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Re: Official Celtics 2021 Post/Off-Season Thread 

Post#401 » by Edug27 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:55 am

We need a PG who can feed RWilliams on that pick and lob like Trae and Capela.
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Post#403 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:46 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/

If Portland would do it then sign me up Tatum, Brown and Lillard would be fantastic.

Top 6 would be Lillard, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Fournier and Thompson. You can fill in the rest with young players and vet min
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Post#404 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:24 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/

If Portland would do it then sign me up Tatum, Brown and Lillard would be fantastic.

Top 6 would be Lillard, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Fournier and Thompson. You can fill in the rest with young players and vet min


Zero chance we’d be able to get him without Jaylen, I’d say. I can already see Olshey when introducing Jaylen and company, “we didn’t just have to replace Dame as a player, but also as a person, and Jaylen is one of the finest young men in the league.”
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Post#405 » by JediMasterRevan » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:36 pm

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JediMasterRevan wrote:https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/

If Portland would do it then sign me up Tatum, Brown and Lillard would be fantastic.

Top 6 would be Lillard, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Fournier and Thompson. You can fill in the rest with young players and vet min


Zero chance we’d be able to get him without Jaylen, I’d say. I can already see Olshey when introducing Jaylen and company, “we didn’t just have to replace Dame as a player, but also as a person, and Jaylen is one of the finest young men in the league.”



If Dame demands out then the price plummets.

But it, imo, would take Dame demanding a trade to the Celtics or he sits.
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Post#406 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:52 pm

Lillard is the target du jour. He's too small, too old and makes too much money for too long. Stevens needs to find a third star (1) who isn't quite a star now but who will be, and (2) is on the same timeline as the J's. Preferably that player is a big man, not a guard.
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Post#407 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:28 pm

On paper it might seem like a great team with Dame, Brown and Tatum. And it may be. But I see some major obstacles. One ball and 3 highly need the ball type of players. Staggering the rotation would help some I guess. Won't say I wouldn't do it, But definitely not as high on that trade as others.
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Post#408 » by aporel18 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:38 pm

JediMasterRevan wrote:https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/


What a terrible trade.

Lillard makes too much money and plays too much ISO ball.

Hopefully next Celtics coach has a better plan than isoing to death to win a title in the next 5 years.

I'd rather keep Kemba until the trade deadline and move Smart/TT to make room in the draft/free agency than giving 5 first round picks for a very good player who hasn't won anything with his heroics.

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Post#409 » by La Flame » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:04 pm

aporel18 wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/


What a terrible trade.

Lillard makes too much money and plays too much ISO ball.

Hopefully next Celtics coach has a better plan than isoing to death to win a title in the next 5 years.

I'd rather keep Kemba until the trade deadline and move Smart/TT to make room in the draft/free agency than giving 5 first round picks for a very good player who hasn't won anything with his heroics.

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Terrible trade? That is a highway robbery, we would be a finals team for sure. Dame plays too much ISO ball because he doesn't have Jaylen and Jayson on his team, oh and maybe because that's the most effective play the sorry team can muster up?
Dame would take this team on another level and unlock an extra tier in our offense. But he does make a lot of money and leaves us very small. While almost 31, he's in his prime and his game should age smooth with his elite shooting and playmaking ability.
I don't think he's the perfect trade target, but to call this a "terrible trade" lol you do it every time if you can keep the Jays together.
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Post#410 » by aporel18 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:22 pm

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aporel18 wrote:
JediMasterRevan wrote:https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/


What a terrible trade.

Lillard makes too much money and plays too much ISO ball.

Hopefully next Celtics coach has a better plan than isoing to death to win a title in the next 5 years.

I'd rather keep Kemba until the trade deadline and move Smart/TT to make room in the draft/free agency than giving 5 first round picks for a very good player who hasn't won anything with his heroics.

Pass.


Terrible trade? That is a highway robbery, we would be a finals team for sure. Dame plays too much ISO ball because he doesn't have Jaylen and Jayson on his team, oh and maybe because that's the most effective play the sorry team can muster up?
Dame would take this team on another level and unlock an extra tier in our offense. But he does make a lot of money and leaves us very small. While almost 31, he's in his prime and his game should age smooth with his elite shooting and playmaking ability.
I don't think he's the perfect trade target, but to call this a "terrible trade" lol you do it every time if you can keep the Jays together.


no, you don't trade the farm for an over 30 guard, and you don't mortgage 5 years of first round picks for a very good player like Dame, who will be over 35 when you're paying your last unprotected first round pick. His game may age well, or, well, you know the Celtics track record with All-Star guards.

