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The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#41 » by Zeroforwinger » Thu Sep 2, 2021 9:58 pm

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It's a good thing we don't have Anthony Davis then! Lol.


Yet they were a much better offensive team with Schroeder on the floor than Rondo. I guess we see what’s important to AD.
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Post#42 » by FlatearthZorro » Thu Sep 2, 2021 10:20 pm

playa-hater wrote:Just putting it out there. But is there any benefit to signing LA? We have centers, but LA probably is > Kanter and Bruno for One season at least.

also keeps him away from Nets/Miami.

speak now or forever be damned !!!


He's going to the Nets, too, from what I read, Jordan will be leaving BKN.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#43 » by Zeroforwinger » Thu Sep 2, 2021 10:26 pm

Mental health is becoming a big problem in this country and the pandemic has clearly exacerbated that.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#44 » by snowman » Thu Sep 2, 2021 10:59 pm

I have seen the post where Brad has said that he has the permission to be a lux tax paying team this season if the situation warrants it. However, I don't see a "major trade" coming using any of the core players, at least not until possibly the trade deadline, and even then VERY doubtful. As Brad also said, they may do "some tinkering around the edges). IMO, that means Dunn (which we have had no other word about since the trade bringing him here, except that he may be moving on), Edwards (who is really our 15th player at this point) Fernando, G. Williams and Parker.

With this in mind, I do not see the owners ok'ing staying in the lux tax for a 11-15 player at all. Considering they are only 6.6 mil into the lux tax, I see the tinkering around the edges meaning to make moves to get them under the lux tax threshold. OKC is the ONLY team that can absorb 6.6 mil and still be under the tax. So I'm thinking that Dunn and Edwards, along with cash and a 2nd round pick are what is coming next.

To OKC:
Dunn, Edwards, 5 mil cash and a future 2nd
To Boston:
future top 55 protected 2nd

I would love to keep Dunn, just to give him a shot at redemption, but with out his 5,005,350.00 salary, we would have to move all of G. Will, Parker and Edwards to get under the lux tax. Then we would only have 13 players and 1 2-way under contract. We would then have a charge against us for roster shortage, throwing us right back into the tax again. So Dunn, must go along with one other, and then we would still have only 14 players.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#45 » by robbie84 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 11:24 pm

ddb wrote:
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ddb wrote:For the record. I can’t stand Ben Simmons. I was making fake trade ideas to mess around. If LBF read my posts he knows I can’t stand Simmons. LBF felt the need to bring up Covid posts because that has anything to do with Ben Simmons. Ridiculous.

Enjoy that booster buddy.

Fair enough, your post still sucked, I thought you were being serious and it was a continuation of your recent nonsense. I really respect you as a basketball poster, always will, but that **** from before just leaves a bad stain in your drawers forever on this forum.


$$ & Power. I stand by it. And your vaccines are killing people too. Pfizer whistleblower saying close to 200k deaths within a week of taking vaccine. If people continue to comply it will only get worse the level of restrictions we will face.
And I'll leave you with this, then I don't want to talk about it again on this board. At NO time in history have the people forcing others into compliance been the good guys.



Please take your conspiracy theory garbage elsewhere.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#46 » by SuperDeluxe » Thu Sep 2, 2021 11:39 pm

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Half-Full wrote:
You make a statement about vaccines being responsible for "close to 200K deaths within a week of taking vaccine" as if it was fact. A quick Google search reveals there is no source that backs that figure (or anything close to it). Conspiracy BS.


Right. It's a whistleblower from Pfizer saying that. Not me. Sounds like a lot. However, considering the vaccine came out in December, even these numbers (13-14kish reported, and it's probably a lot more!) is alarming.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-I86ZwXMAU7-tj?format=jpg&name=large

and now CDC is counting any death within 14 days of receiving a vaccine as an "unvaccinated" death....which covers their a$$ a bit I suppose.


What is this nonsense discussion doing in the trade thread??

He stank the Coronavirus thread with his "facts" but the crowd wasn't big enough. He gets more attention here.

We're still waiting with bated breath for his exclusive inside info about Beal asking for a trade a month ago to become reality. This is the type of ddb "fact" that belongs in this thread.
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Post#47 » by Feed Your Head » Thu Sep 2, 2021 11:53 pm

SuperDeluxe wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
ddb wrote:
Right. It's a whistleblower from Pfizer saying that. Not me. Sounds like a lot. However, considering the vaccine came out in December, even these numbers (13-14kish reported, and it's probably a lot more!) is alarming.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-I86ZwXMAU7-tj?format=jpg&name=large

and now CDC is counting any death within 14 days of receiving a vaccine as an "unvaccinated" death....which covers their a$$ a bit I suppose.


