What now?

[Stadium5]

No one cares that "you don't care".

You can disagree all you want, but no one wants to read negative crap all day long. You're certainly not "calling it how it is" if everything is negative, because this team is in very good shape and your GM has done a very good job.

When I'm readings nonsense like Banners taking about "wiping up diarrhea on Danny Ainge's face", it's time to draw the line.

yet you care enough to tell me how much you dont care

Then don't read it. Not my problem that you taking anything beneath outright praise for Ainge as being negative. I've said over and over, he did a great job locking these guys up in cheap contracts. He excels in minor trades where he always seems to be on the winning side of them However, his drafting is not very good. He tries to outsmart everyone in the room and consistently reaches for players he could have at later picks. And not outright punting/tanking during the first 3 years of the rebuild was completely idiotic in itself. I don't think fanboy Wyc does Danny any favors, but Danny needs to be a little more proactive and a lot less gun shy if hes going to be heading down this "Pretend to compete while leaving options open nonsense". You pick one or the other, and it just so happens that had he tanked the past 3 years, we'd be in a better spot than we are now considering we now have to stay inside the house for a while before we can even think about competing since this GSW storm has to finish up first

Please....the entire board doesn't want to keep skipping over the consistently negative spin stuff you two post. You guys clog up every discussion with it.

Bro, at the end of the day, just don't post it. We all want to see this team do well.

Making everything "doom and gloom" when in reality, it really isn't, isn't constructive conversation whatsoever.

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

[Stadium5]

No one cares that "you don't care".

You can disagree all you want, but no one wants to read negative crap all day long. You're certainly not "calling it how it is" if everything is negative, because this team is in very good shape and your GM has done a very good job.

When I'm readings nonsense like Banners taking about "wiping up diarrhea on Danny Ainge's face", it's time to draw the line.

yet you care enough to tell me how much you dont care

Then don't read it. Not my problem that you taking anything beneath outright praise for Ainge as being negative. I've said over and over, he did a great job locking these guys up in cheap contracts. He excels in minor trades where he always seems to be on the winning side of them However, his drafting is not very good. He tries to outsmart everyone in the room and consistently reaches for players he could have at later picks. And not outright punting/tanking during the first 3 years of the rebuild was completely idiotic in itself. I don't think fanboy Wyc does Danny any favors, but Danny needs to be a little more proactive and a lot less gun shy if hes going to be heading down this "Pretend to compete while leaving options open nonsense". You pick one or the other, and it just so happens that had he tanked the past 3 years, we'd be in a better spot than we are now considering we now have to stay inside the house for a while before we can even think about competing since this GSW storm has to finish up first

How would we be in a better spot? That doesn't make any sense. We have like unlimited young talent to build around. Who did we miss out on that you're losing sleep over?

By drafting higher slotted prospects and having higher valued assets in them throughout the league? How does that not make sense to you?

Terry Rozier?..Really Danny?

And I'd like to hear your description of "unlimited" and "talent"

[Homerclease]

yet you care enough to tell me how much you dont care

Then don't read it. Not my problem that you taking anything beneath outright praise for Ainge as being negative. I've said over and over, he did a great job locking these guys up in cheap contracts. He excels in minor trades where he always seems to be on the winning side of them However, his drafting is not very good. He tries to outsmart everyone in the room and consistently reaches for players he could have at later picks. And not outright punting/tanking during the first 3 years of the rebuild was completely idiotic in itself. I don't think fanboy Wyc does Danny any favors, but Danny needs to be a little more proactive and a lot less gun shy if hes going to be heading down this "Pretend to compete while leaving options open nonsense". You pick one or the other, and it just so happens that had he tanked the past 3 years, we'd be in a better spot than we are now considering we now have to stay inside the house for a while before we can even think about competing since this GSW storm has to finish up first

Please....the entire board doesn't want to keep skipping over the consistently negative spin stuff you two post. You guys clog up every discussion with it.

Bro, at the end of the day, just don't post it. We all want to see this team do well.

Making everything "doom and gloom" when in reality, it really isn't, isn't constructive conversation whatsoever.

