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Post#421 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:59 am

GoGreen wrote:Danny Ainge gave us this hot garbage. I don't expect him to get us out of it.


Do you think there's any chance that Ainge could at least build a team that, say, went to the ECF 3 years out of 4?
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Post#422 » by Ernest » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:19 pm

Wait we lost a game, IK thought this place would be on fire.
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Post#423 » by OldCeltics » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:15 am

13 years, and we have a .500 team. Thanks Danny.

Danny would be out of here by now if McHale didn't gift him KG. That championship was great, but gave an illusion that Danny is competent.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#424 » by GoGreen » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:52 am

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GoGreen wrote:Danny Ainge gave us this hot garbage. I don't expect him to get us out of it.


Do you think there's any chance that Ainge could at least build a team that, say, went to the ECF 3 years out of 4?


Let me know when this team is able to compete for a title instead of failing to advance to the finals in what has been a weak Eastern Conference over the past several years.

Remember that Cs team with 'toine and Pierce that made the ecf? Yea, they weren't very good. Just like this roster. Not winning anything.
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Post#425 » by Ernest » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:06 am

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GoGreen wrote:Danny Ainge gave us this hot garbage. I don't expect him to get us out of it.


Do you think there's any chance that Ainge could at least build a team that, say, went to the ECF 3 years out of 4?


Let me know when this team is able to compete for a title instead of failing to advance to the finals in what has been a weak Eastern Conference over the past several years.

Remember that Cs team with 'toine and Pierce that made the ecf? Yea, they weren't very good. Just like this roster. Not winning anything.


Except PP was a great player and Antoine was a bum. Ainge saw that and shipped out Walker. With Brown and Tatum you have two players who are not bums.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#426 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:06 am

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GoGreen wrote:Danny Ainge gave us this hot garbage. I don't expect him to get us out of it.


Do you think there's any chance that Ainge could at least build a team that, say, went to the ECF 3 years out of 4?


Let me know when this team is able to compete for a title instead of failing to advance to the finals in what has been a weak Eastern Conference over the past several years.

Remember that Cs team with 'toine and Pierce that made the ecf? Yea, they weren't very good. Just like this roster. Not winning anything.


The Paul/Toine team, IIRC, made the ECF once.

Brad has made it three times.

Once we had a lead in Q4 of Game 7.
Once we were somewhat more competitive than the Paul/Toine team was.
Once our best player broke down, and we just got a participation trophy.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#427 » by Fierce1 » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:23 am

Celtic fans usually have higher standards than fans of other NBA teams.

I hate to say it but there are a lot of spoiled Celtic fans.

Other NBA teams, especially small market teams, will be happy making the conference finals once in 5 years.

Charlotte gave Hayward 120m just for a shot at making the playoffs.

The Celtics have made it to the east finals in 3 out for 4 seasons and the coach needs to be fired?

It's not like the Celts have the premiere superstars of the NBA.

I will also want Brad fired if he has a team composed of Lebron and AD or Steph, Klay, and KD and the team doesn't make it to the finals.

But with what the Celts have now and the last few seasons, Celts are lucky to have made it that far in the playoffs.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#428 » by grantlongforpresident » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:42 am

Fierce1 wrote:Celtic fans usually have higher standards than fans of other NBA teams.

I hate to say it but there are a lot of spoiled Celtic fans.

Other NBA teams, especially small market teams, will be happy making the conference finals once in 5 years.

Charlotte gave Hayward 120m just for a shot at making the playoffs.

The Celtics have made it to the east finals in 3 out for 4 seasons and the coach needs to be fired?

It's not like the Celts have the premiere superstars of the NBA.

I will also want Brad fired if he has a team composed of Lebron and AD or Steph, Klay, and KD and the team doesn't make it to the finals.

But with what the Celts have now and the last few seasons, Celts are lucky to have made it that far in the playoffs.


I think the word lucky is taking it a bit far. Ainge executed the playbook of trading away aging talent for picks (sacrificing wins) and then drafting and developing a bunch of players. Fans tolerate rebuilds but expect a payout and we’ve taken a step back this year. To your point, the Celtics community got a little spoiled with the team overachieving a bit early on. However, that doesn’t change that we should be frustrated with a .500 record.

