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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#41 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 11:43 am

Bring in 82 year old Larry Brown. Hell he was just an assistant for Penny in Memphis in 2022. Maybe he could be on the staff for a year or two. Who the hell knows. Better than the D3 rejects they'll fill this staff with.
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Post#42 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:13 pm

Who do you think will be brought in as assistants?

We know we need at least 1 vet coach and we know we are probably losing 3 assistants to Ime.


Personally I would love nothing more than bringing in KG as a "bigman coach" someone withgame experience who won it all, who is a dog.

Another guy who I am impressed with his thought process and breakdowns is JJ Reddick.
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Re: Assistant Coaches 

Post#43 » by Hal14 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 1:29 pm

We already have a thread for this

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2294677
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#44 » by shackles10 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 3:16 pm

Silas seems like a lock to be on staff in some capacity so would he get lead assistant position? If not guys like Vogel, Cassell, Borrego make sense as they retain a fairly high profile as a lead assistant on a competitive team and would presumably step in as interim if Joe were let go after a slow start. You couldn't even have to mention that to them, they'd just know it comes with the territory. If Silas is lead assistant I'm not sure any of those guys who have head coaching aspirations are realistic.

The thing about Joe's weird personality is I don't see him as someone who's going to go out and recruit or find guys to be a part of his staff like Ime and others could/do. Joe is far from a salesman. That means it's up to Brad, and that means the fit with players might make sense but how is the fit with Joe? We need guys who can help Joe, who Joe will listen to, and who won't be afraid to call out Joe even if that's just in private and not necessarily on the sidelines. This season it seemed like everyone from Joe down the line was just there and thrown into it even if they were holdovers from Ime's staff and their particular job didn't change. I'm sure that's part of why they're leaving. We certainly can't expect Joe to fill a staff himself and that's another limitation of him. He's built no relationships in the league because he hasn't worked for any other teams and was second row Joe until Ime couldn't keep it in his pants so lacks years of experience most have when getting their first shot.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#45 » by zoyathedestroya » Thu Jun 1, 2023 4:31 pm

Read on Twitter

Hubie Brown?
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#46 » by 165bows » Thu Jun 1, 2023 4:38 pm

Silas has been coaching in the NBA since he was 27 so I think that counts.

On Joe recruiting I disagree on that. The players wanted to bring him in because of their comfort level. He’s stoic but obviously bonds with people he looks like a psycho but mostly isn’t one.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#47 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 4:57 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
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Hubie Brown?


Add a body? Brad you have no coaching staff. None. What in the **** is going on here.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#48 » by celtics543 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 5:32 pm

Give me KG just to yell at people and get them fired up. Beyond that I don't really care who they hire. Has to be someone who will challenge Joe and that the players respect.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#49 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 6:00 pm

I really don't think assistant coaches matter unless the Head coach gets out of the way and let's one of them be the head coach.

Joe ruins things with his rotations and in game decision making.

Doc won a championship by recognizing he had no skills as a coach and then being humble enough to let Thibs win him a title while he just gave some raw raw speeches to the players about how he used to play in the NBA.

All Joe can talk about is how he's also really young and has Snapchat and that's about it.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#50 » by celticfan42487 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 6:03 pm

Bar Fight wrote:Joe Mazzulla would be a solid addition as a back of the bench coach.


We should really submit his resume for that back of the bench coach position for elementary school basketball in India.

That might be too high of a quality for his skill level but if he can trick Stevens into rehiring him maybe he can trick them and learn on the job there.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#51 » by Sactowndog » Thu Jun 1, 2023 6:20 pm

Hal14 wrote:Celtics expected to retain Mazzulla as coach:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271735/Celtics-Expected-To-Retain-Joe-Mazzulla#:~:text=The%20Boston%20Celtics%20are%20expected,permanent%20head%20coach%20in%20February.

3 assistants are expected to join Udoka in Houston:
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/report-three-celtics-assistants-expected-join-ime-udokas-rockets-staff

Who should Brad and Joe hire to fill out the staff?

Here's a list of potential targets, not really in any order..

-Frank Vogel
-Stephen Silas
-Mike D'Antoni
-Sam Cassell
-JJ Redick
-Phil Pressey
-Jarron Collins
-Lloyd Pierce
-James Borrego
-John Lucas
-James Posey
-Rasheed Wallace
-Jay Larranaga
-Dave Joeger
-Charles Lee
-Jerome Allen
-Mahmoud Abdelfattah
-Terry Stotts
-Nate McMillan
-Blake Griffin

My picks?

