Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[Bill Lumbergh]

Interesting trade speculation by my favorite hoops analyst. A few interesting ones thrown out there, including Jrue for Gafford and P J Washington. A wilder one was Brown for Morant.

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[jfs1000d]

Read a report saying Spurs won't trade #2 pick.

If that's the case then pivot to a package that results in the Cs getting KD for DWhite.

KD and JB will be perfect for a bridge year and hopefully we'll see 1 season of JT, JB, and KD in 2027.

White, Jrue, and KP out, KD in.

Cs can move KP at trade deadline if Cs can't get a good return for KP now.

That’s too much. Jrue and KP maybe. Can’t add white. We would probably my include Hauser as well.


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[Larry_Russell]

I don't know if either team does it, but there has been plenty of talk about sending Brown home to Atlanta.

Just for arguments sake, this trade is legal-

Boston gets-
Risacher
Okongwu
Mann
Krejci

Atlanta gets-
Brown
Hauser
Tillman

It's legal because you can construct it to be legal as Atlanta has exceptions to take Hauser and Tillman.

Where and what draft picks I don't know.

Anyway, this trade saves Boston 19.7 million next year and is a very good return imo.

Saving 19.7 million in a trade like this would allow Boston to be more selective in a Jrue or KP trade, meaning they could put a little bit of a higher priority on the return, since they wouldn't have to cut as much salary.

I am very high on Risacher, and Krejci is a sneaky good player and contract.

I need Johnson in the deal back.

Brown and #28 to Atlanta for Johnson, Mann, #13 and #22 Saves around 10 million.

Followed by

Jrue to Dallas for Gafford, Marshall, Christie and cash

Kristaps, tillman and #22 for more capsavings.

Celtics inject youth.

White/pritchard
Schierman/christie
Marshall/hauser
Johnson/Horford?
Gafford/kornet

Team loses games until tatum is back but youth get a chance to grow

[Dogen]

Interesting trade speculation by my favorite hoops analyst. A few interesting ones thrown out there, including Jrue for Gafford and P J Washington. A wilder one was Brown for Morant.

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That's nice for the Mavs. They need to move some players, but with Jrue they get a 2-way vet while Kyrie is out. And a pick added in I suppose.

Davis
Flagg/(Lively)
Thompson
Christie
Holiday/(Kyrie)

Marshall
Martin
Dinwiddie
Hardy

I've always wanted Gafford in green. I like PJ OK too. Good value 26 year olds for Jrue.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

I don't want to trade Jrue Holiday but if that's the way they have to go to make the finances work, I wonder if a reunion in New Orleans could be on the cards. Joe Dumars is their new GM and he has been out of the loop, plus I could see him overvalue Holiday based on their needs of having a mentor for Zion and his connection to the fanbase.

Option A: Jrue Holiday and picks for Trey Murphy and Antonio Reeves. I don't really care for Reeves, it's just to make the salaries work. You could keep him as a cheap end of bench guy or re-route him elsewhere. I'm not sure why New Orleans would do this but stranger things have happened.

Option B: Jrue Holiday for Herb Jones and Kelly Olynyk. Everybody goes home, everybody's happy. Celtics shave 5 millions off their books and get two guys who can play and two smaller contracts they can use at the deadline.

Option Tank: Jrue Holiday for Dejounte Murray and picks. Murray isn't going to play next season because of his achilles so you can really stack up the losses until him and Tatum come back. The fact he can't play next season probably makes his contract much worse than Holiday so you could probably extract a pick or two (the Pels have #7 in this draft but that feels a bit rich so maybe next year's Pacers pick or one of their Bucks pick swap) .You don't actually save that much money but if Chisholm is willing to pay, you add assets, tank properly and retain some NBA talent on the roster.

[SparringPartner]

Blow It Up! Draft Flagg & Maluach, high pick next year, cap room for free agents following year

[Cricket23]

Gafford is ok, for a backup. What did he do against us in the finals?

[SparringPartner]

Blow It Up! Draft Flagg & Maluach, high pick next year, cap room for free agents following year

[celtxman]

Well we have polarizing takes on a Brown for Jalen Johnson trade with Atlanta. We have people who would never do it and others who would do it tomorrow. I would do it if available. I think Johnson is really good and could become close to the player Brown is. Assuming things are pretty equal I would trade Brown for Johnson and the expiring Capela contract before July 1. Done deal. That puts the Celtics at $200M with 4 roster spots to fill $8M below the 2nd apron. Trade Hauser (Detroit is losing Beasley for example). If you trade before July 1 for expiring his base is only $2M and I think there is a market for him with his new $10M salary. So now they're at $190M with room to sign (re-sign) Kornet and 3 others.
I trust Stevens making the right talent evaluation here. I truly understand people wanting to move on from KP. I wouldn't be hasty unless the pieces fit for the Celtics. We need to know what is wrong with him, even if we trade him later when he has reestablished value. Jrue's timeline and length of contract nake him the one to trade if they want to keep Brown. We're all pissed at Porzingis, I get it. But we might feel different about giving him away, knowing he really couldn't breathe and the doctors figure it out.