I’m pretty sure we will be comfortably better than .500 by year end but I think it’s pretty clear we aren’t that close to contending. I think that’s a disappointment vs the high end of most people’s expectations going into the year.
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Re: Fire Ainge: Thanks Danny, but it's time to go 

Post#429 » by GoGreen » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:40 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Celtic fans usually have higher standards than fans of other NBA teams.

I hate to say it but there are a lot of spoiled Celtic fans.

Other NBA teams, especially small market teams, will be happy making the conference finals once in 5 years.

Charlotte gave Hayward 120m just for a shot at making the playoffs.

The Celtics have made it to the east finals in 3 out for 4 seasons and the coach needs to be fired?

It's not like the Celts have the premiere superstars of the NBA.

I will also want Brad fired if he has a team composed of Lebron and AD or Steph, Klay, and KD and the team doesn't make it to the finals.

But with what the Celts have now and the last few seasons, Celts are lucky to have made it that far in the playoffs.


I think the word lucky is taking it a bit far. Ainge executed the playbook of trading away aging talent for picks (sacrificing wins) and then drafting and developing a bunch of players. Fans tolerate rebuilds but expect a payout and we’ve taken a step back this year. To your point, the Celtics community got a little spoiled with the team overachieving a bit early on. However, that doesn’t change that we should be frustrated with a .500 record.

I’m pretty sure we will be comfortably better than .500 by year end but I think it’s pretty clear we aren’t that close to contending. I think that’s a disappointment vs the high end of most people’s expectations going into the year.


Yes, this puts it well. How long are we going to have to wait? How patient do we have to be? Too many excuses for Danny. He's had his chance to construct a great roster. His assets are dwindling and the high picks are gone. It hasn't amounted to what we all hoped it would.
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Post#430 » by bbd24 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:27 am

grantlongforpresident wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Celtic fans usually have higher standards than fans of other NBA teams.

I hate to say it but there are a lot of spoiled Celtic fans.

Other NBA teams, especially small market teams, will be happy making the conference finals once in 5 years.

Charlotte gave Hayward 120m just for a shot at making the playoffs.

The Celtics have made it to the east finals in 3 out for 4 seasons and the coach needs to be fired?

It's not like the Celts have the premiere superstars of the NBA.

I will also want Brad fired if he has a team composed of Lebron and AD or Steph, Klay, and KD and the team doesn't make it to the finals.

But with what the Celts have now and the last few seasons, Celts are lucky to have made it that far in the playoffs.


I think the word lucky is taking it a bit far. Ainge executed the playbook of trading away aging talent for picks (sacrificing wins) and then drafting and developing a bunch of players. Fans tolerate rebuilds but expect a payout and we’ve taken a step back this year. To your point, the Celtics community got a little spoiled with the team overachieving a bit early on. However, that doesn’t change that we should be frustrated with a .500 record.

I’m pretty sure we will be comfortably better than .500 by year end but I think it’s pretty clear we aren’t that close to contending. I think that’s a disappointment vs the high end of most people’s expectations going into the year.


That might be true, but you all think Ainge is at fault ? How ? This roster is stacked, with everyone almost under 25.

It’s simple. You’re missing the top defensive player in the league, and 1 of your three all stars can’t even play back to back games yet. Oh, and I didn’t stutter, that’s THREE all stars on one team. That’s pretty darn good and probably the reason you’ve been to the Eastern Finals 3 out of 4 years.

At some point, you have to blame the players with the win/loss column. Tatum & Brown just made the all star team and you could make a legit case that they haven’t even been at their best this season. That’s a scary thought.

We are .500 and have three legit all stars. When has a team with that much talent only been .500 ?

That’s not the GM’s fault, it’s the coaching and players. I want to see your stars moving the basketball instead of pounding it on the floor the entire shot clock. When they actually figure out how to play together, I think nobody in the league will want to play Boston in a 7 game set. Scary.
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Post#431 » by bbd24 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:35 am

GoGreen wrote:
grantlongforpresident wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Celtic fans usually have higher standards than fans of other NBA teams.

