PLAYOFFS: Rnd 1, Gm 4 – Celtics (2) @ Magic (1) – 7:00PM, Sun, April 27, 2025

[nohandles]

I agree it's time to go in another direction.

Sam is having trouble with Orlando's defense.

Maybe try Craig or Baylor.

Let's see if Joe makes that change in this game.

I think Baylor is a solid option, good handles and size, crafty left-handed shot which defenders aren't used to and is better defensively than Hauser in that he won't be bullied by Paolo or Wagner as easily

[Fierce1]

I agree it's time to go in another direction.

Sam is having trouble with Orlando's defense.

Maybe try Craig or Baylor.

Let's see if Joe makes that change in this game.

I think Baylor is a solid option, good handles and size, crafty left-handed shot which defenders aren't used to and is better defensively than Hauser in that he won't be bullied by Paolo or Wagner as easily

Yeah, I would love to see Baylor get minutes in this series.

Baylor is more than just a shooter.

He can rebound too!

[ThePigeon]

2 of JB's TOs came from offensive fouls that could have been called otherwise
JT with 7 TOs hurt us also

Both need to play better
Refs should protect the players, not the NBA management by extending the series. 3 players injured in 3 games by brutal play without punishment is not protecting the players. ORL does not play basketball on defense

[phincsfan]

This time of year, is when the Load Management and Extended Rotations during the Regular Season, really matter.

Ehhhh. That’s tough because Al looks like he has plenty of gas in the tank. KP is moving well.

As for JT that was from a bad fall, before that he looked great.

JB you can say maybe, but it could have also been a wrong twist.

Jrue has looked good but hammys can happen whenever.

The problem is they just aren’t clicking at the moment. But the window is closing on the season.

If it makes you feel any better, Bird in the 80's could not repeat and KG and Pierce could also not repeat.

So why should this bunch do what those Celtic legends couldn't do, right?

I don’t get the statement or the follow up question?

I remember that 85’ year like it was yesterday because my phins lost the Super Bowl and the C’s lost in the finals.

If it’s because I’m being pessimistic weren’t you beating the drum on how JT and JB had to have been going for personal accolades which was negatively affecting the season?

[Fierce1]

Ehhhh. That’s tough because Al looks like he has plenty of gas in the tank. KP is moving well.

As for JT that was from a bad fall, before that he looked great.

JB you can say maybe, but it could have also been a wrong twist.

Jrue has looked good but hammys can happen whenever.

The problem is they just aren’t clicking at the moment. But the window is closing on the season.

If it makes you feel any better, Bird in the 80's could not repeat and KG and Pierce could also not repeat.

So why should this bunch do what those Celtic legends couldn't do, right?

I don’t get the statement or the follow up question?

I remember that 85’ year like it was yesterday because my phins lost the Super Bowl and the C’s lost in the finals.

If it’s because I’m being pessimistic weren’t you beating the drum on how JT and JB had to have been going for personal accolades which was negatively affecting the season?

The Jays going for personal accolades is the reason why Joe can't go to a deeper rotation.

If you look at the Cavs, Donovan Mitchell is making a sacrifice by agreeing to only 31 minutes per game and one of his lowest scoring averages in his career this season.

[jmr07019]

Orlando was down 2-0 on their home court. Game 3 was their best punch and they barely won. We’re fine. We will make more than 9 3’s / game moving forward. C’s in 5.

[ThePigeon]

Just win. Please

[brackdan70]

Need Pritchard and Hauser to give us more with Jrue out.
Joe. You can play more guys!!!

[Celts17Pride]

Need Pritchard and Hauser to give us more with Jrue out.
Joe. You can play more guys!!!

How about Hauser doing anything? Anything at all

[Fierce1]

I prefer going with Craig or Baylor instead of Sam.

[playa-hater]

People are Ripping Hauser for his play. But how much is it his play or is it the situation? Hauser has a mere 5 shots through 3 games (IIRC) not even 2 attempts per game. There is ZERO ball movement. Almost impossible for a player like that to excel. Case in point a similar player in Max Struss is playing quite well. And that is as a starter. Please don't tell me Struss is a higher-level player. What would Struss be doing here in Hauser's shoes?

For Hauser and PP to get involved, stop running one on one or one pass PNRs and expect anything different from anyone else.

Should note. with Boston's high Turnover amount and few assists, most was with the overdribbling (Jays)

[Celts17Pride]

People are Ripping Hauser for his play. But how much is it his play or is it the situation? Hauser has a mere 5 shots through 3 games (IIRC) not even 2 attempts per game. There is ZERO ball movement. Almost impossible for a player like that to excel. Case in point a similar player in Max Struss is playing quite well. And that is as a starter. Please don't tell me Struss is a higher-level player. What would Struss be doing here in Hauser's shoes?

For Hauser and PP to get involved, stop running one on one or one pass PNRs and expect anything different from anyone else.

