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Re: NBA Playoffs, Rnd 1: Nets @ Celtics – 3:30pm ET, Sun, April 17, 2022 

Post#401 » by celticfan42487 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:45 am

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Yeah Drummond and Claxton are going to clog the paint. Durant himself is one of the better shot blocking Centers when it's the playoffs and he needs to be on a team. It's going to be tough to finish in there against a set defense.

I do think ironically a lot of our offense will be decided by Tatum mid range shots when he's not passing it or we're running a set that doesn't start with Tatum.

And I'm no coach so I don't know if they will but to me whether it's Brown or Durant running a pick and roll with Smart as the pick setter having Irving on him seems legit.

Or anyone who has Irving on him.

Irving doesn't want to play real defense, and even if they try to hide him on Theis that's a pick and roll straight into an alley oop to Theis at the rim. Not that Theis can jump much higher than Irving but Irving isn't gonna challenge that at all lol.


Drummond is a drop big, Tatum will light them up anytime he’s in. He’s a poor rim defender as well. Claxton is much more versatile defensively, but you can overpower him at the rim.

I don’t expect much Tatum from midrange, he’s almost entirely cut it out of his game. When the Nets play drop coverage, it’s bombs away from three for Tatum and Jaylen. If they go switch heavy, Tatum will live at the rim, and if they go blitz heavy/zone, you’ll see a lot of ball movement for open threes or good looks at the rim, and Jaylen would do serious damage.

Celtics should be able to get whatever they want offensively, as long as everyone makes quick decisions. Nets have made it clear that obviously slowing down Tatum is their first and second priority, but they aren’t the type of defense who can dictate much.

Do people not know nets personnel. Who in their rotation out of kd and Kylie is a rotation player here? Seth Curry?


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I know them but disagree strongly that Seth Curry is the only rotational player.

Dragic has been key for a long time for the Heat and like Irving he'll have the bubble effect of having completely fresh legs which is a huge advantage. Neither was actually injured but this is probably the best playoffs either will have for the rest of their career unless they find another way to skip 90% of the regular season and just get into game shape come playoffs.

Drummond as much as people **** on is a good starting Center in this league. He puts up huge stats and has a double double in just under 23 minutes a game go to with 1.5 aspg 1 stl 1 block. Again not even on starting minutes he's putting up monster numbers he's just not an all star like the Pistons expected him to be as their franchise player but in a role as a starting Center I'd love to have him as an option on our team. If we could rotate him with Rob we'd never lose the rebounding battle and teams would struggle strongly to get even 1 free layup per game.

I do question how good Claxton and Brown are just because they have the advantage of playing with Irving and Durant so it's hard to say what they'd do without ultra ISO heavy studs.

But yeah at least Dragic, Curry, and Drummond are very good rotaitonal players two of them good starters. Brown and Claxton could be but might just be high energy atheltic guys who are just great in their current roles for the Nets team.

Pre trade deadline I'd agree they had very little depth. Hell their best pieces after the big 2 are all players they got either for Harden or right after that trade lol.

But this team is hardly struggling for talent around Irving and Durant.
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Post#402 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:48 am

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Yeah Drummond and Claxton are going to clog the paint. Durant himself is one of the better shot blocking Centers when it's the playoffs and he needs to be on a team. It's going to be tough to finish in there against a set defense.

I do think ironically a lot of our offense will be decided by Tatum mid range shots when he's not passing it or we're running a set that doesn't start with Tatum.

And I'm no coach so I don't know if they will but to me whether it's Brown or Durant running a pick and roll with Smart as the pick setter having Irving on him seems legit.

Or anyone who has Irving on him.

Irving doesn't want to play real defense, and even if they try to hide him on Theis that's a pick and roll straight into an alley oop to Theis at the rim. Not that Theis can jump much higher than Irving but Irving isn't gonna challenge that at all lol.


Drummond is a drop big, Tatum will light them up anytime he’s in. He’s a poor rim defender as well. Claxton is much more versatile defensively, but you can overpower him at the rim.

I don’t expect much Tatum from midrange, he’s almost entirely cut it out of his game. When the Nets play drop coverage, it’s bombs away from three for Tatum and Jaylen. If they go switch heavy, Tatum will live at the rim, and if they go blitz heavy/zone, you’ll see a lot of ball movement for open threes or good looks at the rim, and Jaylen would do serious damage.

Celtics should be able to get whatever they want offensively, as long as everyone makes quick decisions. Nets have made it clear that obviously slowing down Tatum is their first and second priority, but they aren’t the type of defense who can dictate much.

Do people not know nets personnel. Who in their rotation out of kd and Kylie is a rotation player here? Seth Curry?


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Bruce Brown would have a good chance of making the Celtics' rotation, given time to gell.