I hate to say it but there are a lot of spoiled Celtic fans.

Other NBA teams, especially small market teams, will be happy making the conference finals once in 5 years.

Charlotte gave Hayward 120m just for a shot at making the playoffs.

The Celtics have made it to the east finals in 3 out for 4 seasons and the coach needs to be fired?

It's not like the Celts have the premiere superstars of the NBA.

I will also want Brad fired if he has a team composed of Lebron and AD or Steph, Klay, and KD and the team doesn't make it to the finals.

But with what the Celts have now and the last few seasons, Celts are lucky to have made it that far in the playoffs.


I think the word lucky is taking it a bit far. Ainge executed the playbook of trading away aging talent for picks (sacrificing wins) and then drafting and developing a bunch of players. Fans tolerate rebuilds but expect a payout and we’ve taken a step back this year. To your point, the Celtics community got a little spoiled with the team overachieving a bit early on. However, that doesn’t change that we should be frustrated with a .500 record.

I’m pretty sure we will be comfortably better than .500 by year end but I think it’s pretty clear we aren’t that close to contending. I think that’s a disappointment vs the high end of most people’s expectations going into the year.


Yes, this puts it well. How long are we going to have to wait? How patient do we have to be? Too many excuses for Danny. He's had his chance to construct a great roster. His assets are dwindling and the high picks are gone. It hasn't amounted to what we all hoped it would.


Assets dwindling ? How ? You have 3 legit all stars, 2 of them extremely young. One of the best young centers in the league in Robert Williams, and how did you get Daniel Theis for free ?

Pritchard and Nesmith were great young picks in the draft, and even talent like Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters have value. How old is Marcus Smart, the prototypical glue guy? Again, yet another huge asset.it’s everywhere on the roster. Romeo Langford, if/when healthy, is no slouch either.

This roster is filled with assets. Add in the trade exception and it could get even better. Setup to compete for a long time.

Now, you just have to find the right rotation, which Brad is still trying to figure out. It’s simple. When it does get figured out, nobody is going to want to go against this team in a 7-game series.
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Post#432 » by grantlongforpresident » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:35 am

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GoGreen wrote:
grantlongforpresident wrote:
I think the word lucky is taking it a bit far. Ainge executed the playbook of trading away aging talent for picks (sacrificing wins) and then drafting and developing a bunch of players. Fans tolerate rebuilds but expect a payout and we’ve taken a step back this year. To your point, the Celtics community got a little spoiled with the team overachieving a bit early on. However, that doesn’t change that we should be frustrated with a .500 record.

I’m pretty sure we will be comfortably better than .500 by year end but I think it’s pretty clear we aren’t that close to contending. I think that’s a disappointment vs the high end of most people’s expectations going into the year.


Yes, this puts it well. How long are we going to have to wait? How patient do we have to be? Too many excuses for Danny. He's had his chance to construct a great roster. His assets are dwindling and the high picks are gone. It hasn't amounted to what we all hoped it would.


Assets dwindling ? How ? You have 3 legit all stars, 2 of them extremely young. One of the best young centers in the league in Robert Williams, and how did you get Daniel Theis for free ?

Pritchard and Nesmith were great young picks in the draft, and even talent like Carsen Edwards and Tremont Waters have value. How old is Marcus Smart, the prototypical glue guy? Again, yet another huge asset.it’s everywhere on the roster. Romeo Langford, if/when healthy, is no slouch either.

This roster is filled with assets. Add in the trade exception and it could get even better. Setup to compete for a long time.

Now, you just have to find the right rotation, which Brad is still trying to figure out. It’s simple. When it does get figured out, nobody is going to want to go against this team in a 7-game series.


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Post#433 » by OldCeltics » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:16 am

Its time to move on green teamers.

Danny is clueless about how to build a team. He got lucky McHale gifted us KG. Other than that, multiple missed all-stars in draft. Let multiple free agents go for nothing. Builds a barn of undersized guards, no post players, no interior defense. Horrible free agent pick ups.