Silas - his dad played for us and he was seen hanging out with Brad recently at the Celtics facility, plus has some HC experience. Young guy who's black so he can relate to the players

Cassell - lots of experience as an assistant, won 3 rings as a player, including 1 with the Celtics, former player who can relate to our players

Redick - Tatum will love it because he's a Duke legend, seems like a smart guy when he does analysis on basketball podcasts and on TV, young guy and former player who can relate to our guys. Plus, he's one of the best shooters of all time, so he can take over as shooting coach, with Ben Sullivan probably leaving for Houston

I'd put Vogel in there, but seems like a decent chance he lands a HC gig. Also, he might not be cool with being an assistant for a guy he has much more HC experience than

D'Antoni would also be good, but he also might not be cool with being an assistant to a guy he has much more HC experience than - plus he's getting really old so might not want to coach anymore.


Going to be interesting as you would like some continuity but with Damon at G Tech, the 3 guys leaving, even the G league coach left for Butler…..

Going to be a lot of turnover.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#52 » by Sactowndog » Thu Jun 1, 2023 6:24 pm

chrisab123 wrote:Yeah I'm not falling for this. This will be all guys with little to no pro experience. Maybe Laranagga comes back in the absolute best case scenario. They aren't going to hire anyone who will test these guys. All D1 and D2 assistants. Alex Barlow probably joins the staff as well. Again no one with real NBA experience which is the way Stevens likes it.


Barlow just left to join the staff at Butler. I doubt he joins the staff.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#53 » by shackles10 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 7:05 pm

165bows wrote:Silas has been coaching in the NBA since he was 27 so I think that counts.

On Joe recruiting I disagree on that. The players wanted to bring him in because of their comfort level. He’s stoic but obviously bonds with people he looks like a psycho but mostly isn’t one.


Brad brought Joe in though and yes the players like him, but he was already there so to speak. There's been theories that part of why the players like him is he gives them free reign to play how they want, and if true that would matter more than whatever bonds do or do not exist. Of course that could not be true at all, but either way I don't think his relationship with the players on the team speaks to his desire or ability to bring in experienced coaches from the outside. I suppose there's the small angle of Joe reaching out to Quinn Snyder during the year so perhaps you're right, but I don't think so lol.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#54 » by shackles10 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 7:06 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
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Hubie Brown?


Now here's a guy who has decades of experience alright...
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Re: Assistant Coaches 

Post#55 » by shackles10 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 7:57 pm

Merging to the other thread about assistants
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#56 » by Hal14 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 9:54 pm

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So yeah, looking to fill that void with an assistant who can relate to the players and speak their language. A former NBA player, preferably one who's under the age of 50 and/or is black and/or has coaching experience.

Someone like Sam Cassell, JJ Redick, Rasheed Wallace, Stephen Silas, Jarron Collins. Or perhaps Garnett?!
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#57 » by threrf23 » Thu Jun 1, 2023 11:51 pm

Hal14 wrote:
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So yeah, looking to fill that void with an assistant who can relate to the players and speak their language.


I don't see why Joe couldn't relate to players and speak their language.

The problem is that he doesn't back up words with action, doesn't hold players accountable, appears to put little effort into gameplanning, or at least fails to make obvious adjustments, obvious assumptions, and seems a bit unprepared for common end of game situations.

The problem isn't that he doesn't speak their language, IMO the problem is he doesn't seem to take basic HC responsibilities all too seriously and he undermines himself by contradicting himself. Brad was the same way. I think Michael Jordan would lose the locker room's respect in time if he carried himself the same.

I don't doubt that Stoudamire was a meaningful loss, but we had issues before he left.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#58 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Jun 2, 2023 2:00 am

Stephen Silas has a 23-year NBA coaching career.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Silas\

Unless I'm overlooking something, none of that was with teams one would regard as very successful. I think his teams have been in the lottery most seasons, and I'm only sure of one case where he's made it to the second round.

He does seem to have been with LeBron, Steph and Luka for at least their rookie seasons.
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#59 » by NotAKnicksFan » Fri Jun 2, 2023 2:07 am

Borego, stotts and silas

Kg, sheed and pierce
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Re: Who Should We Hire for Assistant Coaches? 

Post#60 » by NotAKnicksFan » Fri Jun 2, 2023 2:09 am

Im all for bringing in terry stotts

I like how charlottes offense was under borego too

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