2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[The Corey's]

I've been saying this whole time that THIS is the year to tank. Get the top 5 pick.

I'm not saying you take 26/27 off. I'm saying that they're not going to be championship contenders. They won't be.

Not unless you're flipping Brown for tons of depth and picks.

We already seen what Brown and Tatum look like as the top dogs without any depth. We know how that goes and they'll be in their 30s or close to it then in Tatum case.

Okay, maybe I am jumping in late, but I’m confused why you are upset by what others are saying then if you are okay with tanking this year? Sorry, I must be missing something or misread something.

What do you want the Celtics to do right now for the 2025-2026 season? You seem upset about us trading our depth but want us to tank. One is not possible without the other generally.

You have already given away key oieces fir nothing.

So might as well tank the year.

Get capspace for tatums return and a great draft pick or 2.

Basically trade brown, try to nab a future dereck white breakout type guy and draft talent and clear books.

The Celtics have to find a way to do what the Thunder did with George in grting back a young prospect and picks and to NOT do what the thunder did with Durant and lose him for nothing.
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And we have 3 legitimate pieces to work with here.

Don't be mad at me because I understand that the CBA **** over teams who did it the right way and now our financially strapped because of how they set it up. We have to find a way to find talent who are not on max deals.

I think it's almost impossible with this new CBA to have two max contracts. Between the Jays that's over $100 million alone pushing 110. Add in white? It becomes really hard to fill out the roster at that point.

Again, this is a whole different conversation if Tatum isn't hurt. But he is her and that's the card we have to deal with.

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This wasn't a dig at you. I know you understand what I'm saying. You got the right idea.

[The Corey's]

The Celtics should absolutely be looking to contend again in 2026-2027. Not sure why we are stretching to 2027-2028. Take the year off, suck, get a top 5 pick in 2026 draft, take the top 5 pick with salary filler and trade for whatever disgruntled star or high level starter (better than Porzingis or Jrue) in summer 2026 to add to Tatum, Brown, and White in summer 2026 leading into 2026-2027. This is assuming Tatum recovers as well as Durant.

Or maybe there will be a player good enough in the top 5 of 2026 draft to just add to the roster. The Warriors did this in 2020; they just made a bad pick in Wiseman. Lamelo or Haliburton would had been an amazing add to that Warriors roster. Putting theirselves in a position to even have a shot at Edwards was amazing for them and 100% the right move.

I've been saying this whole time that THIS is the year to tank. Get the top 5 pick.

I'm not saying you take 26/27 off. I'm saying that they're not going to be championship contenders. They won't be.

Not unless you're flipping Brown for tons of depth and picks.

We already seen what Brown and Tatum look like as the top dogs without any depth. We know how that goes and they'll be in their 30s or close to it then in Tatum case.

Trading Brown for youth and picks is probably the best move for now and the future. Hate to see him go but now just might be the right time.

Idk about anyone else but 13-14 was a breath of fresh air after watching Pierce and KG deteriorate before our eyes. We weren’t a good team. At all. But the games were sort of fun to watch with a new coach and roster. I think the era of Brown/Tatum might have run its course and it’d be best to operate going forward with only one super max guy.

Right. I really don't want to be in situation where we're reading Brown and Tatum in 3 seasons because they can't improve the team due to cap restraints and no serious assets to send out and then spend the following 3 seasons trying to accumulate and rebuild while waiting for the new players to age into their mid 20s when we can just start they process now.

I'd love to be competing with a new roster in 4 or 5 years from now that has a bright future than to be competing with the Jays and White in their mid 30s holding on and crashing out like the last big 3 did.

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[Windhorst] There are multiple teams in the Top 10 of the 2025 NBA Draft who are making offers to the Boston Celtics for Derrick White and Jaylen Brown.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/1lk8n1h/windhorst_there_are_multiple_teams_in_the_top_10/

[BleedGreen1989]

I truly have a gut feeling that Jaylen is getting moved.

[Gant]

Gary Washburn:

The Celtics did not want to trade Holiday or Porzingis and they fully intended to keep both for the long term before Tatum’s injury. The second apron was worth the penalty as long as the Celtics were playing into mid-June. Once Tatum was sidelined, the short-term agenda changed, and the blueprint laid out by both the Thunder and Pacers is that the recipe for success in the new CBA is youth, value contracts, and athleticism.

These are Boston’s first steps in that direction. Simons will get an opportunity to become a main offensive option for a contending team and change his reputation as an uninterested defender. And while he’ll fit into Joe Mazzulla’s system perfectly with his ability to shoot the three, especially off the dribble, he’ll have to improve defensively.

There will be plenty of motivation for Simons to flourish in the Mazzulla system. He will be playing for his next contract and to boost his reputation as a potential rising star. The Celtics will get the opportunity to adjust their offensive arsenal with Brown as the potential centerpiece.

[Fierce1]

This will be interesting if JB is still a Celtic past midnight.