And while we'd prefer Theis over Drummond, the opposite might be true on other teams.
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Re: NBA Playoffs, Rnd 1: Nets @ Celtics – 3:30pm ET, Sun, April 17, 2022 

Post#403 » by Fierce1 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:50 am

jfs1000d wrote:Sigh. Can people look at metrics? Theis Horford is an excellent defensive pairing.

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This series will put the metrics to the test.

Just be man enough to admit that the metrics was wrong if the Celts end up losing the series.

According to some here, the stats and your metrics say the Celtics should win this series.

We'll know for sure in a couple of weeks.
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Post#404 » by SLCceltic » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:46 am

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SLCceltic wrote:So no Simmons before game 4 ! if he even plays at all

this is significant. the one thing he can do at an elite level is defend ...and you don't really need to practice alot or ramp up to play 15-20 mins a game

I can’t take it. Y’all afraid of ghosts. Zero chance he is effective defensively in 20 minutes. Dude hasn’t played in a year.


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15-20 solid minutes of D from Simmons and no Rob could turn a closer game/series in their favor ...Kyrie and KD will have to be fantastic all series

like I said no Simmons until game 4 at the earliest, if at all, so that is one ghost we won't have to exercise at least early on

I also believe Kyrie's play will be up and down with flashes but certainly not fantastic...

we should mostly control the series with ball movement and superb D taking them down within 6

...drummond erasing superb D with second chances vs Al theis and grant does worry me. Mills and Dragic have both done some things on some pretty big stages

nonetheless this is our time, hopefully big Rob can join in this series and be fully charged to tear Bucks apart
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Re: NBA Playoffs, Rnd 1: Nets @ Celtics – 3:30pm ET, Sun, April 17, 2022 

Post#405 » by steefP2 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:48 am

Just fwiw kyrie and KD both career lows this season in rim attempts per 75 possessions. kyrie 3.6 rim attempts per 75 and KD 2.8 rim attempts per 75. Both super low. It's mostly their bigs and bruce brown so theis and Horford should be adequate there.

For context kyrie and KD COMBINE to have the same rim attempts as Tatum by himself. These guys are pull up shooters.
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Post#406 » by Triple7 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:36 am

Marvel wrote:Nets getting Simmons back will literally destroy them. So yeah we should be hoping he comes back lol.


I have to agree. Plus we have an option of “hack a ben” if needed. That would certainly disrupt their offense, and playing literally 4 v 5 at that.
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Post#407 » by BillessuR6 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:06 am

I did not want to play the Nets in the first round. But we are a great team and team basketball wins over iso basketball, especially where there is not that much difference in individual talent.

Durant, IMO, is the best scorer in the game but Tatum isn`t that far behind. We are not just a great team, we have top individual talent as well, that is why we should win this series!

I am not worried about Simmons. I loved when we played Philly and they were 4 on 5 with him on offense, they were more dangerous with TJ McConnell playing the point. And now he hasn`t played in a year?!?

We have continuity, we have chemistry, great defensive and offensive system, we have individual talent...if we play like majority of last 3 months we should win in 6 games at most.
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Post#408 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:58 am

Ya know -- Bruce Brown's comment wasn't crazy. Irving and Durant are very dangerous attacking the hoop. But the Nets have confessed to being scared of Rob for a while. It's too bad he keeps getting hurt for the playoffs against him.
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Post#409 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:59 am

One also has to wonder how long it will take Theis to get to 6 fouls.
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Post#410 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:03 am

I hope the guys are doing their best to totally take covid protocols out of the equation. How often do they test now if you're vaccinated?
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Post#412 » by daveisceltics » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:35 am

C's in 5 or 6
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Post#413 » by Gomes3PC » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:59 am

Nets best lineup against us is likely to have Durant at C. I don't think they will trust Claxton and Drummond just offers no resistance at the rim defensively.

What will be interesting to me is if Theis can practically stay on the floor next to Horford, or will Durant just slice us up with that pairing and we will need to flip to a smaller lineup with Grant or more likely Tatum at the 4 guarding Durant.

Personally, the most-used lineup I want to see in this series is White-Smart-Brown-Tatum-Horford. It's our best five and our most switchable.
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Post#414 » by Setshot33 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:03 am

Ben Simmons.

Notorious for being a bad shooter
Hasn't played competitive basketball in over a year
Has a bad back

And some of you expect him to be dropped into a Playoff game and be effective? Really?
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Post#415 » by sam_I_am » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:05 pm

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jfs1000d wrote:
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Drummond is a drop big, Tatum will light them up anytime he’s in. He’s a poor rim defender as well. Claxton is much more versatile defensively, but you can overpower him at the rim.

