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Post#401 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:48 pm

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How cool would it be to see Tacko throw out the first pitch!
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Post#402 » by zoyathedestroya » Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:37 pm

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How cool would it be to see Tacko throw out the first pitch!

Wrong sport. They watched Liverpool vs. Sevilla preseason game at Fenway.
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Post#403 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:38 pm

He quotes KRS-One and now he's singing Whodini hooks. Guys.....are we sure that Grant isn't really 45 years old?? That would explain his maturity. Lol

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Post#404 » by cloverleaf » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:44 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
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How cool would it be to see Tacko throw out the first pitch!

Wrong sport. They watched Liverpool vs. Sevilla preseason game at Fenway.


I'd still like to see Tacko throw out the first pitch at Fenway (on a baseball night).
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Post#405 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:55 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
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How cool would it be to see Tacko throw out the first pitch!

Wrong sport. They watched Liverpool vs. Sevilla preseason game at Fenway.


I'd still like to see Tacko throw out the first pitch at Fenway (on a baseball night).

I knew what you meant. :D I'd like it to be on a Tuesday.
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Post#406 » by dred926 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:02 am

people always look for dramond and saying his arms are a freak..

chuck hayes is smaller than Williams and PJ tucker is a midget ...

Williams will be better than those 2 if he pans out :)
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Post#407 » by Kids Are Alright » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:22 pm

He looked like one Ryan Gomes to me, good player, ok 3, a tad slow and short at the 4..
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Post#408 » by sam_I_am » Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:44 pm

Grant Williams is getting a lot of love from media and fans. It’s easy to see why. He is an excellent and smart player with a great personality. However, are we overrating him? He does seem to be low down on pecking order. Last night entering game in second half. For all the great things he does, his height seems to be a problem. I think his impact may be less than I hoped for when he was drafted. So far he looks like a solid late first round pick and less like the steal he was hyped to be who belonged in top 15.
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Post#409 » by GuyClinch » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:09 am

Grant Williams is in the Sully/BBD mode - a guy with the talent for a long productive NBA career - even if he never becomes an all-star. Unlike Danny other undersized PF - this guy has his head on straight.. On the downside he is much shorter then Sullinger and smaller then BBD who was tiny for a Center..and only okay for PF.
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Post#410 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:56 am

GuyClinch wrote:Grant Williams is in the Sully/BBD mode - a guy with the talent for a long productive NBA career - even if he never becomes an all-star. Unlike Danny other undersized PF - this guy has his head on straight.. On the downside he is much shorter then Sullinger and smaller then BBD who was tiny for a Center..and only okay for PF.


BBD was a very credible post defender despite his height, due to his great strength, in an era when post defense still seemed significant. Brandon Bass was a deadeye midrange shooter in an era when midrange shooting was still admired. Other short PFs have been hyperactive enough to be plus rebounders. But we haven't yet identified that thing that Grant Williams is downright superior at, and until we do, he won't be a major player.
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Post#411 » by ParticleMan » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:24 am

a lot will depend on Gwill's ability to hit 3's. if he has an upper-30's 3 ball, he can be a very effective offensive player at the 3/4 swing spot. think a more efficient but shorter marcus morris. his height will leave him at a disadvantage in certain matchups, but in many of those situations he could abuse them on the offensive end if he has a good 3pt shot.
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Post#412 » by cloverleaf » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:36 am

Kids Are Alright wrote:He looked like one Ryan Gomes to me, good player, ok 3, a tad slow and short at the 4..


Just so long as you don't call him a Luke Harangody!

Gomes of course a decent starter on very bad teams for a half-dozen years, which still made him a pretty good #50 pick.
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Post#413 » by BillessuR6 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:52 am

Loved the pick, was one of my draft binkies. I haven`t seen any of preseason games but based just on the boxscore I expected a bit more from him.

I think he will be a solid role player even as a rookie...he will have to hit his 3`s, though.
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Post#414 » by OldCeltics » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:02 pm

Edwards and Grant are the two long term border line stars in future.
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Post#415 » by sam_I_am » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:19 pm

OldCeltics wrote:Edwards and Grant are the two long term border line stars in future.


Edwards barring injury is going to be a Lou Williams/Jamal Crawford like perennial Sixth Man of Year candidate. I’m not sure if Grant Williams can rise above the coach on the floor glue guy who gets spot minutes type. I do think he can be that for 10 years because regardless of his stats, he seems to lift up the play of his teammates when he is out there. I think the brain and heart are there as well as the strength and skill....it’s just his height and length might not be enough to excel at NBA level power forward like Draymond or Milsap were able to do. Here’s hoping he beats the odds.
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Post#416 » by crimsonandblue » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:44 pm

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OldCeltics wrote:Edwards and Grant are the two long term border line stars in future.