Should note. with Boston's high Turnover amount and few assists, most was with the overdribbling (Jays)

Defensively Hauser is an open door. Magic attack him every time he is on the floor. Similar to what the Celtics do with Joesph and Anthony. If Hauser is not hitting three pointers then he is unplayable

[playa-hater]

People are Ripping Hauser for his play. But how much is it his play or is it the situation? Hauser has a mere 5 shots through 3 games (IIRC) not even 2 attempts per game. There is ZERO ball movement. Almost impossible for a player like that to excel. Case in point a similar player in Max Struss is playing quite well. And that is as a starter. Please don't tell me Struss is a higher-level player. What would Struss be doing here in Hauser's shoes?

For Hauser and PP to get involved, stop running one on one or one pass PNRs and expect anything different from anyone else.

Should note. with Boston's high Turnover amount and few assists, most was with the overdribbling (Jays)

Defensively Hauser is an open door. Magic attack him every time he is on the floor. Similar to what the Celtics do with Joesph and Anthony. If Hauser is not hitting three pointers then he is unplayable

TC it's not stopping Banchero either and either is Scheierman. If Sam gets burned again today on defense, then I will agree with above

[Fierce1]

What Craig and Baylor can do that Sam can't?

Both Craig and Baylor can drive to the basket and score.
When you run them off the 3pt line, they can drive to the basket.

Sam is just very limited.
Even Sam's passing is not very good.
That's why if Sam can't make 3s then he's basically useless.

The fast break opportunities are also very limited if Sam and PP are in the game.
They're both below the rim guys that don't have blazing speed.

Since Jrue is not playing, there's really an opportunity for Craig in this game.
I mean the Cs signed him because he has playoff experience and is also a good shooter.

Baylor is a long shot, but he's more than just a shooter.
He's a rookie, but he can drive, pass, rebound, and is a very good 3pt shooter.

So let's see if Joe does something different in this game.

[phincsfan]

Magic did a very good job pushing them off the 3 line the other night. Need KP to keep them honest in the paint. He’s getting good looks, there’re just not falling.

[return2glory]

We are as good as White and Jrue take us. This is a .500 team without them.

We are getting beat up because we are a team full of nice guys. Joe is making no adjustments. Play Craig and Tillman some minutes Joe! Maybe even Queta. Hauser has given nothing in this series. Nothing. KP and Kornet close to nothing.

As a coach, when you see KP giving you nothing on both ends, seeing Wagner destroy KP, and you just sit and watch? Make some adjustments. Tillman can guard him for about 10 minutes a game and so can Craig. KP has been a a half a step too slow vs Wagner. Jrue is so important to this team because he can do a solid job guarding Wagner and Banchero for stretches.

KP needs to show up and his minutes need to be limited to 24 minutes or less. Role players not only need to play but step up with Jrue.

[Riverwalk2021]

Porzingis needs to stop playing like he has a bet on the other team and we win. That’s the only key for this and the next series.

Hauser like many have said is a reg season minute eater but he is not a po rotation guy.
He averaged 5ppg last post season and was unplayable in multiple series. He’s a decent defender but in the POs against better players, he’s bbq chicken. We ain’t playing the Wizards and Jazz anymore. With Jrue injured, we are forced to play him sadly.

[redslastlaugh]

I'd say play them both. We're missing at least Holiday. If it's Holiday and Brown that's 75 minutes to fill.

Through three games we're only playing nine: JT, JB, Jrue, White, KP, Al, Sam, Luke and PP
Last season we played 11 guys over the run, those nine plus Tillman and Brissett situationally

For context the 12 man roster of 08 title team (in order of playoff minutes played)
1. Pierce
2. Allen
3. Garnett
4. Rondo
5. Perkins
6. Posey
7. PJ Brown
8. Powe
9. Cassell
10. E House
11. Big Baby
12. Tony Allen

The top 11 all played at least 100 playoff min, 26 yr old TA only played 65 mins the entire playoffs. that's depth
You'd think, if we're gonna have a long playoff run this year, we're gonna have to play more than nine guys.

I prefer going with Craig or Baylor instead of Sam.

[ConstableGeneva]

I'd say play them both. We're missing at least Holiday. If it's Holiday and Brown that's 75 minutes to fill.

Through three games we're only playing nine: JT, JB, Jrue, White, KP, Al, Sam, Luke and PP
Last season we played 11 guys over the run, those nine plus Tillman and Brissett situationally

For context the 12 man roster of 08 title team (in order of playoff minutes played)
1. Pierce
2. Allen
3. Garnett
4. Rondo
5. Perkins
6. Posey
7. PJ Brown
8. Powe
9. Cassell
10. E House
11. Big Baby
12. Tony Allen

The top 11 all played at least 100 playoff min, 26 yr old TA only played 65 mins the entire playoffs. that's depth
You'd think, if we're gonna have a long playoff run this year, we're gonna have to play more than nine guys.

I prefer going with Craig or Baylor instead of Sam.

I get where you're coming from but Tillman and Brissett didn't play real minutes until ECF. They were getting garbage time duty in the first two rounds.

[redslastlaugh]

I get where you're coming from but Tillman and Brissett didn't play real minutes until ECF. They were getting garbage time duty in the first two rounds.

Last years first round, Kristaps got hurt but we could still run starters with Al.
This year Jrue already missing 2 games and JB being hindered, is a significantly more challenging problem.

How to approach it? I'd probably increase the rotation, try to play faster, among other things. But the basic issue of JB/Jrue being on the injury report is just a bigger problem than last yrs first round, imo