[Marvel]

Sometimes when i want a laugh i come to this thread.

[chrisab123]

Interesting trade speculation by my favorite hoops analyst. A few interesting ones thrown out there, including Jrue for Gafford and P J Washington. A wilder one was Brown for Morant.

Watch on YouTube

They like Ja. But I’m thinking they like Ja with Jaylen and Tatum not by himself while waiting for Tatum. But I don’t have a ton of insight on it. I only repeated what I had heard.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Sometimes when i want a laugh i come to this thread.

Always entertaining

[chrisab123]

I don't want to trade Jrue Holiday but if that's the way they have to go to make the finances work, I wonder if a reunion in New Orleans could be on the cards. Joe Dumars is their new GM and he has been out of the loop, plus I could see him overvalue Holiday based on their needs of having a mentor for Zion and his connection to the fanbase.

Option A: Jrue Holiday and picks for Trey Murphy and Antonio Reeves. I don't really care for Reeves, it's just to make the salaries work. You could keep him as a cheap end of bench guy or re-route him elsewhere. I'm not sure why New Orleans would do this but stranger things have happened.

Option B: Jrue Holiday for Herb Jones and Kelly Olynyk. Everybody goes home, everybody's happy. Celtics shave 5 millions off their books and get two guys who can play and two smaller contracts they can use at the deadline.

Option Tank: Jrue Holiday for Dejounte Murray and picks. Murray isn't going to play next season because of his achilles so you can really stack up the losses until him and Tatum come back. The fact he can't play next season probably makes his contract much worse than Holiday so you could probably extract a pick or two (the Pels have #7 in this draft but that feels a bit rich so maybe next year's Pacers pick or one of their Bucks pick swap) .You don't actually save that much money but if Chisholm is willing to pay, you add assets, tank properly and retain some NBA talent on the roster.

What is a proper tank? Many teams have bottomed out only to get the 5th-7th pick. I’ve also seen the terms tank city and hard tank.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Until they get below the second apron, they can only make one for one trades.

I don’t believe that’s entirely accurate.

From my understanding it’s the salary at the end of the transaction that matters. So we could do a trade of whatever provided we are under the second apron at the end of the transaction.

[Fierce1]

Until they get below the second apron, they can only make one for one trades.

I don’t believe that’s entirely accurate.

From my understanding it’s the salary at the end of the transaction that matters. So we could do a trade of whatever provided we are under the second apron at the end of the transaction.

Yes, you are correct, but that will involve other teams.

That's why we're seeing a lot of multi-team trades now.

[Patsfan1081]

I think Felger was right, as much as I hate to admit it. Fans are more interested in playing GM. Why you would want to trade JB after brining this town a title then playing with a torn meniscus this year is beyond me. No way Tatum will want to come back to a lottery team either.

[ConstableGeneva]

Until they get below the second apron, they can only make one for one trades.

I don’t believe that’s entirely accurate.

From my understanding it’s the salary at the end of the transaction that matters. So we could do a trade of whatever provided we are under the second apron at the end of the transaction.

Correct, if the resulting trade puts them under the second apron, then the second apron restrictions don't apply for that particular trade but they'd be hard-capped at the second apron for succeeding transactions.

[phincsfan]

Trades have to be multi team for the C’s to get under the 2nd apron, BUT only a few teams have room where as they won’t become hard capped during that trade.

IMO, not because I’m a C’s fan, this new apron crap was a terrible idea.

[phincsfan]

C's, Hornets and Raps trade

C's get Poetl, Okogie and #9

Raps get White, Nurkic, #28

Hornets get Barrett and #39

Bunch of upside options to take at #9

[Fierce1]

Trades have to be multi team for the C’s to get under the 2nd apron, BUT only a few teams have room where as they won’t become hard capped during that trade.

IMO, not because I’m a C’s fan, this new apron crap was a terrible idea.

It's working for the NBA.

There's parity now.

Sucks for teams like the Cs, but it somewhat levels the playing field.