Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread

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https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/

If Portland would do it then sign me up Tatum, Brown and Lillard would be fantastic.

Top 6 would be Lillard, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Fournier and Thompson. You can fill in the rest with young players and vet min

Nope. Too much for another small, over-30 PG whose deal will peak over $50M.

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https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/

What a terrible trade.

Lillard makes too much money and plays too much ISO ball.

Hopefully next Celtics coach has a better plan than isoing to death to win a title in the next 5 years.

I'd rather keep Kemba until the trade deadline and move Smart/TT to make room in the draft/free agency than giving 5 first round picks for a very good player who hasn't won anything with his heroics.

Pass.

Terrible trade? That is a highway robbery, we would be a finals team for sure. Dame plays too much ISO ball because he doesn't have Jaylen and Jayson on his team, oh and maybe because that's the most effective play the sorry team can muster up?
Dame would take this team on another level and unlock an extra tier in our offense. But he does make a lot of money and leaves us very small. While almost 31, he's in his prime and his game should age smooth with his elite shooting and playmaking ability.
I don't think he's the perfect trade target, but to call this a "terrible trade" lol you do it every time if you can keep the Jays together.

Very unlikely to be a finals team with that.

[moonie_mcgee]

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/06/11/nba-rumors-portand-trail-blazers-boston-celtics-trade-damian-lillard/2/

If Portland would do it then sign me up Tatum, Brown and Lillard would be fantastic.

Top 6 would be Lillard, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Fournier and Thompson. You can fill in the rest with young players and vet min

Nope. Too much for another small, over-30 PG whose deal will peak over $50M.

That's a Danny Ainge doubling down on desperation trade. We need to get through the Bucks and Sixers and that top 6 is small small. The Bucks are playing Middleton at the 2 - and he's longer than Brown. We need to upgrade the front court desperately not a 6 foot pg at 30 for 40 50 million. We're good in the back court. Let's get front court players who can defend rebound and shoot.

[moonie_mcgee]

Lillard feels like the wrong star to put all the chips in. Could easily see us in the same place we are with Kemba now in 2 years.

When we signed Kemba he was coming off a 25+ PPG season (and was younger than Lillard now). I'd be very wary of any undersigned, aging PG right now. With one injury, could see Lillard in the same spot as Kemba is now in a few years @ $50M per year. It would end any hope of the Jays winning a title given the size of that contract

And Kemba smoked Kyrie in Boston. Can't make the same mistake. Great players but not what we need.

[moonie_mcgee]

On paper it might seem like a great team with Dame, Brown and Tatum. And it may be. But I see some major obstacles. One ball and 3 highly need the ball type of players. Staggering the rotation would help some I guess. Won't say I wouldn't do it, But definitely not as high on that trade as others.

Yup and even the idea of staggering the rotation is proof number one that it's a bad idea. Staggering is trying to hide flaws but you can't bc no one is fooled. The Js need to be on the court together as a plan for the foreseeable future if they're to bev the future.

[djFan71]

On paper it might seem like a great team with Dame, Brown and Tatum. And it may be. But I see some major obstacles. One ball and 3 highly need the ball type of players. Staggering the rotation would help some I guess. Won't say I wouldn't do it, But definitely not as high on that trade as others.

Yup and even the idea of staggering the rotation is proof number one that it's a bad idea. Staggering is trying to hide flaws but you can't bc no one is fooled. The Js need to be on the court together as a plan for the foreseeable future if they're to bev the future.

By that logic the Nets shouldn't have traded for Harden. If you can get Dame, JB, JT, you fill in the gaps later. That team would be crazy. You're giving up bad salary, perpetually injured dudes, Nesmith and late picks. Sure the last one unprotected could hurt in 2025. But you get 1 of the clutchest dudes out there to make a real run for the next 3 years.

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On paper it might seem like a great team with Dame, Brown and Tatum. And it may be. But I see some major obstacles. One ball and 3 highly need the ball type of players. Staggering the rotation would help some I guess. Won't say I wouldn't do it, But definitely not as high on that trade as others.

Yup and even the idea of staggering the rotation is proof number one that it's a bad idea. Staggering is trying to hide flaws but you can't bc no one is fooled. The Js need to be on the court together as a plan for the foreseeable future if they're to bev the future.

By that logic the Nets shouldn't have traded for Harden. If you can get Dame, JB, JT, you fill in the gaps later. That team would be crazy. You're giving up bad salary, perpetually injured dudes, Nesmith and late picks. Sure the last one unprotected could hurt in 2025. But you get 1 of the clutchest dudes out there to make a real run for the next 3 years.

As with everything in life, the tradeoff/cost of Dame determines whether he's a fit for this roster. For the right price, it's a no-brainer, but my guess is the cost would be too high.

[JediMasterRevan]

On paper it might seem like a great team with Dame, Brown and Tatum. And it may be. But I see some major obstacles. One ball and 3 highly need the ball type of players. Staggering the rotation would help some I guess. Won't say I wouldn't do it, But definitely not as high on that trade as others.

