-Between-Jason-Kidd-Chauncey-Billups-As-New-Coach


I'd rather they fultz about than swiftly make a poor decision, they could very well be targeting assistants that are still in the playoffs. Jason Kidd has no appeal to me and Billups isn't some proven coaching commodity though I have nothing against him. Maybe after the clips are eliminated we pursue Rajon. :wink:

Just kidding on Rondo, he might be too much of a head case to be a coach though the fan in me would love it.
bucknersrevenge
RealGM
Posts: 11,412
And1: 15,494
Joined: Jul 05, 2012
Location: Southern Maryland
Contact:
         

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#57 » by bucknersrevenge » Sun Jun 6, 2021 6:04 am

Just playing devil's advocate for a second here:

What are Chauncey's credentials? He's won a title and this is his first year coaching. He's also done some analyst work. If Brad is looking for experienced guys (and according to some reports Brad is), I mean, almost every other guy is more qualified than Billups. Why give him a shot when he's at the beginning of his coaching career and pass over guys who at least know what they're doing on that side of the clipboard?

To be clear, I like Billups but I feel this question still needs to be asked. If you're for this guy, why do you feel comfortable ignoring the fact that before this year, this guy has done ZERO coaching? Hell, he's not even the LEAD assistant in LA.
and that's "MR. Irrelevant" to you!!

Founder of The Red's Disciples Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKArn8FGRYRxGqNDg8J4IAQ/featured
JimmyFromNz
Rookie
Posts: 1,089
And1: 1,252
Joined: Jul 11, 2006
 

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#58 » by JimmyFromNz » Sun Jun 6, 2021 6:28 am

I'd like us to take a Brooklyn approach.

Figure head former player, supported by a seasoned coaches coach. E.g. Nash/D'Antoni.

Cassell or Billups with Atkinson, Lawson, or Hammon would be great.


Sent from my SM-G991B using RealGM mobile app
cloverleaf
RealGM
Posts: 10,382
And1: 7,682
Joined: Feb 10, 2007

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#59 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jun 6, 2021 10:38 am

Bad-Thoma wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
ParticleMan wrote:
yep as soon as it all went down he was my first thought.
i am slightly less enthusiastic about cassell but he does have more coaching experience. not liking lloyd pierce at all.


So how long are Brad and Wyc going to futz about while other teams take swift action?

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/262832/Blazers-To-Reportedly-Decide-Between-Jason-Kidd-Chauncey-Billups-As-New-Coach


I'd rather they fultz about than swiftly make a poor decision, they could very well be targeting assistants that are still in the playoffs. Jason Kidd has no appeal to me and Billups isn't some proven coaching commodity though I have nothing against him. Maybe after the clips are eliminated we pursue Rajon. :wink:

Just kidding on Rondo, he might be too much of a head case to be a coach though the fan in me would love it.


I've no interest in Kidd or Rondo as coach. Cassell is the one they may officially need to wait on.

But surely they can do better than this guy:

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/07/11/jerome-allen-penn-basketball-bribery-case-ncaa-celtics-philip-esformes
sunshinekids99
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 19,745
And1: 229
Joined: Apr 10, 2001

Re: Who will coach the Celtics in 2021-22? 

Post#60 » by sunshinekids99 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:11 pm

I'm in the Cassell or Billups camp.
Image

Return to Boston Celtics