I don’t expect much Tatum from midrange, he’s almost entirely cut it out of his game. When the Nets play drop coverage, it’s bombs away from three for Tatum and Jaylen. If they go switch heavy, Tatum will live at the rim, and if they go blitz heavy/zone, you’ll see a lot of ball movement for open threes or good looks at the rim, and Jaylen would do serious damage.

Celtics should be able to get whatever they want offensively, as long as everyone makes quick decisions. Nets have made it clear that obviously slowing down Tatum is their first and second priority, but they aren’t the type of defense who can dictate much.

Do people not know nets personnel. Who in their rotation out of kd and Kylie is a rotation player here? Seth Curry?


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Bruce Brown would have a good chance of making the Celtics' rotation, given time to gell.

And while we'd prefer Theis over Drummond, the opposite might be true on other teams.


Gobert gets skewered every year in playoffs when forced to switch. The Celtics will roast Drummond. Will he be able to keep their offense going enough to offset that with offensive rebounds and creating space for the big 2? The Nets have more games scoring in 120s and 130s than the Celtics but less so in final 2 months of season. Can they win by out scoring us? Is their offense ‘defense proof’ because of their elite 1-2 punch?
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Post#416 » by jordb2k7 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:11 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
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Jaqua92 wrote:Ouch. No no no.

Celtic insider/media writing an article stating how the Nets can't beat the Celtics, and that the only way they do is if the Celtics don't play their best?

Why? Why release an article like this?

This is stupid.

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I dont think there is anything wrong with the article. It said that the nets can’t beat the celtics if they play right, and lose if they revert back to hero ball, or holding the ball too long and not moving. I think it’s spot on, and just reminding the players to be conscious of how they might lose this series.
Oh it's totally right...but it's not that different than what Bruce Brown did... "This is why we will be advantageous."

This is lockerroom material for the Nets. I don't want to give KD any fuel. I don't think they can beat us. Unless KD averages 38/7/10 on 66%, and I don't want the media to give him further incentive to play out of his mind.



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:lol: :lol: An article written by Bulpett is locker room material? Might as well start posting message board posts in the locker rooms. This is a non factor the stuff that stands out is when players say stuff publicly. I don’t really buy into that whole narrative anyway. Were Horford and Theis not going to defend until Bruce Brown said that? Nope. Do they have some sort of other level that this unlocked? No way, these guys are gamers and were going to play their hardest regardless of the trash talk.
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Post#417 » by MagicBagley18 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:28 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:Ouch. No no no.

Celtic insider/media writing an article stating how the Nets can't beat the Celtics, and that the only way they do is if the Celtics don't play their best?

Why? Why release an article like this?

This is stupid.

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I dont think there is anything wrong with the article. It said that the nets can’t beat the celtics if they play right, and lose if they revert back to hero ball, or holding the ball too long and not moving. I think it’s spot on, and just reminding the players to be conscious of how they might lose this series.
Oh it's totally right...but it's not that different than what Bruce Brown did... "This is why we will be advantageous."

This is lockerroom material for the Nets. I don't want to give KD any fuel. I don't think they can beat us. Unless KD averages 38/7/10 on 66%, and I don't want the media to give him further incentive to play out of his mind.



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Buddy he’s a former beat writer for the Celtics media. Now he writes for a hoop site most people scroll right by- it’s not even close to a player on the other team calling out your team or let alone lockeroom material
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Post#418 » by Green89 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:34 pm

People seem to forget we've had good defensive teams without Rob in the past. We made the 2020 ECF without Rob as a starter.
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Post#419 » by sam_I_am » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:52 pm

The Nets are in year 3 of Durant/Kyrie experiment. They have won just 1 playoff series beating a 36-36 Celtic team. They have literally accomplished nothing. It has truly been a dumpster fire. Let’s look at other super teams: Lebron/Davis - title year 1. KG/Ray/Pierce - 1 title, 2 finals, 3 ECF in first 3 years. Lebron/Wade/Bosh - 2 titles, 4 finals, 4 ECF in 4 years. Curry/Klay/Green/Durant - 2 titles, 3 finals, 3 WCF in 3 years.

The Nets in year 3 are a 7 seed yet we talk about them as if they are the 1996 Bulls or 2017 Warriors. They have accomplished nothing other than creating headlines for ESPN. They deserve no special respect until they earn it. The Celtics were right to only worry about themselves with regard to end of season games. Durant and Kyrie are special players and this series will be fiercely contested by them. Even the 2008 Hawks took the Celtics to game 7 so it’s important the Celtics pay attention to detail, give maximum effort and execute their offense to the best of their abilities.
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Post#420 » by playa-hater » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:50 pm

Boston has a Good defensive team without Rob, yes, But we have a great one with Rob.

Meanwhile these nights are dragging lately. Boston is my climax, lets GO!!!
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