Poll: would you trade JB for KD?

[BK_2020]

Hypothetically, If we did trade JB for KD, what's the plan in a few years when he's gone? Tatum will be right smack dab in the middle of his prime and he'll need a runningmate.

Yam - Begarin - Tatum - Hauser - Rob
Matt Ryan - Brodric Thomas - JD Davison - Trevion Williams

[watsonthedragon]

Hypothetically, If we did trade JB for KD, what's the plan in a few years when he's gone? Tatum will be right smack dab in the middle of his prime and he'll need a runningmate.

I just don't understand how you can watch today's NBA and be thinking about a few years down the road. So much changes every year with the ridiculous amount of player movement. That's why the argument of "2 years of KD vs 10 of JB" is so outrageous to me. JB could just as well leave in a couple years due to any number of reasons.

For this iteration of this team, the current overall goal should be to win a championship in 2023, then you can talk 2024 and beyond. We're in the win-now phase. If you think JB gives us a better chance this year due to KD's injury history or upsetting our chemistry, that's totally valid. If you're concerned about 4 years down the road then I think you're wasting your energy because we have no idea what the Celtics and the league will look like then.

Imagine a scenario where Luka pairs up with another superstar and they run through the league for years GSW style, coinciding with JT and JB primes, and we never win a Finals. Would you be thinking "at least we got to keep the homegrown talent together" or "I wish we did more in those years after our first Finals to win THEN"? And yes, I understand this is a crazy hypothetical, but I'm just trying to paint a picture of how this is a win-now league. There's just way too many variables.

I have seen a few people basically suggest that they would take a long run of JT and JB NEVER winning a Finals but being competitive over a single Championship where we "sold out" for KD. This is crazy to me but I can't argue against it if that's how you feel. However, if you're sole reason for not swapping JB for KD is our competitiveness in 4-5 years, then I can't make any other conclusion other than that you're naïve and don't understand how the league works.

[MagicBagley18]

Hypothetically, If we did trade JB for KD, what's the plan in a few years when he's gone? Tatum will be right smack dab in the middle of his prime and he'll need a runningmate.

I just don't understand how you can watch today's NBA and be thinking about a few years down the road. So much changes every year with the ridiculous amount of player movement. That's why the argument of "2 years of KD vs 10 of JB" is so outrageous to me. JB could just as well leave in a couple years due to any number of reasons.

For this iteration of this team, the current overall goal should be to win a championship in 2023, then you can talk 2024 and beyond. We're in the win-now phase. If you think JB gives us a better chance this year due to KD's injury history or upsetting our chemistry, that's totally valid. If you're concerned about 4 years down the road then I think you're wasting your energy because we have no idea what the Celtics and the league will look like then.

Imagine a scenario where Luka pairs up with another superstar and they run through the league for years GSW style, coinciding with JT and JB primes, and we never win a Finals. Would you be thinking "at least we got to keep the homegrown talent together" or "I wish we did more in those years after our first Finals to win THEN"? And yes, I understand this is a crazy hypothetical, but I'm just trying to paint a picture of how this is a win-now league. There's just way too many variables.

I have seen a few people basically suggest that they would take a long run of JT and JB NEVER winning a Finals but being competitive over a single Championship where we "sold out" for KD. This is crazy to me but I can't argue against it if that's how you feel. However, if you're sole reason for not swapping JB for KD is our competitiveness in 4-5 years, then I can't make any other conclusion other than that you're naïve and don't understand how the league works.

Solid post

[Tyakack]

Hypothetically, If we did trade JB for KD, what's the plan in a few years when he's gone? Tatum will be right smack dab in the middle of his prime and he'll need a runningmate.

I just don't understand how you can watch today's NBA and be thinking about a few years down the road. So much changes every year with the ridiculous amount of player movement. That's why the argument of "2 years of KD vs 10 of JB" is so outrageous to me. JB could just as well leave in a couple years due to any number of reasons.

For this iteration of this team, the current overall goal should be to win a championship in 2023, then you can talk 2024 and beyond. We're in the win-now phase. If you think JB gives us a better chance this year due to KD's injury history or upsetting our chemistry, that's totally valid. If you're concerned about 4 years down the road then I think you're wasting your energy because we have no idea what the Celtics and the league will look like then.

Imagine a scenario where Luka pairs up with another superstar and they run through the league for years GSW style, coinciding with JT and JB primes, and we never win a Finals. Would you be thinking "at least we got to keep the homegrown talent together" or "I wish we did more in those years after our first Finals to win THEN"? And yes, I understand this is a crazy hypothetical, but I'm just trying to paint a picture of how this is a win-now league. There's just way too many variables.

I have seen a few people basically suggest that they would take a long run of JT and JB NEVER winning a Finals but being competitive over a single Championship where we "sold out" for KD. This is crazy to me but I can't argue against it if that's how you feel. However, if you're sole reason for not swapping JB for KD is our competitiveness in 4-5 years, then I can't make any other conclusion other than that you're naïve and don't understand how the league works.

[Fencer reregistered]

Short Answer:
No.

Long Answer:
Why???

The "Why" is easy. KD is a better player, and he's been quickly productive and effective on every team he's joined in recent years (two NBA teams plus Team USA).

I still wouldn't do a realistic trade. The current whole seems like it's more than the sum of its parts, and seems to have a good chance of continuing to be.

And by the way, I think ownership will spend as much money as it takes to support the opportunity. The depth of their personal pockets is irrelevant, as they're private equity guys who would feel no sense of disappointment if they had to bring in outside funding for cash flow reasons of some kind.