Terrible trade indeed. On paper, great, but you need your KG to complement Jayson (PP) and Jaylen (Ray), not another 20+ FGA guard, as good as he is.
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Post#411 » by La Flame » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:44 pm

aporel18 wrote:
La Flame wrote:
aporel18 wrote:
What a terrible trade.

Lillard makes too much money and plays too much ISO ball.

Hopefully next Celtics coach has a better plan than isoing to death to win a title in the next 5 years.

I'd rather keep Kemba until the trade deadline and move Smart/TT to make room in the draft/free agency than giving 5 first round picks for a very good player who hasn't won anything with his heroics.

Pass.


Terrible trade? That is a highway robbery, we would be a finals team for sure. Dame plays too much ISO ball because he doesn't have Jaylen and Jayson on his team, oh and maybe because that's the most effective play the sorry team can muster up?
Dame would take this team on another level and unlock an extra tier in our offense. But he does make a lot of money and leaves us very small. While almost 31, he's in his prime and his game should age smooth with his elite shooting and playmaking ability.
I don't think he's the perfect trade target, but to call this a "terrible trade" lol you do it every time if you can keep the Jays together.


no, you don't trade the farm for an over 30 guard, and you don't mortgage 5 years of first round picks for a very good player like Dame, who will be over 35 when you're paying your last unprotected first round pick. His game may age well, or, well, you know the Celtics track record with All-Star guards.

Terrible trade indeed. On paper, great, but you need your KG to complement Jayson (PP) and Jaylen (Ray), not another 20+ FGA guard, as good as he is.


If it lands you a title, 5 years of picks don't matter much.
I agree a star 2 way big would be ideal fit for us, and a solid point guard is always easier to find in late drafts etc. So yeah, not an ideal trade target as I said, but if we can realistically get him without giving up Brown (we can't), you do the trade 100%
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Post#412 » by ParticleMan » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:36 pm

lol that trade is like some green wet dream. no way we land dame without giving up at least jaylen and a bunch more.

the coby white trade is a bit more realistic:
https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/13/nba-rumors-chicago-bulls-boston-celtics-trade-kemba-walker/
white has a lot of growing up to do but he's a talented player, and his timeline fits the jays. and he's not a midget. i doubt the bulls want to use their cap space on kemba tho.
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Post#413 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:55 pm

That proposed Bulls trade is highway robbery by the Celtics.
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Post#414 » by La Flame » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:00 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:That proposed Bulls trade is highway robbery by the Celtics.


Totally. But if we add a 1st and a 2nd, they might do it imo. Can Coby become really good?
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Post#415 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:01 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:That proposed Bulls trade is highway robbery by the Celtics.


Maybe, but not much different from what Chicago gave up for Vucevic..
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Post#416 » by Andrew McCeltic » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:04 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Lillard is the target du jour. He's too small, too old and makes too much money for too long. Stevens needs to find a third star (1) who isn't quite a star now but who will be, and (2) is on the same timeline as the J's. Preferably that player is a big man, not a guard.


Yup. Let the Knicks get him, they learn f*cking *nothing*. Whenever they get young and cheap and headed in the right direction they blow their wad on players who are old or don’t make them a contender.
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Post#417 » by bfchs123 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:15 pm

Lillard feels like the wrong star to put all the chips in. Could easily see us in the same place we are with Kemba now in 2 years.

When we signed Kemba he was coming off a 25+ PPG season (and was younger than Lillard now). I'd be very wary of any undersigned, aging PG right now. With one injury, could see Lillard in the same spot as Kemba is now in a few years @ $50M per year. It would end any hope of the Jays winning a title given the size of that contract
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Post#418 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:29 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:That proposed Bulls trade is highway robbery by the Celtics.

I like it!
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Post#419 » by djFan71 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:16 pm

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Curmudgeon wrote:Lillard is the target du jour. He's too small, too old and makes too much money for too long. Stevens needs to find a third star (1) who isn't quite a star now but who will be, and (2) is on the same timeline as the J's. Preferably that player is a big man, not a guard.


Yup. Let the Knicks get him, they learn f*cking *nothing*. Whenever they get young and cheap and headed in the right direction they blow their wad on players who are old or don’t make them a contender.

I really thought they were gonna do that with Kemba, but some other team made that mistake instead...
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