So did Joe save his head coaching job?

[FlyBono]

Hero ball doesn’t win, dependent on the 3 , can’t break a zone and the same old problems have been going on with inconsistent player play with 3 different Coaches

It’s a player/roster issue

Build around Tatum White and explore Deals with the rest that have trade value

It’s not going to change running it back with the same top 8 players

[celtics543]

If I had my way, Brad moves back to the bench, Jaylen is traded, and we hire Bob Myers as the GM.

[celtxman]

Brad's Biggest Blunders

1- Offering Mazzula a Guaranteed Contract with 3 seasons past the current one
2 - Letting Will Hardy take over in Utah

The contract is only money. If they completely collapsed and lost in 4 games to Atlanta they could have fired him. But remember they gave him the contact when they were leading the East and he was mostly doing a good job.
I'm just not sure about Hardy. I guess he did OK with a weak roster. My bigger question is how long did Celtic management consider relieving Udoka? Was there a chance they could have hired Hardy by acting sooner?

[djFan71]

I doubt he was in serious danger, but losing in a sweep or 5 to the 8 seed and getting seriously outcoached would have been the opportunity to move on. Losing game 7 when your best player is hobbled on the literal 1st possession is easier to excuse.

[Hal14]

Brad's Biggest Blunders

1- Offering Mazzula a Guaranteed Contract with 3 seasons past the current one
2 - Letting Will Hardy take over in Utah

Huh? Are you on crack? How is the bold one Brad's fault? He's not gonna force Hardy to stay here instead of taking a better job lol.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Brad's Biggest Blunders

1- Offering Mazzula a Guaranteed Contract with 3 seasons past the current one
2 - Letting Will Hardy take over in Utah

Huh? Are you on crack? How is the bold one Brad's fault? He's not gonna force Hardy to stay here instead of taking a better job lol.

Maybe jammer is suggesting that Hardy should have been given the head coaching position instead of Joe? At least that's what I got out of it

[DelMonte West]

I think probably did because the Celtics are too scared to do something drastic and will try to give him some people with tenure on his staff..

Can't believe this is real...or I can :/

Read on Twitter

This man is a moron. We don't have a Steph Curry or Klay Thompson to warrant the obnoxious amount of threes we jack up. More than half of last night's shots were threes and that's gross. Just because Golden State was successful in this type of playstyle doesn't mean we should copy it. It's like saying that every dunk attempt needs to go between the legs because Vince Carter made it famous.

I don't have a lick of confidence with Joe, but yeah, he's secure. He has the excuse of injuries in crucial games, first year head coach, etc. He never deserved the spot in the first place but we're stuck with this no-talent turd.

[zoyathedestroya]

Brad's Biggest Blunders

1- Offering Mazzula a Guaranteed Contract with 3 seasons past the current one
2 - Letting Will Hardy take over in Utah

Huh? Are you on crack? How is the bold one Brad's fault? He's not gonna force Hardy to stay here instead of taking a better job lol.

Maybe jammer is suggesting that Hardy should have been given the head coaching position instead of Joe? At least that's what I got out of it

Ime was suspended eve of training camp. Hardy was hired by Utah 3 months prior.

[Hal14]

Brad's Biggest Blunders

1- Offering Mazzula a Guaranteed Contract with 3 seasons past the current one
2 - Letting Will Hardy take over in Utah

Huh? Are you on crack? How is the bold one Brad's fault? He's not gonna force Hardy to stay here instead of taking a better job lol.

Maybe jammer is suggesting that Hardy should have been given the head coaching position instead of Joe? At least that's what I got out of it

Timeline doesn't make sense for that. Hardy took the Jazz job BEFORE Udoka was suspended for the season.

[chrisab123]

It would be bonkers if Mazzula is making more yearly than Hardy. This dude suuuuuuucks

[chrisab123]

I think probably did because the Celtics are too scared to do something drastic and will try to give him some people with tenure on his staff..