What is this nonsense discussion doing in the trade thread??

He stank the Coronavirus thread with his "facts" but the crowd wasn't big enough. He gets more attention here.

We're still waiting for his exclusive inside info about Beal asking for a trade a month ago to become reality. This is the type of ddb "fact" that belongs in this thread.


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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#48 » by Theocy » Fri Sep 3, 2021 12:08 am

robbie84 wrote:
ddb wrote:
LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Fair enough, your post still sucked, I thought you were being serious and it was a continuation of your recent nonsense. I really respect you as a basketball poster, always will, but that **** from before just leaves a bad stain in your drawers forever on this forum.


$$ & Power. I stand by it. And your vaccines are killing people too. Pfizer whistleblower saying close to 200k deaths within a week of taking vaccine. If people continue to comply it will only get worse the level of restrictions we will face.
And I'll leave you with this, then I don't want to talk about it again on this board. At NO time in history have the people forcing others into compliance been the good guys.



Please take your conspiracy theory garbage elsewhere.


I actually found his post really interesting. Whistleblower probably refers to an ex pfizer employee who has been working under novartis i think for a great number of years. So by definition not a whistleblower. Saying the word thoough gives these idiots a sense of authenticity that doesn’t really exist. The whistleblower- if indeed this refers to Yeaton also said 20k deaths worst case scenario in the UK - they have now surprassed the 130k mark i believe.

Are we certain ddb isnt just Kyrie haunting this forum? :lol: Does he burn sage ? 8-)
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#49 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Sep 3, 2021 1:16 am

The Comedian wrote:
SuperDeluxe wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
What is this nonsense discussion doing in the trade thread??

He stank the Coronavirus thread with his "facts" but the crowd wasn't big enough. He gets more attention here.

We're still waiting for his exclusive inside info about Beal asking for a trade a month ago to become reality. This is the type of ddb "fact" that belongs in this thread.


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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#50 » by Ed Pinkney » Fri Sep 3, 2021 5:39 am

The pendulum has definitely swung too far on Simmons in my opinion, some of the commentary about him is just plain ridiculous. He has elite defence and elite playmaking for a player his size, and he is still young. The warts and weaknesses in his game are obvious and discussed ad-nauseum, but to think he couldn't still be one of the most important players on a good team with better balance for this skillset is stupid.

The Simmons focus also seems to distract people from Embiid's warts as well. He was bad at times in the playoffs, he never seems in good enough shape, he is injury prone, he has lots of turnovers in big games, he takes too many threes etc. He should be taking some of the blame for their playoff losses too, I mean the Celtics swept them last year.

I wouldn't want to see the Celtics trade either Tatum or Brown for Simmons either, but I think if he gets away from Embiid, away from Philly fans, away from the residual stink of the Process, he will be really good. Continue to be really good actually, because he is still a really good player.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#51 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Sep 3, 2021 6:29 am

Simmons would be perfect with the Clippers. Too bad they're out of assets to make an interesting offer.
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Post#52 » by ParticleMan » Fri Sep 3, 2021 7:58 am

yeah i'd definitely take Simmons on this team, much better fit with the Jays than with Embiid. not sure we have the assets outside of the Jays and Smart, but if the sixers get desperate then maybe.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#53 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Sep 3, 2021 2:02 pm

Meh. Simmons is elite until the last two minutes of a close game. Then he sucks. So any team with Simmons better avoid those close games, especially in the playoffs.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#54 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Sep 3, 2021 2:29 pm

Simmons averages about $35 million over the next 4 years. That is a very poor allocation of resources in my opinion for what he brings to the court.
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Post#55 » by tfribs45 » Fri Sep 3, 2021 3:36 pm

this title is an insult to JB, Simmons isn't half the man that Brown is!
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Post#56 » by The Corey's » Fri Sep 3, 2021 3:45 pm

Find it odd that a supposed insider loses his credibility here over his vax stance but before I took a 3 day ban because I questioned the legitimacy to begin with.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#57 » by Hal14 » Fri Sep 3, 2021 3:50 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:Simmons would be perfect with the Clippers. Too bad they're out of assets to make an interesting offer.

Yeah I mean, Mann is a good young talent. Reggie Jackson is a PG who can distribute and score, which Philly needs.

Keon Johnson is a young wing with high upside they just took in the 1st round, who many had projected a lottery pick.

So a package of Mann + Jackson + Keon + multiple 1st round picks isn't terrible. But I'm sure there's another team could make a better offer..
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#60 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Sep 3, 2021 4:03 pm

Damn, Stevens is a wizard at hitting singles. Under the tax now I presume? Then we get a young-ish wing that may not amount to anything but it still worth a 14th or 15th spot in the NBA. At a position of need.

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