Go Danny, get out of here.
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Post#434 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:09 pm

OldCeltics wrote:13 years, and we have a .500 team. Thanks Danny.

Danny would be out of here by now if McHale didn't gift him KG. That championship was great, but gave an illusion that Danny is competent.

Ainge should be blasted for this team but who cares that McHale gifted him KG? AD was gifted to the Lakers. **** happens in the NBA
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Post#435 » by Parliament10 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:13 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
OldCeltics wrote:13 years, and we have a .500 team. Thanks Danny.

Danny would be out of here by now if McHale didn't gift him KG. That championship was great, but gave an illusion that Danny is competent.

Ainge should be blasted for this team but who cares that McHale gifted him KG? AD was gifted to the Lakers. **** happens in the NBA

OldCeltics,

Ainge is a Better than Average GM.
Who would we get, to replace him?

And when would that new Mystery person Start???
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Post#436 » by OldCeltics » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:15 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
OldCeltics wrote:13 years, and we have a .500 team. Thanks Danny.

Danny would be out of here by now if McHale didn't gift him KG. That championship was great, but gave an illusion that Danny is competent.

Ainge should be blasted for this team but who cares that McHale gifted him KG? AD was gifted to the Lakers. **** happens in the NBA

OldCeltics,

Ainge is a Better than Average GM.
Who would we get, to replace him?

And when would that new Mystery person Start???


I'm willing to be the GM of Celtics. I could get us a championship within 3 years.
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Post#437 » by Parliament10 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:19 pm

OldCeltics wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Ainge should be blasted for this team but who cares that McHale gifted him KG? AD was gifted to the Lakers. **** happens in the NBA

OldCeltics,

Ainge is a Better than Average GM.
Who would we get, to replace him?

And when would that new Mystery person Start???


I'm willing to be the GM of Celtics. I could get us a championship within 3 years.

Can you do it, This Year? -- Or next, at the latest.
Cause we are not in Start-over Mode.
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Post#438 » by OldCeltics » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:50 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
OldCeltics wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:OldCeltics,

Ainge is a Better than Average GM.
Who would we get, to replace him?

And when would that new Mystery person Start???


I'm willing to be the GM of Celtics. I could get us a championship within 3 years.

Can you do it, This Year? -- Or next, at the latest.
Cause we are not in Start-over Mode.


All jokes aside, my plan would be simple:

1. Trade anyone besides Tatum/Brown for a post player, that can score in the post, and defend the interior.
2. Robert Williams gets 30 min/game as starting Center or backup.
3. Tacko fall plays 20 min/game.
4. Tristan and Teague get traded for value, or waived.
5. Lock down Payton long term as a core shooter.
6. As much as i love Walker, either trade him or sit him till 100% healthy. He can't be volume shooting 1-22. Or have talk with him to reduce shots and be pass first.
7. No more undersized guards. Celtics need to become a multi-dimensional team with drive attacks, movement, post play, inside-out plays, etc.
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Post#439 » by JHTruth » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:06 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
OldCeltics wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:OldCeltics,

Ainge is a Better than Average GM.
Who would we get, to replace him?

And when would that new Mystery person Start???


I'm willing to be the GM of Celtics. I could get us a championship within 3 years.

Can you do it, This Year? -- Or next, at the latest.
Cause we are not in Start-over Mode.


I don't think we're in "start over" mode. I just think it's time to make the youth movement official. Kyrie, Horford, and Hayward left because they saw that their time had passed here. This is now the Tatum-Brown era, for better or worse.

Celtics need to be sellers at the deadline. Bring in more young talent and picks. Move every one of Theis, Kemba, Teague, and Thompson you can. Target guys like Lonzo Ball. Young guys looking for a home. Play the youngsters max minutes. This team isn't winning a dang thing this year.
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Post#440 » by sprash9802 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:49 pm

Gary Washburn RIPPING Ainge and the FO on WEEI. Essentially said the front office needs fresh faces and new voices and better talent evaluators. Pretty much tearing into Ainge for his draft blunders like Langford, Williams, Edwards etc... About DAMN time!
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