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

Stadium and I disagree on just about everything but he absolutely has a right to post whatever he damn well pleases that falls within the terms of service. He wishes the Celtics did things differently and it's his right to think that just like its our right to disagree with him.

[BigTrade92]

yet you care enough to tell me how much you dont care

Then don't read it. Not my problem that you taking anything beneath outright praise for Ainge as being negative. I've said over and over, he did a great job locking these guys up in cheap contracts. He excels in minor trades where he always seems to be on the winning side of them However, his drafting is not very good. He tries to outsmart everyone in the room and consistently reaches for players he could have at later picks. And not outright punting/tanking during the first 3 years of the rebuild was completely idiotic in itself. I don't think fanboy Wyc does Danny any favors, but Danny needs to be a little more proactive and a lot less gun shy if hes going to be heading down this "Pretend to compete while leaving options open nonsense". You pick one or the other, and it just so happens that had he tanked the past 3 years, we'd be in a better spot than we are now considering we now have to stay inside the house for a while before we can even think about competing since this GSW storm has to finish up first

Please....the entire board doesn't want to keep skipping over the consistently negative spin stuff you two post. You guys clog up every discussion with it.

Bro, at the end of the day, just don't post it. We all want to see this team do well.

Making everything "doom and gloom" when in reality, it really isn't, isn't constructive conversation whatsoever.

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

That's because there's no actual reason to criticize Ainge, other than being impatient.

It's well known what good position this team is in. I'm not going to list the positives here.

But to make it seem like he's crap and this team is crap because Kevin freakin Durant decide to sign with Golden State is just plain stupid.

If that's how you're judging Ainge, the position he put this team in and our future, well then how can I hold a serious, basketball conversation with you and take you seriously?

[ajones9219]

yet you care enough to tell me how much you dont care

Then don't read it. Not my problem that you taking anything beneath outright praise for Ainge as being negative. I've said over and over, he did a great job locking these guys up in cheap contracts. He excels in minor trades where he always seems to be on the winning side of them However, his drafting is not very good. He tries to outsmart everyone in the room and consistently reaches for players he could have at later picks. And not outright punting/tanking during the first 3 years of the rebuild was completely idiotic in itself. I don't think fanboy Wyc does Danny any favors, but Danny needs to be a little more proactive and a lot less gun shy if hes going to be heading down this "Pretend to compete while leaving options open nonsense". You pick one or the other, and it just so happens that had he tanked the past 3 years, we'd be in a better spot than we are now considering we now have to stay inside the house for a while before we can even think about competing since this GSW storm has to finish up first

Please....the entire board doesn't want to keep skipping over the consistently negative spin stuff you two post. You guys clog up every discussion with it.

Bro, at the end of the day, just don't post it. We all want to see this team do well.

Making everything "doom and gloom" when in reality, it really isn't, isn't constructive conversation whatsoever.

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

Pessimists lack the ability to distinguish pessimism with realism. You're not being realistic. Having said that, if you'd like to bitch about ainge all day, feel free to open a thread about it and you and banners can go nuts but most of us are tired of hearing it. You can be critical of certain ainge choices but constantly complaining about him when we are one of the most well set up franchises is just annoying and comes off as intentional trolling

[Stadium5]

Please....the entire board doesn't want to keep skipping over the consistently negative spin stuff you two post. You guys clog up every discussion with it.

Bro, at the end of the day, just don't post it. We all want to see this team do well.

Making everything "doom and gloom" when in reality, it really isn't, isn't constructive conversation whatsoever.

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

Stadium and I disagree on just about everything but he absolutely has a right to post whatever he damn well pleases that falls within the terms of service. He wishes the Celtics did things differently and it's his right to think that just like its our right to disagree with him.

I respect this alot, and its the kind of discussion that can be had when people are on two different sides of the aisle in terms of philosophy, but nobody needs to act all high and mighty over the other one

[BigTrade92]

Please....the entire board doesn't want to keep skipping over the consistently negative spin stuff you two post. You guys clog up every discussion with it.

Bro, at the end of the day, just don't post it. We all want to see this team do well.

Making everything "doom and gloom" when in reality, it really isn't, isn't constructive conversation whatsoever.