Yup and even the idea of staggering the rotation is proof number one that it's a bad idea. Staggering is trying to hide flaws but you can't bc no one is fooled. The Js need to be on the court together as a plan for the foreseeable future if they're to bev the future.

By that logic the Nets shouldn't have traded for Harden. If you can get Dame, JB, JT, you fill in the gaps later. That team would be crazy. You're giving up bad salary, perpetually injured dudes, Nesmith and late picks. Sure the last one unprotected could hurt in 2025. But you get 1 of the clutchest dudes out there to make a real run for the next 3 years.

This offseason has loads of centers that would fit the bill perfectly. On top of that the market is only so deep for them. Will be able to load up on them with the TPEs/MLE etc.
Ibaka
Zeller
Theis
Noel
Kanter
Holmes
Kaminsky
McGee
WCS
Collins
Biyombo
Howard
Allen
Whiteside
Bradley
Hernangomez
Len
Hartenstien
Giles
Dieng
Drummond
Wagner
Bell

Power Forwards
Johnson
Olynik
Millsap
Harrell
Tucker
Green
Bjelica
Lyles
Markannen
Meli
Portis
Wilson
Morris
Griffin

Loads up guys who can give excellent backup minutes in the front court.

[djFan71]

Yup and even the idea of staggering the rotation is proof number one that it's a bad idea. Staggering is trying to hide flaws but you can't bc no one is fooled. The Js need to be on the court together as a plan for the foreseeable future if they're to bev the future.

By that logic the Nets shouldn't have traded for Harden. If you can get Dame, JB, JT, you fill in the gaps later. That team would be crazy. You're giving up bad salary, perpetually injured dudes, Nesmith and late picks. Sure the last one unprotected could hurt in 2025. But you get 1 of the clutchest dudes out there to make a real run for the next 3 years.

As with everything in life, the tradeoff/cost of Dame determines whether he's a fit for this roster. For the right price, it's a no-brainer, but my guess is the cost would be too high.

Oh, in real life, I agree. it takes JB. But in that proposed article it was only Kemba, Rob, Romeo, Nesmith, picks for days. Done.

[RickyDizzle]

Random thought while watching Jazz v Clippers:

If Romeo Lanford can give you 90% of what Terrance Mann does on offense and 90% of what Royce O'Neal gives on defense, he'll be a hell of a role player but this hybrid version of these two guys giving most of each of their strengths, seems pretty realistic still for next year or at least the year after for Romeo.

[Parliament10]

Copied from the Kemba-Horford thread.

Proposed Roster, 2021-22:
Starters: Smart - J. Brown - Fournier - Tatum - R.Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - Nesmith - Langford - Horford - M. Brown
Reserves: ????? - ????? - Parker/G.Williams - Kornet
Two-Ways: Rookies

Needs to be off Roster:
Walker
Thompson
Edwards
Ojeleye
Waters
Fall?

[daveisceltics]

Any chance The C's go after Lowry now?

[snowman]

Copied from the Kemba-Horford thread.

Proposed Roster, 2021-22:
Starters: Smart - J. Brown - Fournier - Tatum - R.Williams
Rotation: Pritchard - Nesmith - Langford - Horford - M. Brown
Reserves: ????? - ????? - Parker/G.Williams - Kornet
Two-Ways: Rookies

Needs to be off Roster:
Walker
Thompson
Edwards
Ojeleye
Waters
Fall?

100 & agree !!!
Starters: Smart, Fournier, J. Brown, Tatum, Timelord.
2nd team: Pritchard, Langford, Nesmith, Horford, M. Brown
3rd team: Vet PG, Vet SG, G. Will, Parker, Kornet
As far as third team goes if /when we trade Thompson we will get something back. It needs to be a vet PG or SG. Sign whichever we don't get back from trade, as a FA, or use one or part of one of our TPE's. We need vets on the 3rd team as support / role players. I think Waters and Fall will be let go and our 2-way players will be Madar (our 2nd round from last year) and our pick 45 this year. I agree that now that Kemba is gone, Thompson, Edwards, Semi, Waters and Fall need to go.
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[SmartWentCrazy]

Not sure if fake:

Read on Twitter

We need a culture and reputation reset so i hope its true. Giving him Carsen’s role will go a long way IMO

[BK_2020]

oh god it's true. Now we trade for Crowder and sign Sullinger off of Dairy Queen.

[Celtics_Champs]

^^^ It’s probably fake, but I’ve said for years reset that juju. Agree with you.

[SmartWentCrazy]

^^^ It’s probably fake, but I’ve said for years reset that juju. Agree with you.

Carsen sucks. IT would organizationally help us so much more than keeping Carsen around

[Upperclass]

Rozier should be headed back as well. Undo all of Danny's ridiculousness

[Justin33]

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[lon3lytoaster]

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“Someone” lol.. this free agent class is not very good, unfortunately. Olynyk and McDermott might be the only two guys I look at for the MLE. On paper, Schroeder?

Really bad class.