Can't believe this is real...or I can :/

Read on Twitter

This man is a moron. We don't have a Steph Curry or Klay Thompson to warrant the obnoxious amount of threes we jack up. More than half of last night's shots were threes and that's gross. Just because Golden State was successful in this type of playstyle doesn't mean we should copy it. It's like saying that every dunk attempt needs to go between the legs because Vince Carter made it famous.

I don't have a lick of confidence with Joe, but yeah, he's secure. He has the excuse of injuries in crucial games, first year head coach, etc. He never deserved the spot in the first place but we're stuck with this no-talent turd.

Well we have Smart who believes that he is Steph Curry. So thats something. Loves jacking up those 3s and this nimrod enables him.

[Hal14]

I think probably did because the Celtics are too scared to do something drastic and will try to give him some people with tenure on his staff..

Can't believe this is real...or I can :/

Read on Twitter

This man is a moron. We don't have a Steph Curry or Klay Thompson to warrant the obnoxious amount of threes we jack up. More than half of last night's shots were threes and that's gross. Just because Golden State was successful in this type of playstyle doesn't mean we should copy it. It's like saying that every dunk attempt needs to go between the legs because Vince Carter made it famous.

I don't have a lick of confidence with Joe, but yeah, he's secure. He has the excuse of injuries in crucial games, first year head coach, etc. He never deserved the spot in the first place but we're stuck with this no-talent turd.

We scored more points per 100 possessions this season than the warriors. So we copied their style and are doing it better than them. #2 ranked offense in the league.

If we look closer at the stats, we shot 37.7% from 3 and 56.7% from 3.

Now, if we take those numbers and say that hypothetically we could either shoot all 2's or all 3's to see which one is best. 37.7 x 3 = 113.1 points. 56.7 x 2 = 113.4.

Ironically, they both come out to be basically the same amount of points!

We were 5th in the league in 2 pt %, 6th in the league in 3 pt %. So in terms of how efficient we are compared to the rest of the league, we're basically equally as efficient at making 3's as we are at making 2's (this would be a VERY different conversation if we were 1st in 2 pt % and 30th in 3 pt %).

The end result is that we were #2 in the league in points per 100 possessions. So what are we doing here? The offense isn't the problem.

I think our balance between 2PA and 3PA is just fine. Especially when you consider that we actually shoot MORE 2's than 3's (per 100 possessions, we took 46.2 shots from 2 and 42.6 shots from 3.

When you look at the data objectively, taking too many 3's is not the issue here.

[lon3lytoaster]

I think probably did because the Celtics are too scared to do something drastic and will try to give him some people with tenure on his staff..

Can't believe this is real...or I can :/

Read on Twitter

This man is a moron. We don't have a Steph Curry or Klay Thompson to warrant the obnoxious amount of threes we jack up. More than half of last night's shots were threes and that's gross. Just because Golden State was successful in this type of playstyle doesn't mean we should copy it. It's like saying that every dunk attempt needs to go between the legs because Vince Carter made it famous.

I don't have a lick of confidence with Joe, but yeah, he's secure. He has the excuse of injuries in crucial games, first year head coach, etc. He never deserved the spot in the first place but we're stuck with this no-talent turd.

We scored more points per 100 possessions this season than the warriors. So we copied their style and are doing it better than them. #2 ranked offense in the league.

We copied their style and are doing it better than them… you’ve said some wild things, but this is the all time disillusioned post.

Let’s hang that banner for #2 oRating in the regular season I guess.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I think probably did because the Celtics are too scared to do something drastic and will try to give him some people with tenure on his staff..

Can't believe this is real...or I can :/

Read on Twitter

This man is a moron. We don't have a Steph Curry or Klay Thompson to warrant the obnoxious amount of threes we jack up. More than half of last night's shots were threes and that's gross. Just because Golden State was successful in this type of playstyle doesn't mean we should copy it. It's like saying that every dunk attempt needs to go between the legs because Vince Carter made it famous.