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

Pessimists lack the ability to distinguish pessimism with realism. You're not being realistic. Having said that, if you'd like to bitch about ainge all day, feel free to open a thread about it and you and banners can go nuts but most of us are tired of hearing it. You can be critical of certain ainge choices but constantly complaining about him when we are one of the most well set up franchises is just annoying and comes off as intentional trolling

Exactly.

No one is saying you "can't post here" and can't be critical. Don't be absurd.

But when every post is "ham and eggs", "our team stinks" and "Danny Ainge sucks", it really does come off as just pure trolling.

[Stadium5]

Please....the entire board doesn't want to keep skipping over the consistently negative spin stuff you two post. You guys clog up every discussion with it.

Bro, at the end of the day, just don't post it. We all want to see this team do well.

Making everything "doom and gloom" when in reality, it really isn't, isn't constructive conversation whatsoever.

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

That's because there's no actual reason to criticize Ainge, other than being impatient.

It's well known what good position this team is in. I'm not going to list the positives here.

But to make it seem like he's crap and this team is crap because Kevin freakin Durant decide to sign with Golden State is just plain stupid.

If that's how you're judging Ainge, the position he put this team in and our future, well then how can I hold a serious, basketball conversation with you and take you seriously?

"Other than being impatient"

Ok....well being impatient was major flaw number 1 that resulted in the rest of his moves that warrant criticism. It doesn't help that people like you always give him a pass, and up until this point he hasn't had any fire under his ass to really go out and do a better job.

I'm sick of "there's always next year". Rebuild the right way, and actually compete for a sustained period when the time comes.

I've been preaching this since before the Durant fiasco, so don't start pinning nonsense on me if you don;t know what youre talking about

[ajones9219]

yet you care enough to tell me how much you dont care

Then don't read it. Not my problem that you taking anything beneath outright praise for Ainge as being negative. I've said over and over, he did a great job locking these guys up in cheap contracts. He excels in minor trades where he always seems to be on the winning side of them However, his drafting is not very good. He tries to outsmart everyone in the room and consistently reaches for players he could have at later picks. And not outright punting/tanking during the first 3 years of the rebuild was completely idiotic in itself. I don't think fanboy Wyc does Danny any favors, but Danny needs to be a little more proactive and a lot less gun shy if hes going to be heading down this "Pretend to compete while leaving options open nonsense". You pick one or the other, and it just so happens that had he tanked the past 3 years, we'd be in a better spot than we are now considering we now have to stay inside the house for a while before we can even think about competing since this GSW storm has to finish up first

How would we be in a better spot? That doesn't make any sense. We have like unlimited young talent to build around. Who did we miss out on that you're losing sleep over?

By drafting higher slotted prospects and having higher valued assets in them throughout the league? How does that not make sense to you?

Terry Rozier?..Really Danny?

And I'd like to hear your description of "unlimited" and "talent"

We could have sold off every vet/decent player for draft picks and we still wouldn't have been bottom 5 due to some historically bad teams and our young talent /excellent coaching.

[Stadium5]

Please....the entire board doesn't want to keep skipping over the consistently negative spin stuff you two post. You guys clog up every discussion with it.

Bro, at the end of the day, just don't post it. We all want to see this team do well.

Making everything "doom and gloom" when in reality, it really isn't, isn't constructive conversation whatsoever.

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

Pessimists lack the ability to distinguish pessimism with realism. You're not being realistic. Having said that, if you'd like to bitch about ainge all day, feel free to open a thread about it and you and banners can go nuts but most of us are tired of hearing it. You can be critical of certain ainge choices but constantly complaining about him when we are one of the most well set up franchises is just annoying and comes off as intentional trolling

We actually did have a tank thread last season that got overrun by Humblebum and you forever optimists asking mods to lock it, so there goes that idea. You're not gonna isolate us in the corner just because we don't get our jollies off fantasizing about a godly gallinari type trade your god ainge might be rumored to make. We like actual, long term moves that show true progress. Not dirty bandaids that get the homers excited for 2 more wins and a 1st round exit appearance

[BigTrade92]

Lol are you seriously trying to tell me what not to post? Get over yourself. I don't clog up anything. All I see BigTrade92 posting is attacks on people who voice any sort of criticism of Ainge at all and its becoming pretty anoying in itself, but you don't see me telling you what to post and what not to post. There's no doom and gloom here, it is what it is. If you think the Celtics are in a good spot to contend with the 73 win + Durant Warriors within the next 3 years then more power to you, but I'm all set with entertaining that fantasy and would much prefer discussing alternative rebuilding strategies with people who have the same philosophy as me

That's because there's no actual reason to criticize Ainge, other than being impatient.