Edwards barring injury is going to be a Lou Williams/Jamal Crawford like perennial Sixth Man of Year candidate. I’m not sure if Grant Williams can rise above the coach on the floor glue guy who gets spot minutes type. I do think he can be that for 10 years because regardless of his stats, he seems to lift up the play of his teammates when he is out there. I think the brain and heart are there as well as the strength and skill....it’s just his height and length might not be enough to excel at NBA level power forward like Draymond or Milsap were able to do. Here’s hoping he beats the odds.


Well if you expect anyone drafted outside the lottery to become a star, you're going to be disappointed 95% of the time. In order for Williams to be considered a hit, he needs to develop into a 25mpg type of player, and he is 100% capable of doing that. Anything more than that for a pick in the 20s is above expectations.
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Post#417 » by sam_I_am » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:57 pm

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OldCeltics wrote:Edwards and Grant are the two long term border line stars in future.


Edwards barring injury is going to be a Lou Williams/Jamal Crawford like perennial Sixth Man of Year candidate. I’m not sure if Grant Williams can rise above the coach on the floor glue guy who gets spot minutes type. I do think he can be that for 10 years because regardless of his stats, he seems to lift up the play of his teammates when he is out there. I think the brain and heart are there as well as the strength and skill....it’s just his height and length might not be enough to excel at NBA level power forward like Draymond or Milsap were able to do. Here’s hoping he beats the odds.


Well if you expect anyone drafted outside the lottery to become a star, you're going to be disappointed 95% of the time. In order for Williams to be considered a hit, he needs to develop into a 25mpg type of player, and he is 100% capable of doing that. Anything more than that for a pick in the 20s is above expectations.


I knew nothing about him prior to draft but there were those who rated him in 12-15 range. The buzz all summer is that he was a steal at 20 but this preseason he has looked like a solid “in the 20s” pick to me with a phenomenal attitude. Nothing wrong with that but to think he could start on this team or replace Al as a stretch 4 as many here have buzzed....probably not likely. More realistically, he will take over the role that Semi has had past 2 years.
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Post#418 » by OldCeltics » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:02 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
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Edwards barring injury is going to be a Lou Williams/Jamal Crawford like perennial Sixth Man of Year candidate. I’m not sure if Grant Williams can rise above the coach on the floor glue guy who gets spot minutes type. I do think he can be that for 10 years because regardless of his stats, he seems to lift up the play of his teammates when he is out there. I think the brain and heart are there as well as the strength and skill....it’s just his height and length might not be enough to excel at NBA level power forward like Draymond or Milsap were able to do. Here’s hoping he beats the odds.


Well if you expect anyone drafted outside the lottery to become a star, you're going to be disappointed 95% of the time. In order for Williams to be considered a hit, he needs to develop into a 25mpg type of player, and he is 100% capable of doing that. Anything more than that for a pick in the 20s is above expectations.


I knew nothing about him prior to draft but there were those who rated him in 12-15 range. The buzz all summer is that he was a steal at 20 but this preseason he has looked like a solid “in the 20s” pick to me with a phenomenal attitude. Nothing wrong with that but to think he could start on this team or replace Al as a stretch 4 as many here have buzzed....probably not likely. More realistically, he will take over the role that Semi has had past 2 years.


He has star potential in the non flashy mold of Horford.

Grant does everything quietly so you don't notice him. At end of game you look at the stat sheet, he's got 15pts/8rbd/1blk/1stl. If given 25 minutes, he can sustain those numbers.
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Post#419 » by sam_I_am » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:21 pm

OldCeltics wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:
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Well if you expect anyone drafted outside the lottery to become a star, you're going to be disappointed 95% of the time. In order for Williams to be considered a hit, he needs to develop into a 25mpg type of player, and he is 100% capable of doing that. Anything more than that for a pick in the 20s is above expectations.


I knew nothing about him prior to draft but there were those who rated him in 12-15 range. The buzz all summer is that he was a steal at 20 but this preseason he has looked like a solid “in the 20s” pick to me with a phenomenal attitude. Nothing wrong with that but to think he could start on this team or replace Al as a stretch 4 as many here have buzzed....probably not likely. More realistically, he will take over the role that Semi has had past 2 years.


He has star potential in the non flashy mold of Horford.

Grant does everything quietly so you don't notice him. At end of game you look at the stat sheet, he's got 15pts/8rbd/1blk/1stl. If given 25 minutes, he can sustain those numbers.


Except it’s been 7/4 2 against lottery teams.....and that is fine but far from Horford numbers. Opening night will be a better indicator.
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Post#420 » by Higgs Boston » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:40 pm

I don't get the hype about him, he is very smart and all but he is a bench player at best, he is undersized PF with average length and average athleticism except strength, so he can't make up his size. In the SL it already was obvious even against smaller players, and especially against memphis (clarke)
I would have tried to make a trade up and get a player with higher upside, like starter potential.

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