I don't have a lick of confidence with Joe, but yeah, he's secure. He has the excuse of injuries in crucial games, first year head coach, etc. He never deserved the spot in the first place but we're stuck with this no-talent turd.

We scored more points per 100 possessions this season than the warriors. So we copied their style and are doing it better than them. #2 ranked offense in the league.

If we look closer at the stats, we shot 37.7% from 3 and 56.7% from 3.

Now, if we take those numbers and say that hypothetically we could either shoot all 2's or all 3's to see which one is best. 37.7 x 3 = 113.1 points. 56.7 x 2 = 113.4.

Ironically, they both come out to be basically the same amount of points!

We were 5th in the league in 2 pt %, 6th in the league in 3 pt % and 2nd in the league in points per 100 possessions. I think our balance between 2PA and 3PA is just fine. Especially when you consider that we actually shoot MORE 2's than 3's (per 100 possessions, we took 46.2 shots from 2 and 42.6 shots from 3.

When you look at the data objectively, taking too many 3's is not the issue here.

Call me crazy but I agree with all this. Boston should be taking 50-60 threes a game.

[JR Hawks]

Joe Mazzulla has $14 million guaranteed on his deal, which spans over the next three years, sources tell
@ShamsCharania
https://theathletic.com/4563225/2023/05/30/celtics-future-rumors-heat-nba-finals-the-bounce/?source=nbatw

Woah.. holy hell. That's insane. I either didn't know, or didn't remember he got this kind of contract.

No one knew because they didn't announce the terms.

This is a unacceptable amount to give anyone. This is almost the same amount of years Stevens got out the gate.

This begs the question. Why did Ime get a 3 year deal with the third year being an option but Mazzula got a 4 year deal with 14 mil guranteed?

Because Brad didn't want to hire Ime in the first place. He wanted to hire Joe instead of Ime last year, but ownership balked at hiring someone with so little experience after a failed season the year before.

Fans are severely underestimating how much Brad loves Joe. He has promoted him every chance he gets. When he looks at Joe, he sees himself....boy wonder, same schemes, same analytics, etc.

If ownership forced Joe out, Brad would resign.

[GoCeltics123]

Brad's Biggest Blunders

1- Offering Mazzula a Guaranteed Contract with 3 seasons past the current one
2 - Letting Will Hardy take over in Utah

Ok come on what were we supposed to do? "Hey Will, we know you're an assistant, but you can't take this life-changing opportunity because we said so."

Ridiculous

[Jammer]

Huh? Are you on crack? How is the bold one Brad's fault? He's not gonna force Hardy to stay here instead of taking a better job lol.

Maybe jammer is suggesting that Hardy should have been given the head coaching position instead of Joe? At least that's what I got out of it

Timeline doesn't make sense for that. Hardy took the Jazz job BEFORE Udoka was suspended for the season.

Hal's correct. But the Celtics knew enough at that time that they should have known that Ime was on very thin ice and could quite possibly be out the door, particularly when stuff like they already knew hits the public eye, which was inevitable.

Lack of forethought on Brad's part.

[FlatearthZorro]

Sadly, I think he will stay. He will need to learn on the job and hopefully he does better next year.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Sadly, I think he will stay. He will need to learn on the job and hopefully he does better next year.

They are not firing him and paying him 4.6 million the next 2 years. We just have to hope Boston gets some better coaches around him.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Sadly, I think he will stay. He will need to learn on the job and hopefully he does better next year.

They are not firing him and paying him 4.6 million the next 2 years. We just have to hope Boston gets some better coaches around him.

KaChinnnnnggggg! We have a winner!

Team is so parsimonious when it comes to these contracts, that they are not eating
his salary. Look at Ime, they didn't just fire him right away, because they didn't want to be responsible for his full salary.

I mean, they're the same idiots who had three nice TEs and ended up only using one of them on Muscala, because they
were not taking the Luxury Tax hit. How did that work out for the Playoffs?