It's well known what good position this team is in. I'm not going to list the positives here.

But to make it seem like he's crap and this team is crap because Kevin freakin Durant decide to sign with Golden State is just plain stupid.

If that's how you're judging Ainge, the position he put this team in and our future, well then how can I hold a serious, basketball conversation with you and take you seriously?

"Other than being impatient"

Ok....well being impatient was major flaw number 1 that resulted in the rest of his moves that warrant criticism. It doesn't help that people like you always give him a pass, and up until this point he hasn't had any fire under his ass to really go out and do a better job.

I'm sick of "there's always next year". Rebuild the right way, and actually compete for a sustained period when the time comes.

I've been preaching this since before the Durant fiasco, so don't start pinning nonsense on me if you don;t know what youre talking about

Huh? He's been impatient? Really?

Did he sign Mozgov and Evan Turner to big deals? Did he not just have two max slots open and the chance to bring aboard a KD? Wait...he did. Why? Because he's been patient and hasn't made panic moves, just because the rebuild is longer than some fans want it to be.

Bro, we all are "sick of waiting till next year", but there's very little DANNY AINGE can do to change that.

He put us in position to get KD. He didn't choose us, that's not Ainge's fault.

He stock piled our assets with picks and solid players on very good deals. He's trying to make that big move but there's simply none out there that will immediately turn this franchise around in one day.

It's not fun, but patience is a must in team building.

[Stadium5]

How would we be in a better spot? That doesn't make any sense. We have like unlimited young talent to build around. Who did we miss out on that you're losing sleep over?

By drafting higher slotted prospects and having higher valued assets in them throughout the league? How does that not make sense to you?

Terry Rozier?..Really Danny?

And I'd like to hear your description of "unlimited" and "talent"

We could have sold off every vet/decent player for draft picks and we still wouldn't have been bottom 5 due to some historically bad teams and our young talent /excellent coaching.

Not true at all. Some strategic tanking, as in sitting healthy players even for a bump or bruise, or putting in some suspect lineups would have gone a long way. You don't need to surrender all your assets to the bare bone and become Philly. Just don't waste time playing people like Evan Turner, Amir Johnson, other vets that wont help us long term. Lose games you'd otherwise compete in by giving Smart and other young players ton of minutes. Even if we jumped a few more draft spots up in some drafts it could have been a game changer

[Stadium5]

That's because there's no actual reason to criticize Ainge, other than being impatient.

It's well known what good position this team is in. I'm not going to list the positives here.

But to make it seem like he's crap and this team is crap because Kevin freakin Durant decide to sign with Golden State is just plain stupid.

If that's how you're judging Ainge, the position he put this team in and our future, well then how can I hold a serious, basketball conversation with you and take you seriously?

"Other than being impatient"

Ok....well being impatient was major flaw number 1 that resulted in the rest of his moves that warrant criticism. It doesn't help that people like you always give him a pass, and up until this point he hasn't had any fire under his ass to really go out and do a better job.

I'm sick of "there's always next year". Rebuild the right way, and actually compete for a sustained period when the time comes.

I've been preaching this since before the Durant fiasco, so don't start pinning nonsense on me if you don;t know what youre talking about

Huh? He's been impatient? Really?

Did he sign Mozgov and Evan Turner to big deals? Did he not just have two max slots open and the chance to bring aboard a KD? Wait...he did. Why? Because he's been patient and hasn't made panic moves, just because the rebuild is longer than some fans want it to be.

Bro, we all are "sick of waiting till next year", but there's very little DANNY AINGE can do to change that.

He put us in position to get KD. He didn't choose us, that's not Ainge's fault.

He stock piled our assets with picks and solid players on very good deals. He's trying to make that big move but there's simply none out there that will immediately turn this franchise around in one day.