[OBisHalJordan]

I wanted to see where people stand on this potential trade so I made a poll: Should Boston trade Brown for Durant?

Please share your reasoning below if you feel so inclined.

[OBisHalJordan]

Hypothetically, If we did trade JB for KD, what's the plan in a few years when he's gone? Tatum will be right smack dab in the middle of his prime and he'll need a runningmate.

I just don't understand how you can watch today's NBA and be thinking about a few years down the road. So much changes every year with the ridiculous amount of player movement. That's why the argument of "2 years of KD vs 10 of JB" is so outrageous to me. JB could just as well leave in a couple years due to any number of reasons.

For this iteration of this team, the current overall goal should be to win a championship in 2023, then you can talk 2024 and beyond. We're in the win-now phase. If you think JB gives us a better chance this year due to KD's injury history or upsetting our chemistry, that's totally valid. If you're concerned about 4 years down the road then I think you're wasting your energy because we have no idea what the Celtics and the league will look like then.

Imagine a scenario where Luka pairs up with another superstar and they run through the league for years GSW style, coinciding with JT and JB primes, and we never win a Finals. Would you be thinking "at least we got to keep the homegrown talent together" or "I wish we did more in those years after our first Finals to win THEN"? And yes, I understand this is a crazy hypothetical, but I'm just trying to paint a picture of how this is a win-now league. There's just way too many variables.

I have seen a few people basically suggest that they would take a long run of JT and JB NEVER winning a Finals but being competitive over a single Championship where we "sold out" for KD. This is crazy to me but I can't argue against it if that's how you feel. However, if you're sole reason for not swapping JB for KD is our competitiveness in 4-5 years, then I can't make any other conclusion other than that you're naïve and don't understand how the league works.

KD is so unlikable. I'd rather watch JB and JT have several more unsuccessful playoff runs than watch the Celtics win one championship with KD

[azee2890]

One vote for trading Tatum for KD. More similar skill set so the pieces fit a bit better. Tatum has more value so you can likely keep Smart or provide less picks.

Then you have KD as the go to scorer. A tremendous two way player and second option in Jaylen. Brogdon as the main offensive playmaker. Smart as the do it all glue guy. Robert Williams as the switchy rim protector and rim runner. Horford/Grant as the stretch big.

I think it's important to preserve as much of the core nucleus as possible. If we Tatum can be upgraded to KD without giving up any other key players then I think that's a trade you make. Trading Smart, Brown and White etc would totally change the make-up of the team. I'd rather run it back with the current roster (similar to how I felt when people were considering trading Tatum and Brown for Anthony Davis).

[jmr07019]

If you could do the rumored Brown White and a pick it’s a no brainer. Problem is Brooklyn is going to want Brown Smart probably Grant plus picks.

[Tyakack]

If you could do the rumored Brown White and a pick it’s a no brainer. Problem is Brooklyn is going to want Brown Smart probably Grant plus picks.

If the deal happens I think it will be somewhere in the middle. Obviously, you don't start with your best offer. I think we keep smart and give up more picks if the deal gets done.

[24istheLAW]

Count me among those who think these rumors are coming out of Brooklyn. The Nets can't get anyone to put value on the table, so they're trying to stir up a bidder.

[sam_I_am]

Count me among those who think these rumors are coming out of Brooklyn. The Nets can't get anyone to put value on the table, so they're trying to stir up a bidder.

KD is not getting traded. The Nets tried and failed. I don’t doubt hat Brad had a conversation - it’s his job. The Nets are legit contenders with KD. Boston one of top 3 rivals if not #1. This leak is meant to sew dissent.

[31to6]

OP just noting that on the day the "JB + White" offer leaded, this poll stood at 64% 'no', 36% 'yes'.
I would predict that the rumor making it more likely would make sentiment shift towards 'yes', but I can't remember if the poll currently allows re-voting.

[Triple7]

When there is smoke, there is usually a fire. I think Jaylen really wants out, making all the rumors about Jaylen the past month partly true.

[Triple7]

OP just noting that on the day the "JB + White" offer leaded, this poll stood at 64% 'no', 36% 'yes'.
I would predict that the rumor making it more likely would make sentiment shift towards 'yes', but I can't remember if the poll currently allows re-voting.

Just re-voted just now. Moved from no, to yes! Lol

[31to6]

When there is smoke, there is usually a fire. I think Jaylen really wants out, making all the rumors about Jaylen the past month partly true.

imagine if Wiggy on WEEI was really right about something, not even he expects that

[OBisHalJordan]

When there is smoke, there is usually a fire. I think Jaylen really wants out, making all the rumors about Jaylen the past month partly true.

what is all the rumors

[jmr07019]

Hope this doesn’t mess with chemistry too bad. Reminiscent of Ray Allen / Ainge vibes here.

[Ben-N1ce]

People overthinking..zero guarantee Jaylen resigns in a couple years...KD is 100% the better player right now. I don't look 5 years down the line especially in today's player driven NBA.

[bfchs123]

in a vacuum where JB is fully committed to resigning, probably not.

I think this may be a case where we may never have full information on whether or not JB is thinking about testing the waters. If he is, then I'm probably more inclined to do the deal. Wouldn't do a whole lot more than JB, White, and a pick or two though. Any deep picks into the future and swaps is a no go, especially beyond KD's contract

Put full faith in Brad to make the right choice since he has the most information

Tatum/KD/Brogdon/Smart/RWIII is a championship starting 5 and we'd still have Horford, Grant, Danillo, PP, etc. on the bench so plenty of depth.