The Trade-Mill - Trade Thread Part Infinity

truth18 · Post #401 » by **truth18** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:01 pm

KD to Cleveland?

Don't give Lebron ideas Pacino :wink:

Pacino62 · Post #402 » by **Pacino62** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:05 pm

Lmfao. I agree. I'd be puking like Will if it happened. Just saying. It's inevitable that Bron's going to get in the hunt. Right?

rickrolled · Post #403 » by **rickrolled** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:21 pm

According to Gary Tangay the mystery player could've been Anthony Davis..

I know he's a troll sometimes, a hipster troll.. But if we can at least start believing we have a shot at Davis...I'm salivating at the thought. If we can aqcuire him...plus keep our key guys, Smart, IT, Crowder. I believe we have as great a shot at Durant as anyone.

ConstableGeneva · Post #404 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:27 pm

I was just wondering, why haven't the people of Boston run Tanguay out of town yet? Send him to Brooklyn to be with Donny Marshall (is he still there?).

Banks2Pierce · Post #405 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:31 pm

I'd rather discuss the feasibility of cloning Larry Bird and having him start for us next year than any Anthony Davis scenario.

truth18 · Post #406 » by **truth18** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:31 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:I was just wondering, why haven't the people of Boston run Tanguay out of town yet? Send him to Brooklyn to be with Donny Marshall (is he still there?).

Yes, and again, another guy whose name you shouldn't even mention. A demon gets his wings every time you say Donny Marshall.

ConstableGeneva · Post #407 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:33 pm

truth18 wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:I was just wondering, why haven't the people of Boston run Tanguay out of town yet? Send him to Brooklyn to be with Donny Marshall (is he still there?).

Yes, and again, another guy whose name you shouldn't even mention. A demon gets his wings every time you say Donny Marshall.

Dammit, I should know these things.

Post #408 » by **Froob** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:35 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:I'd rather discuss the feasibility of cloning Larry Bird and having him start for us next year than any Anthony Davis scenario.

Right on point. After this season he'll be 23 and still locked up another five. There's zero percent chance they had any real discussion on trading Davis here.

truth18 · Post #409 » by **truth18** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:45 pm

lolwut?

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1428731

Morey lmao. Now do you see why I said we were never getting Howard?

Captain_Caveman · Post #410 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:45 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
Froob wrote:Why do people continue to say this? Perkins has been trash since the ACL injury. There was noway we were beating Miami that year with Perkins, nor was he putting them over the top in future years. He was actually a huge reason the Thunder lost to Miami in 2012 because Scott Brooks wouldn't stop playing him so much.

I don't get it, either.

That was an A+ trade, we just got bad luck afterwards, and blew the pick on Melo instead of Draymond or several other good choices.

Yeah, hell, forget the pick. We got a moderately useful pair of players in Green/Krstic back and traded away a guy who immediately became completely useless post-ACL. We gave up a carton of expire milk and got back something of value.

Yeah, we all love Perk, but people are thinking pre- rather than post-ACL.

Not only did he get completely run off the floor by Chandler in that year's playoffs, the death knell for him as a Celtic was that game just before the deadline where Howard just f--king destroyed him. He was killing his gimpy ass so bad that Perkins eventually just gave up and put him in a bear hug, haha. I can't be the only one who remembers that. We had to put Baby on him because at least he could score on the other end when he was getting his ass kicked on defense.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSe36-i4ucI[/youtube]

Even at his best, Perkins was a 24mpg guy who couldn't score or rebound, and who we could not put on the floor at the end of games due to his poor FT shooting. The only plus Perkins ever really had was as an intimidating physical force who could slow down opposing bigs. Once Dwight was over that, and Perk lost a step, he really served no purpose for us -- or for anyone else ever since.

Jeff Green all damn day over post-ACL Perkins. Not even close. And especially so once the balance of power shifted to having to beat a smallball Miami team led by LeBron, rather than the Howard Magic. Add in already having Shaq and Jermaine, and our getting Krstic and a Clippers pick which could easily have been late lottery if not for the CP3 trade that made them good for the first time in a million years, and I just don't see what we are talking about here.

P.S. Perkins also would have been an unrestricted free agent at the end of that season, and could easily have gotten $10m a year on the open market despite being damaged goods and totally useless.

truth18 · Post #411 » by **truth18** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:48 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
Gomes3PC wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
I don't get it, either.

That was an A+ trade, we just got bad luck afterwards, and blew the pick on Melo instead of Draymond or several other good choices.

Yeah, hell, forget the pick. We got a moderately useful pair of players in Green/Krstic back and traded away a guy who immediately became completely useless post-ACL. We gave up a carton of expire milk and got back something of value.

Yeah, we all love Perk, but people are thinking pre- rather than post-ACL.

Not only did he get completely run off the floor by Chandler in that year's playoffs, the death knell for him as a Celtic was that game where Howard just f--king destroyed him. He was killing his gimpy ass so bad that Perkins eventually just gave up and put him in a bear hug, haha. I can't be the only one who remembers that. We had to put Baby on him because at least he could score on the other end when he was getting his ass kicked on defense.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSe36-i4ucI[/youtube]

Even at his best, Perkins was a 24mpg guy who couldn't score or rebound, and who we could not put on the floor at the end of games due to his poor FT shooting. The only plus Perkins ever really had was as an intimidating physical force who could slow down opposing bigs. Once Dwight was over that, and Perk lost a step, he really served no purpose for us -- or for anyone else ever since.