It's not fun, but patience is a must in team building.

Making the playoffs the past two years is anything but a patient move. Again, I think Wyc has a lot to do with this. I've heard his interviews on the radio, the man is completely fan boy level delusional when it comes to his players

[ajones9219]

By drafting higher slotted prospects and having higher valued assets in them throughout the league? How does that not make sense to you?

Terry Rozier?..Really Danny?

And I'd like to hear your description of "unlimited" and "talent"

We could have sold off every vet/decent player for draft picks and we still wouldn't have been bottom 5 due to some historically bad teams and our young talent /excellent coaching.

Not true at all. Some strategic tanking, as in sitting healthy players even for a bump or bruise, or putting in some suspect lineups would have gone a long way. You don't need to surrender all your assets to the bare bone and become Philly. Just don't waste time playing people like Evan Turner, Amir Johnson, other vets that wont help us long term. Lose games you'd otherwise compete in by giving Smart and other young players ton of minutes. Even if we jumped a few more draft spots up in some drafts it could have been a game changer

You also run the high probability that you'll never land an impact free agent for the sake of jumping a few draft spots.

[BigTrade92]

"Other than being impatient"

Ok....well being impatient was major flaw number 1 that resulted in the rest of his moves that warrant criticism. It doesn't help that people like you always give him a pass, and up until this point he hasn't had any fire under his ass to really go out and do a better job.

I'm sick of "there's always next year". Rebuild the right way, and actually compete for a sustained period when the time comes.

I've been preaching this since before the Durant fiasco, so don't start pinning nonsense on me if you don;t know what youre talking about

Huh? He's been impatient? Really?

Did he sign Mozgov and Evan Turner to big deals? Did he not just have two max slots open and the chance to bring aboard a KD? Wait...he did. Why? Because he's been patient and hasn't made panic moves, just because the rebuild is longer than some fans want it to be.

Bro, we all are "sick of waiting till next year", but there's very little DANNY AINGE can do to change that.

He put us in position to get KD. He didn't choose us, that's not Ainge's fault.

He stock piled our assets with picks and solid players on very good deals. He's trying to make that big move but there's simply none out there that will immediately turn this franchise around in one day.

It's not fun, but patience is a must in team building.

Making the playoffs the past two years is anything but a patient move. Again, I think Wyc has a lot to do with this. I've heard his interviews on the radio, the man is completely fan boy level delusional when it comes to his players

I totally disagree.

We had a chance to sign Durant just because we made the playoffs two years in a row.

You think Durant even considers this team if we tanked? Not a chance.

Going to the playoffs and doing what we've done put this team on the map for players around the league. Stars now take notice of Boston. Heck, we just signed our biggest FA ever in Horford. We don't sign him if we tank.

Because of our playoff runs, people realize what a genius Brad Stevens really is. You think people are saying that about Brett Brown?

We exported our tank to Brooklyn. There's no reason to tank since they're doing that for us. Therefore what we're doing is without a doubt the best course of action we could and can take.

[ajones9219]

"Other than being impatient"

Ok....well being impatient was major flaw number 1 that resulted in the rest of his moves that warrant criticism. It doesn't help that people like you always give him a pass, and up until this point he hasn't had any fire under his ass to really go out and do a better job.

I'm sick of "there's always next year". Rebuild the right way, and actually compete for a sustained period when the time comes.

I've been preaching this since before the Durant fiasco, so don't start pinning nonsense on me if you don;t know what youre talking about

Huh? He's been impatient? Really?

Did he sign Mozgov and Evan Turner to big deals? Did he not just have two max slots open and the chance to bring aboard a KD? Wait...he did. Why? Because he's been patient and hasn't made panic moves, just because the rebuild is longer than some fans want it to be.

Bro, we all are "sick of waiting till next year", but there's very little DANNY AINGE can do to change that.

He put us in position to get KD. He didn't choose us, that's not Ainge's fault.

He stock piled our assets with picks and solid players on very good deals. He's trying to make that big move but there's simply none out there that will immediately turn this franchise around in one day.

It's not fun, but patience is a must in team building.