[The Corey's]

Gary Washburn:

The Celtics did not want to trade Holiday or Porzingis and they fully intended to keep both for the long term before Tatum’s injury. The second apron was worth the penalty as long as the Celtics were playing into mid-June. Once Tatum was sidelined, the short-term agenda changed, and the blueprint laid out by both the Thunder and Pacers is that the recipe for success in the new CBA is youth, value contracts, and athleticism.

These are Boston’s first steps in that direction. Simons will get an opportunity to become a main offensive option for a contending team and change his reputation as an uninterested defender. And while he’ll fit into Joe Mazzulla’s system perfectly with his ability to shoot the three, especially off the dribble, he’ll have to improve defensively.

There will be plenty of motivation for Simons to flourish in the Mazzulla system. He will be playing for his next contract and to boost his reputation as a potential rising star. The Celtics will get the opportunity to adjust their offensive arsenal with Brown as the potential centerpiece.

I'll take **** bull **** for 2,000 Alex.

[playa-hater]

I still won't believe brown is traded until he is. I think they're just listening carefully at this point.. Same for white..

[watsonthedragon]

A lot of smoke about JB... Can Brad convince some team to egregiously overpay when the league looks so wide open? How many teams think they are a JB away from a Finals run?

[flintsky21]

While KP and Holiday did get us through the hump, we were contenders before they arrived, and it's largely because of the Jays. I don't think we'd be breaking up the Jays without giving them at least one more chance to compete together. White is still one of the best 3rd-piece in the league. I think it's a disservice to break them up without even finding out if they're no longer good enough to make the Celtics a contender.

[Half-Full]

The dust has not settled yet. I think it is a little premature to talk of tanking/blowing up the team. I'm waiting to see what happens in the draft. Who are we picking, if anyone. I imagine there will be a further trade/trades. When all that is resolved, we will have a better idea of what to expect next season. Brad will not trade Jaylen or D. White, unless we get a sufficient return. A big concern is our center position. While there are some decent looking bigs that are likely to be available when we draft, Queta + a rookie is not sufficient depth at that position. If we miss out on signing Kornet, what then? Excited to find out.

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[The Corey's]

I still won't believe brown is traded until he is. I think they're just listening carefully at this point.. Same for white..

You listen this summer. You execute next summer for the haul.

No friggen way brown is traded today.

White? I'll throw that at 15% chance.

[Hal14]

This will be interesting if JB is still a Celtic past midnight.

Why?

Dude has been in trade rumors for basically his entire career. He's used to it.

If he gets traded, he'll know it's because it's a business.

If he's not traded, he'll keep playing for the celtics and representing the city, doing charitable work in the city, etc.

[Fierce1]

This will be interesting if JB is still a Celtic past midnight.

Why?

Dude has been in trade rumors for basically his entire career. He's used to it.

If he gets traded, he'll know it's because it's a business.

If he's not traded, he'll keep playing for the celtics and representing the city, doing charitable work in the city, etc.

No, I'm referring to the fans who are desperate to trade JB.

[ConstableGeneva]

Come on Brad stop slacking and do something!

[The Corey's]

The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks.

[celtxman]

No.

PP is not explosive and not really a finisher on fast breaks.

It will be a 3-guard rotation, White, Simons, and PP.

Not redundant at all.

Simons is basically unguardable 1 on 1.

Yes Simons is a superior offensive player. That's why I think he could theoritically bring us a quality big.

Also, how would a PP and Simons backcourt combination look defensively?

I'd rather keep Simons, but Brad must draft a good big tonight (and there are a few options in our range), or trade for one. I'd be pissed if we go into next year with Kornet/Al/Queta at the 5.

And this is the heart of trading KP. What made it essential to trade right now? It's awesome that Bill Chisholm is hard capped. His accountants are thrilled! I'm very happy for him. As fans we are counting on the process to include getting much better at PF and C. Today we are worse.. There is certainly a grace period to get better, championship ready bigs. Is by the trade deadline fair? I distinctly remember Chisholm saying his plan was to keep winning championships. I don't need to see it today. But I will need to see it

[Hal14]

A lot of smoke about JB... Can Brad convince some team to egregiously overpay when the league looks so wide open? How many teams think they are a JB away from a Finals run?

It might not even be a finals run. It might just be turning their franchise around. There's a lot of teams who have just kind of been floundering around in mediocrity for awhile. They might try to get aggressive to give their fans some hope. Or winning more games, selling more tickets/jerseys to try and save their job as GM.

Who knows..

But I could see a team like milwaukee, miami, san antonio, sacramento, phoenix or minnesota getting aggressive to try and land someone like JB.

Giannis has told bucks that he'll give them one more offseason to improve the team to keep him with the franchise..Dame is hurt, they lost middleton, lopez is old..they might try for JB.

Miami tries for every star. And they lost Butler, didn't get KD..I could see them getting aggressive..

Lakers could possibly put a package together including Reaves and basically everyone else on their team besides Luka and LeBron..

Question is what package are these teams offering? It's gotta be BIG for Brad to pull the trigger.

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