Jeff Green all damn day over post-ACL Perkins. Not even close. And especially so once the balance of power shifted to having to beat a smallball Miami team led by LeBron, rather than the Howard Magic. Add in already having Shaq and Jermaine, and our getting Krstic and a Clippers pick which could easily have been late lottery if not for the CP3 trade that made them good for the first time in a million years, and I just don't see what we are talking about here.

P.S. Perkins also would have been an unrestricted free agent at the end of that season, and could easily have gotten $10m a year on the open market despite being damaged goods and totally useless.

Again, the trade wasn't bad (it was fantastic), and I'm actually one of the few Cs fans who couldn't stand Perk (plus I WAS a Jeff Green fan at the time and until he quit on us), but I think he had a noticeable effect on our team's morale and locker room chemistry, but you're welcome to disagree. I think we can agree on one thing: **** the 2011/12 Celtics seasons.

I'm pretty sure no one is saying it was a bad trade from an on court/talent perspective. And if they are, they are incorrect.

Post #412 » by **djFan71** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:56 pm

Also, don't forget we got a healthy replacement center in Krstic who had some good games, but ultimately fell victim to Doc's inability to incorporate players on the fly.

Captain_Caveman · Post #413 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:58 pm

truth18 wrote:Again, the trade wasn't bad (it was fantastic), and I'm actually one of the few Cs fans who couldn't stand Perk (plus I WAS a Jeff Green fan at the time and until he quit on us), but I think he had a noticeable effect on our team's morale and locker room chemistry, but you're welcome to disagree. I think we can agree on one thing: **** the 2011/12 Celtics seasons.

I'm pretty sure no one is saying it was a bad trade from an on court/talent perspective. And if they are, they are incorrect.

All good, as a fellow Celts fan who no longer lives in Boston, I hear all the time how that trade cost us a title. From fans of other teams, and ours too. It was just the standard accepted narrative for that trade for several years, and some still hold onto that myth.

Just don't agree with that at all. Never mind the fact that Rondo got injured in the playoffs that year, just watch the first 3.5 of that youtube above. Perkins was all done. He couldn't even move out there. The irony of the Thunder getting docked a pick for hiding Green's heart condition is that we were actually the ones who sold the damaged goods haha. I mean, has Perkins had a single good game since his ACL injury 6 years ago?

truth18 · Post #414 » by **truth18** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:03 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
truth18 wrote:Again, the trade wasn't bad (it was fantastic), and I'm actually one of the few Cs fans who couldn't stand Perk (plus I WAS a Jeff Green fan at the time and until he quit on us), but I think he had a noticeable effect on our team's morale and locker room chemistry, but you're welcome to disagree. I think we can agree on one thing: **** the 2011/12 Celtics seasons.

I'm pretty sure no one is saying it was a bad trade from an on court/talent perspective. And if they are, they are incorrect.

All good, as a fellow Celts fan who no longer lives in Boston, I hear all the time how that trade cost us a title. From fans of other teams, and ours too. It was just the standard accepted narrative for that trade for several years, and some still hold onto that myth.

Just don't agree with that at all. Never mind the fact that Rondo got injured in the playoffs that year, just watch the first 3.5 of that youtube above. Perkins was all done. He couldn't even move out there. The irony of the Thunder getting docked a pick for hiding Green's heart condition is that we were actually the ones who sold the damaged goods haha. I mean, has Perkins had a single good game since his ACL injury 6 years ago?

Wow. Most people I know in real life don't watch basketball at all, so I have never heard that sentiment. Now I understand where you and Froob are coming from. His on court play was definitely not a factor in our struggles that year and its pretty ridiculous to think it was. Video is hilarious/saddening.

Fencer reregistered · Post #415 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:19 am

I think the price for Anthony Davis just went higher yet. Absent some catastrophic turmoil in New Orleans, I don't see any realistic hope of getting him.

fallguy · Post #416 » by **fallguy** » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:57 am

Celtics were the best team in the league that year up until Shaq got hurt.

The Perk trade wasn't the problem. Even though Jeff Green wasn't the solution. But he was a useful defender against LBJ that year.

The real thing that doomed the 2010-11 Celtics (before the Rondo injury further doomed them) was that Ainge bet on Krstic, Shaq and O'Neal being able to cover the center spot. And they failed. O'Neal in particular was a complete deadbeat that year. He wouldn't even return Boston's calls while he was "rehabbing" out of town. It was really too bad - the starting five with Shaq at the 5-spot was the best unit the Celtics had during the KG-PP-RA era.

Afam · Post #417 » by **Afam** » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:12 am

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ConstableGeneva · Post #418 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:21 am

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Fencer reregistered · Post #419 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:26 am

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Fencer reregistered · Post #420 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:27 am

CrowderKeg wrote:It's Blake Griffin, man. That's my best guess.

Another fit.