Making the playoffs the past two years is anything but a patient move. Again, I think Wyc has a lot to do with this. I've heard his interviews on the radio, the man is completely fan boy level delusional when it comes to his players

Because our players are good. I live in Ohio and I hear from cavs fans all the time that they would trade any player not named LeBron or kyrie for bradley, crowder or smart straight up. The perception of our franchise is that it is one of the most asset stacked teams in the NBA

[Stadium5]

We could have sold off every vet/decent player for draft picks and we still wouldn't have been bottom 5 due to some historically bad teams and our young talent /excellent coaching.

Not true at all. Some strategic tanking, as in sitting healthy players even for a bump or bruise, or putting in some suspect lineups would have gone a long way. You don't need to surrender all your assets to the bare bone and become Philly. Just don't waste time playing people like Evan Turner, Amir Johnson, other vets that wont help us long term. Lose games you'd otherwise compete in by giving Smart and other young players ton of minutes. Even if we jumped a few more draft spots up in some drafts it could have been a game changer

You also run the high probability that you'll never land an impact free agent for the sake of jumping a few draft spots.

We run the high probability of never landing an impact free agent anyways. Consider me not enthused about landing a 30 year old who made his career headlining a treadmilling team in the Eastern conference. I'd much prefer landing a 19-20 year old special talent who has 0 NBA miles on his legs and a clean slate to build special legacy in Boston for himself. But I know I know, I'm the impatient one for being ok waiting 4 years for such draft pick to bloom

[ajones9219]

Not true at all. Some strategic tanking, as in sitting healthy players even for a bump or bruise, or putting in some suspect lineups would have gone a long way. You don't need to surrender all your assets to the bare bone and become Philly. Just don't waste time playing people like Evan Turner, Amir Johnson, other vets that wont help us long term. Lose games you'd otherwise compete in by giving Smart and other young players ton of minutes. Even if we jumped a few more draft spots up in some drafts it could have been a game changer

You also run the high probability that you'll never land an impact free agent for the sake of jumping a few draft spots.

We run the high probability of never landing an impact free agent anyways. Consider me not enthused about landing a 30 year old who made his career headlining a treadmilling team in the Eastern conference. I'd much prefer landing a 19-20 year old special talent who has 0 NBA miles on his legs and a clean slate to build special legacy in Boston for himself. But I know I know, I'm the impatient one for being ok waiting 4 years for such draft pick to bloom

Or wait 4 years for the same player to bust. That's why you take the sure thing

[BannersOnly]

Ainge has done done ton of moves the last 8 years since our title.........and yet here we are still lacking a STUD to do the heavy lifting even though he has built a roster full of vets that have a low ceiling and will be needing bigger contracts soon. He's drafted like sh*t and the best homegrown player on the roster right now is Avery fn Bradley LOL. Brown can be a STUD but it will take take a few years. In the meantime we are saddled being the Atlanta Hawks of the past couple years and we might not even be that good. Danny fanboys need to stop being so sensitive.......its the truth.

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Not true at all. Some strategic tanking, as in sitting healthy players even for a bump or bruise, or putting in some suspect lineups would have gone a long way. You don't need to surrender all your assets to the bare bone and become Philly. Just don't waste time playing people like Evan Turner, Amir Johnson, other vets that wont help us long term. Lose games you'd otherwise compete in by giving Smart and other young players ton of minutes. Even if we jumped a few more draft spots up in some drafts it could have been a game changer

You also run the high probability that you'll never land an impact free agent for the sake of jumping a few draft spots.

We run the high probability of never landing an impact free agent anyways. Consider me not enthused about landing a 30 year old who made his career headlining a treadmilling team in the Eastern conference. I'd much prefer landing a 19-20 year old special talent who has 0 NBA miles on his legs and a clean slate to build special legacy in Boston for himself. But I know I know, I'm the impatient one for being ok waiting 4 years for such draft pick to bloom

That's swell until you're really doing that.

That's what it's like now being a Sixers fan.

I don't know about you, but I'll take our current team and predicament over Phillys any day of the week.

Give me every offseason coming second on Top 3 player in the league's list of teams to sign with and sign the second best player on the market every single year, over waiting for Joel Embiid to take off his knee brace...